Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
NeymarSmith

A word on the Barnsley's manager

Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)

Derby and Sheff Wed could also be in trouble; ultimately Wigan are in administration so that’s the penalty.

Edited by Branston Pickle

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Rolf Harris said:

Believe Wigan going to court regarding relegation. So wouldn't celebrate too soon.

They surely can't change it now.  That would be too cruel and totaly immoral. Wigan will have to have the rules applied as they have for other clubs have done in the same position. Harsh, but it would be even harsher on Barnsley now. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 hours ago, lake district canary said:

They surely can't change it now.  That would be too cruel and totaly immoral. Wigan will have to have the rules applied as they have for other clubs have done in the same position. Harsh, but it would be even harsher on Barnsley now. 

They can change it - that’s how appeals work. 

The situation is a huge mess, but that is the EFL for you. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 hours ago, lake district canary said:

They surely can't change it now.  That would be too cruel and totaly immoral. Wigan will have to have the rules applied as they have for other clubs have done in the same position. Harsh, but it would be even harsher on Barnsley now. 

Think it is harsher on Wigan caught up in a scam. EFL need to sort out their rules on owner vetting.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's been a rule for a good time now.

Administration brings points deduction, at the end of the season it will be applied to relegate the club, alternatively if the deduction won't relegate the club, they start the following season on minus points. 

It's happened to other clubs previously, everyone knows the rules. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

24 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

They can change it - that’s how appeals work. 

The situation is a huge mess, but that is the EFL for you. 

Surely Barnsley would take legal action if they suddenly got relegated?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

They can change it - that’s how appeals work. 

The situation is a huge mess, but that is the EFL for you. 

Could the administrators take the EFL to court for allowing this change of ownership as something very dodgy is obviously afoot there.and the new owners weren't fit and proper people (unlike the previous ones obviotsly🙄)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Number9 said:

It's been a rule for a good time now.

Administration brings points deduction, at the end of the season it will be applied to relegate the club, alternatively if the deduction won't relegate the club, they start the following season on minus points. 

It's happened to other clubs previously, everyone knows the rules. 

Does the rule apply when an owner sells the club to themselves for a betting scam to go through.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, cornish sam said:

Could the administrators take the EFL to court for allowing this change of ownership as something very dodgy is obviously afoot there.and the new owners weren't fit and proper people (unlike the previous ones obviotsly🙄)

The fit and proper person test is just whether someone has unspent criminal convictions for fraud, not declared bankrupt and hasn’t been banned from being a company director. The person who bought Wigan didn’t fall into any of those categories so past the test. 

The fit and proper person test isn’t a judgment on someone’s intention or if they are actually competent it is a simple legal test. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

The fit and proper person test is just whether someone has unspent criminal convictions for fraud, not declared bankrupt and hasn’t been banned from being a company director. The person who bought Wigan didn’t fall into any of those categories so past the test. 

The fit and proper person test isn’t a judgment on someone’s intention or if they are actually competent it is a simple legal test. 

Indeed, which is why I would want any potential owner of Norwich City to submit themselves to a much more rigorous independent assessment of their financial standing and business history and competence. Not being willing to do that would be a strong indication against them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

The fit and proper person test is just whether someone has unspent criminal convictions for fraud, not declared bankrupt and hasn’t been banned from being a company director. The person who bought Wigan didn’t fall into any of those categories so past the test. 

The fit and proper person test isn’t a judgment on someone’s intention or if they are actually competent it is a simple legal test. 

So how are we expecting the Saudi's takeover of Newcastle to unfold? Would other serious crimes not come into consideration?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
36 minutes ago, Rolf Harris said:

Does the rule apply when an owner sells the club to themselves for a betting scam to go through.

I'm not saying the current rules are fit for purpose, but they are and have been the rules.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

For any club (outside the Prem of course) to go into administration is clearly a desperate situation. It is more than likely that relegation looms and in L2 it could mean dropping out completely.

Football has never been squeaky clean and I don't think it ever will. There is just too much temptation for people to get involved who have no real place in much at all apart from a prison cell.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Struber is also a fantastic coach and if Wigan's appeal is unsuccessful then Barnsley could well be an outside shot for the top 6 next season.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
32 minutes ago, DraytonBoy said:

IMO it would be so wrong if Barnsley were relegated at the end of the month.

Yeah but tbf, harsh on Wigan last night wasn't it. Especially how well they played come end of season

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, repman said:

Struber is also a fantastic coach and if Wigan's appeal is unsuccessful then Barnsley could well be an outside shot for the top 6 next season.

I've not seen his football, but thought his passion was top class.

Barnsley must have a good eye, as their previous coach Daniel strendel played good football. Have you seen much of strubers football this season @repman ?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
28 minutes ago, NeymarSmith said:

Yeah but tbf, harsh on Wigan last night wasn't it. Especially how well they played come end of season

Totally agree, the whole thing stinks and is **** for both clubs as neither know for certain which league they'll be playing in next season and that's without the inquiries ongoing into the Derby and Sheff Weds misdemeanors.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, NeymarSmith said:

I've not seen his football, but thought his passion was top class.

Barnsley must have a good eye, as their previous coach Daniel strendel played good football. Have you seen much of strubers football this season @repman ?

The football is similar, if not even more intense than it was under Stendel. Struber has better pedigree though, coming through the coaching ranks at RB Salzburg. The most remarkable thing about Barnsley is the fact their side is incredibly young, and coming into this season was also basically untested at this level. The squad had 135 C'ship appearances between them, with 128 belonging to one player.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 23/07/2020 at 08:38, Bethnal Yellow and Green said:

The fit and proper person test is just whether someone has unspent criminal convictions for fraud, not declared bankrupt and hasn’t been banned from being a company director. The person who bought Wigan didn’t fall into any of those categories so past the test. 

The fit and proper person test isn’t a judgment on someone’s intention or if they are actually competent it is a simple legal test. 

There must be more to it than that, because John Ryan failed for not being able to prove he had adequate funding.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

18 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said:

There must be more to it than that, because John Ryan failed for not being able to prove he had adequate funding.

That is a different test. Before they even get to the ‘Fit and Proper’ person bit you’ve got to prove you have the money. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 23/07/2020 at 08:52, PurpleCanary said:

Indeed, which is why I would want any potential owner of Norwich City to submit themselves to a much more rigorous independent assessment of their financial standing and business history and competence. Not being willing to do that would be a strong indication against them.

Something along the lines of:

 

”Are you stinking rich?”

”Yes”

”Are you Chinese?”

”Yes”

”That’s fine”

 

?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, Nuff Said said:

Something along the lines of:

 

”Are you stinking rich?”

”Yes”

”Are you Chinese?”

”Yes”

”That’s fine”

 

?

Or

”Are you local?”

”Yes”

”Any idea how to run a football club?”

”God no”

”Do you believe in the model?”

”Absolutely”

“Ok, welcome aboard Tom”

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...