FCC 94 Posted June 25, 2020 A bit left field this, but if we had plans to increase capacity would now be a good time to get the bulldozers in? No additional loss of income as the ground is empty anyway, that is presuming there is a plan ready to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted June 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, KiwiScot said: Finance? Sell Max Aarons, use the money to rebuild City Stand. Good shout OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Il Pirata 249 Posted June 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, FCC said: A bit left field this, but if we had plans to increase capacity would now be a good time to get the bulldozers in? No additional loss of income as the ground is empty anyway, that is presuming there is a plan ready to go. Projects of such scale take many months and even years of planning, consenting, and agreement will all relevant stakeholders. That's without considering the finance structure for the project. You can't impulsively decide to have a new football stand, like you might a new car, or a new pair of jeans, just because the time appears right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,538 Posted June 25, 2020 Well I hope the new stands individual seat separation is a minimum of 2 metres.....in preparation for the second wave...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,672 Posted June 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mello Yello said: Well I hope the new stands individual seat separation is a minimum of 2 metres.....in preparation for the second wave...... They’ll only be Mexican waves next season when we take the Championship by storm. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted June 25, 2020 Looks lush... https://meisstudio.com/carrow-road/9nzjzjy4abls9px9dgr7k3xb58vx5b Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Il Pirata said: Projects of such scale take many months and even years of planning, consenting, and agreement will all relevant stakeholders. That's without considering the finance structure for the project. You can't impulsively decide to have a new football stand, like you might a new car, or a new pair of jeans, just because the time appears right. Its not like the club has done no planning though is it, can be pretty sure the plans are already drawn up because we recently purchased a strip of land behind the City stand that we needed for this project. Would require planning permission which could take as little as 8 weeks, to give somebody the contract to construct it and for financing to be put in place. Not sure that would have to take years. Edited June 25, 2020 by TeemuVanBasten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonncfc 28 Posted June 25, 2020 49 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Its not like the club has done no planning though is it, can be pretty sure the plans are already drawn up because we recently purchased a strip of land behind the City stand that we needed for this project. Would require planning permission which could take as little as 8 weeks, to give somebody the contract to construct it and for financing to be put in place. Not sure that would have to take years. Wasn’t the whole of Carrow Road built in 3 months? OK, there was no such thing as H&S back then but even so, these things can be done quickly if appropriate penalty clauses are built in to contracts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,529 Posted June 25, 2020 I've always been extremely pro-stand, but making a £30m+ investment in this environment would be incredibly dangerous. Had Coronavirus not happened and/or we had survived in the Premier League, then yes, go for it. But right now it's far too risky. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonncfc 28 Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man said: I've always been extremely pro-stand, but making a £30m+ investment in this environment would be incredibly dangerous. Had Coronavirus not happened and/or we had survived in the Premier League, then yes, go for it. But right now it's far too risky. The City Stand has always been a bit of an embarrassment - a League 2 stand in an otherwise Premier League ground, and because of Covid it's exactly the right time to do something about it. Players will want to leave following relegation so money in the coffers, and it's unlikely that crowds will be allowed back for quite some time so supporters wouldn't have to be evicted from their seats during the work. Yes, with the uncertain future in a Covid world it would be a financial risk, but all of football is a financial risk anyway and it's something we've been putting off for too long. That said, if the owners aren't prepared to take a risk on the playing side, they almost certainly won't want to "speculate to accumulate" on the ground. After all, we are little old Norwich, aren't we, and we mustn't have ideas above our station. Edited June 25, 2020 by Jonncfc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kick it off 2,061 Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Would require planning permission which could take as little as 8 weeks Not necessarily. Can be pushed through in days if Delia is willing to hold her nose and bung Jenrick some cash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,328 Posted June 25, 2020 Just now, kick it off said: Not necessarily. Can be pushed through in days if Delia is willing to hold her nose and bung Jenrick some cash. There's a minimum 21 day consultation period for 60 year old virgins to write long letters of objection. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 4,529 Posted June 25, 2020 38 minutes ago, Jonncfc said: The City Stand has always been a bit of an embarrassment - a League 2 stand in an otherwise Premier League ground, and because of Covid it's exactly the right time to do something about it. Players will want to leave following relegation so money in the coffers, and it's unlikely that crowds will be allowed back for quite some time so supporters wouldn't have to be evicted from their seats during the work. Yes, with the uncertain future in a Covid world it would be a financial risk, but all of football is a financial risk anyway and it's something we've been putting off for too long. That said, if the owners aren't prepared to take a risk on the playing side, they almost certainly won't want to "speculate to accumulate" on the ground. After all, we are little old Norwich, aren't we, and we mustn't have ideas above our station. Obviously this is a huge reason for pushing on with the work now, but considering we don't know how much of the bottom has fallen out of the transfer market then we may not be able to get top dollar for our bright young things. In normal circumstances, we could've raised £50m plus for any two out of Buendia, Cantwell, Aarons and Godfrey in order to fund the project, but right now nobody knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 5,756 Posted June 25, 2020 The club has also missed a trick here. They could have 'accidentally' burnt down the Holiday Inn while nobody was in there, claimed on the insurance and used the payout to build a nice corner infill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,672 Posted June 25, 2020 Get it up ASAP. Players will be sold and a new stand to compliment the rest of of the stadium can be part of the project. Would be refreshing under this regime to leave something lasting and improve their legacy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted June 25, 2020 3 hours ago, FCC said: A bit left field this, but if we had plans to increase capacity would now be a good time to get the bulldozers in? No additional loss of income as the ground is empty anyway, that is presuming there is a plan ready to go. That was because three of the stands were no more than a heap of soil with terracing laid on them I would venture that things would be just that bit more complicated now 😜 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,159 Posted June 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, Feedthewolf said: The club has also missed a trick here. They could have 'accidentally' burnt down the Holiday Inn while nobody was in there, claimed on the insurance and used the payout to build a nice corner infill. The problem is wolfie we don't own the Holiday Inn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,672 Posted June 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said: The problem is wolfie we don't own the Holiday Inn. Who decided to put that monstrosity up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 5,756 Posted June 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said: The problem is wolfie we don't own the Holiday Inn. Yes, I'm aware of that. Surprisingly, I wasn't actually suggesting this as a realistic option... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted June 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Who decided to put that monstrosity up? Holiday Inn, I would imagine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Midlands Yellow said: Who decided to put that monstrosity up? I think Lakey was involved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 545 Posted June 25, 2020 You really think our owners will spend dosh on an upgraded City Stand? You’ll be saying we will stay up and win the FA Cup next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,699 Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) On 25/06/2020 at 15:00, Il Pirata said: Projects of such scale take many months and even years of planning, consenting, and agreement will all relevant stakeholders. That's without considering the finance structure for the project. You can't impulsively decide to have a new football stand, like you might a new car, or a new pair of jeans, just because the time appears right. You could just invite Robert Jenrick round for dinner. Edited June 26, 2020 by canarydan23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
