The new new battle of Trafalgar!

[cambridgeshire canary 6,799]

Just the Sun being the Sun- Did give me a laugh. Does anyone really buy this paper? Really?

[cambridgeshire canary 6,799]

Christ even the Daily Mail's at it now..

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

Better not go to Plymouth. Might get press ganged by Charles Laughton

[TheGunnShow 6,002]

I'm just going to tenderly lob this parody of the French national anthem in for a laugh.
 

 

[ricardo 7,401]

Struggling Macron taunts le 'Rosbifs', while battling Boris gives the V sign to the Frogs.

Plays well in both countries if all a bit silly😀

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

1 minute ago, ricardo said:

Struggling Macron taunts le 'Rosbifs', while battling Boris gives the V sign to the Frogs.

Plays well in both countries if all a bit silly😀

I've seen more anger at Eaton Park boating lake🏴‍☠️

[ricardo 7,401]

Pointless getting upset over a few disgruntled PSG supporters.😉

[Surfer 1,547]

What’s that? There’s an election today you say? Heaven forbid anyone pulls a public relations stunt to garner votes and deflect from scandal, 

[Mr Apples 1,331]

6 minutes ago, Surfer said:

What’s that? There’s an election today you say? Heaven forbid anyone pulls a public relations stunt to garner votes and deflect from scandal, 

Surely no-one would be gullible enough to fall for a cheap and obvious stunt (again and again and again and again and again and again). 🤔🤣

Apples

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

We've got our country back.

Except the Channel Islands.

[Van wink 2,994]

1 hour ago, Surfer said:

What’s that? There’s an election today you say? Heaven forbid anyone pulls a public relations stunt to garner votes and deflect from scandal, 

Dont look a gift horse in the mouth, as it has been said. One would hope that political nouse exists on both sides of the political football game, although to be frank atm I fear that one team is still debating the merits of playing the game in open toe sandals while the other side is out there with their boots on.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

3 minutes ago, Van wink said:

Dont look a gift horse in the mouth, as it has been said. One would hope that political nouse exists on both sides of the political football game, although to be frank atm I fear that one team is still debating the merits of playing the game in open toe sandals while the other side is out there with their boots on.

I think you will find Boris is Rugby (part from giving his blessing to the ESL).

In that code you have to pass backward. Sometimes to Victorian times😁

Edited May 6, 2021 by keelansgrandad

[Van wink 2,994]

3 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

I think you will find Boris is Rugby (part from giving his blessing to the ESL).

In that code you have to pass backward. Sometimes to Victorian times😁

Kicking off now

"As the French boats descended upon the harbour this morning, one local appeared to make a personal stand against the flotilla. A member of the Jersey Militia re-enactment group was seen firing a musket in the air from Elizabeth Castle as the ships gathered in the sea nearby."😀

 

[Van wink 2,994]

4 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

I think you will find Boris is Rugby (part from giving his blessing to the ESL).

In that code you have to pass backward. Sometimes to Victorian times😁

I know he likes tackling little boys, but that's another story best left to the likes of Horsey to discuss😉

[Creative Midfielder 2,003]

7 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

We've got our country back.

Except the Channel Islands.

..........and Northern Ireland, ...........and Scotland,.............and perhaps even Wales.

But the Brexiteers have got England back which of course is all they were ever interested in or cared about.

[Herman 9,825]

43 minutes ago, Van wink said:

Kicking off now

"As the French boats descended upon the harbour this morning, one local appeared to make a personal stand against the flotilla. A member of the Jersey Militia re-enactment group was seen firing a musket in the air from Elizabeth Castle as the ships gathered in the sea nearby."😀

 

Thanks to tory cuts that is the extent of the British army. 

[Well b back 3,280]

Will the Jersey fishermen who backed the French viewpoint be tried for treason and then hung drawn and quartered by Farage and Johnson. 
 

[Van wink 2,994]

14 minutes ago, Herman said:

Thanks to tory cuts that is the extent of the British army. 

and he missed

[ricardo 7,401]

A good explanation of what this is actually about.

The previous treaty (which took 11 years to negotiate between Jersey & France) had a requirement that annually French authorities would submit to Jersey details of their catch. In 20 years they never did.

The current treaty - negotiated between the UK & EU (neither France nor Jersey directly involved) requires that French fishermen can go on catching the same amount of fish as they have historically. Because the treaty was agreed so late there has been a 4 month grace period free for all where the French have caught as much as they like - two years worth of scollops in 4 months for example. They also stopped Jersey fishermen landing their catches in France. To get a licence to carry on fishing, French fishermen have to submit details of their historical catches - which many of them have not, either because they didn't understand the requirement, or because they simply never kept the record, or deliberately low-balled their claimed catch. So when the licences were issued on Friday - reflecting their reported historical catches - many of them were completely snookered.

In the French Parliament a minister observed that as France supplies power to Jersey they have some leverage, to which one Whitehall source remarked "at least the ****'s kept the lights on". Jersey can keep its own lights on in any case.
Macron professed "surprise" which suggests either he or his officials didn't understand what the EU had signed on their behalf.

French fishermen announced a blockade of St Helier - so Boris offered to send two boats to keep an eye on things, which Jersey gratefully accepted.

About 80 boats arrived off St Helier this morning - some sailed in, then sailed out again, delaying a departure, but not stopping it. The RN hung back by about a mile. Two French Navy boats stayed just outside territorial waters. The French fishermen are returning to port, having had their demo.

Looking ahead - if they haven't kept records of what they've caught - or have lied about how much they did catch they are still in trouble.

This is classic "Brexit Red Tape" - just the boot is on the other foot and they don't like it.

[horsefly 4,315]

1 hour ago, Van wink said:

I know he likes tackling little boys, but that's another story best left to the likes of Horsey to discuss😉

Jesus! you really are so damn childish.

[Herman 9,825]

 

[ricardo 7,401]

4 minutes ago, Herman said:

 

Alarm over, I hear that Drake has gone back to his game of bowls on Plymouth Hoe🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

10 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Alarm over, I hear that Drake has gone back to his game of bowls on Plymouth Hoe🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Apparently it was boules🇳🇱

[Herman 9,825]

 

[nevermind, neoliberalism has had it 159]

The Tories are using gunboats to exacerbate a very delicate balance in the channel islands, in a bit to disgrace themselves some more with French and channel island fishermen, their families and friends.

You had all the jingoism and innuendo, now have a read of some historic agreements and how these were arrived at in the past, hear it from a 'Shannock' offspring who was brought up here in Norfolk and has deep roots in the local fishing community. Forget Farrage's bluster and false promises, he never done a stroke of work on the EU fisheries committees, a Corp. of London city boy who has no idea of how fishing has been handed down for generations and how delicate some of these agreements are.

If you are really interested in real journalism and facts, or want  to hear more about this, as a Norfolk person interested in local history, get involved and talk about your own memories about Norfolk fishermen, here is your chance. Enjoy.

BTW. Craig will be sentenced today for something he has not done.

 

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2021/05/channel-islands-fisheries-and-abuse-by-tory-jingoism/comment-page-1/#comment-988285

[Canary Wundaboy 1,360]

1 hour ago, nevermind, neoliberalism has had it said:

The Tories are using gunboats to exacerbate a very delicate balance in the channel islands, in a bit to disgrace themselves some more with French and channel island fishermen, their families and friends.

That viewpoint holds no water when:

• The French threatened to cut off Jersey's electricity and therefore escalated the situation from "here's a debate about fishing" to "we're going to cut off utilities that the islanders rely on"
• We didn't send any naval vessels pre-emptively, they were in response to a blockade of the Jersey port
• The Jersey authorities were offered said naval vessels and gratefully accepted them
• The naval vessels simply hung back and observed and took zero aggressive actions towards the fishermen

But of course, any perfectly legitimate moves to protect and defend the Channel islands and their people is "exacerbating the situation", rather than "doing what we pay our bloody taxes for".

[PurpleCanary 5,580]

12 hours ago, Canary Wundaboy said:

That viewpoint holds no water when:

• The French threatened to cut off Jersey's electricity and therefore escalated the situation from "here's a debate about fishing" to "we're going to cut off utilities that the islanders rely on"
• We didn't send any naval vessels pre-emptively, they were in response to a blockade of the Jersey port
• The Jersey authorities were offered said naval vessels and gratefully accepted them
• The naval vessels simply hung back and observed and took zero aggressive actions towards the fishermen

But of course, any perfectly legitimate moves to protect and defend the Channel islands and their people is "exacerbating the situation", rather than "doing what we pay our bloody taxes for".

If the people on the Channel Islands paid their way in taxes you wouldn’t have to pay yours to defend them...🤓

[Creative Midfielder 2,003]

11 hours ago, PurpleCanary said:

If the people on the Channel Islands paid their way in taxes you wouldn’t have to pay yours to defend them...🤓

Very true, and of course if the UK government actually started honouring and implementing the treaty obligations that they've recently entered into and stopped trying to break international law whenever it suits them then we wouldn't be facing any threats (other than our own Government's incompetence) anyway.

[Rock The Boat 1,332]

3 hours ago, Creative Midfielder said:

Very true, and of course if the UK government actually started honouring and implementing the treaty obligations that they've recently entered into and stopped trying to break international law whenever it suits them then we wouldn't be facing any threats (other than our own Government's incompetence) anyway.

All it requires is the French fishermen to provide the correct documents and they get issued with licences. 

We dont accept corruption

[PurpleCanary 5,580]

3 hours ago, Creative Midfielder said:

Very true, and of course if the UK government actually started honouring and implementing the treaty obligations that they've recently entered into and stopped trying to break international law whenever it suits them then we wouldn't be facing any threats (other than our own Government's incompetence) anyway.

Indeed, but I don't think for a moment Johnson intended to honour the treaty, or at the very least never intended to honour the treaty if he later found out he didn't like the implications and the effects of this provision or that.