essex canary 516 Posted April 25, 2020 Picking up on the Club Statement today, are we a listening club or an 'ignore the noise' club? Apparently the players shouldn't be expected to declare how much they are giving back but the club was happy to declare how much was paid to them in promotion bonus. Apparently match day income is £1.5 million per home match. Really! The accounts suggest gate money of around £0.5 million. I know BK claims to do very well on commercial income but surely not quite that well? If it is that good why not get some of those commercial sponsors to invest in club infrastructure? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terminally Yellow 2,495 Posted April 25, 2020 Did this really need a new thread? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,489 Posted April 25, 2020 With season tickets one would assume ticket prices average out at around £30, so £800k. Then you only have to sell a few pints and you're at the 1.5 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, KeiranShikari said: With season tickets one would assume ticket prices average out at around £30, so £800k. Then you only have to sell a few pints and you're at the 1.5 million. What.... 11 pints for every person in the ground? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,675 Posted April 25, 2020 The shortfall is probably made up by scampi sales... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Terminally Yellow said: Did this really need a new thread? Your last thread got 2 replies mate. Just saying. Edited April 25, 2020 by TeemuVanBasten Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terminally Yellow 2,495 Posted April 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Your last thread got 2 replies mate. Just saying. Hi Teemu, How is giving up the season ticket going for you? Doesn't look at all like an internet flounce. Just saying. But please don't leave the forum. I look forward to reading your next attention seeking nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeemuVanBasten 3,327 Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Terminally Yellow said: Hi Teemu, How is giving up the season ticket going for you? Doesn't look at all like an internet flounce. Just saying. But please don't leave the forum. I look forward to reading your next attention seeking nonsense. Hi Terminally Good to see you have anointed yourself as the thread police, arbiter of what is thread worthy and what isn't. I heard there are lots of opportunities in China for people like you, have you considered emigrating? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terminally Yellow 2,495 Posted April 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Hi Terminally Good to see you have anointed yourself as the thread police, arbiter of what is thread worthy and what isn't. I heard there are lots of opportunities in China for people like you, have you considered emigrating? Wow, I knew you'd be quick but I didn't think you'd be this quick with the attention seeking nonsense I predicted! Perhaps as you disagree with me you might want to start a new thread proclaiming to all how unhappy you are about it and what you're going to give up in protest in a grand gesture to once again look important on the internet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 516 Posted April 25, 2020 Kieran. Your maths doesn't allow for youth and OAP concessions. Match day figure is closer to £500,000. That leaves about 10 pints per person per game including the kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,050 Posted April 25, 2020 2 hours ago, essex canary said: Picking up on the Club Statement today, are we a listening club or an 'ignore the noise' club? Apparently the players shouldn't be expected to declare how much they are giving back but the club was happy to declare how much was paid to them in promotion bonus. Apparently match day income is £1.5 million per home match. Really! The accounts suggest gate money of around £0.5 million. I know BK claims to do very well on commercial income but surely not quite that well? If it is that good why not get some of those commercial sponsors to invest in club infrastructure? Have you run out of things to paint during the lockdown?........... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,826 Posted April 26, 2020 11 hours ago, essex canary said: Kieran. Your maths doesn't allow for youth and OAP concessions. Match day figure is closer to £500,000. That leaves about 10 pints per person per game including the kids. You did not include hospitality income with meals and the club shop or programme sales. Car parking at County hall and the list goes on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,562 Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) It would be interesting to see how much is taken around the ground on match days. If you assume that some people will spend £10 - £20 on booze, that plenty will buy food around the various club outlets, the hospitality packages, the restaurants, the Gunn Club etc etc, I bet the amount swiftly gets up to over a million including casual ticket sales. Edited April 26, 2020 by lake district canary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 516 Posted April 26, 2020 I can well believe that gross takings are £1 million maybe a little more. What I don't believe is that when costs of supplies are taken into account that there is as much as £1.5 million profit for the club in this each game. I am suggesting they have a tendency to round up the numbers to emphasise whichever point they are seeking to make. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Foggo 1,122 Posted April 26, 2020 1 minute ago, essex canary said: I can well believe that gross takings are £1 million maybe a little more. What I don't believe is that when costs of supplies are taken into account that there is as much as £1.5 million profit for the club in this each game. I am suggesting they have a tendency to round up the numbers to emphasise whichever point they are seeking to make. The accounts are either wrong or £1.5m is wrong. You decide... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,675 Posted April 26, 2020 It's impossible to do that because we don't have the relevant accounts Kenny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real Buh 3,493 Posted April 26, 2020 Much larger businesses than us have used the government furlough and we are the only club in the premier league that isn’t, frankly, bankrolled by criminal money so I don’t think we should feel bad about this. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,355 Posted April 26, 2020 13 hours ago, Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB said: Have you run out of things to paint during the lockdown?........... Not quite, as hes trying to paint the Club in a bad light. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
essex canary 516 Posted April 26, 2020 Consulting last years accounts suggests that non broadcast income for the club equals around £1 million per game. £24 million generated over 23 home league games plus whatever cup games. That figure will include non matchday income relating to some items that are also now lost this year plus some items that will not have been lost for example mail order club shop purchases and Carrow Road office income charged to Broadland Housing etc. The £1 million per game will have increased a little in the Premier League but up to £1.5 million? The only picture I am trying to paint is an honest one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,826 Posted April 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, essex canary said: The only picture I am trying to paint is an distorted one. There i have fixed it for you essex. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,826 Posted April 26, 2020 2 hours ago, essex canary said: What I don't believe is that when costs of supplies are taken into account that there is as much as £1.5 million profit for the club in this each game. I think you need to read again what was actually said because income as what was actually stated is not profit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,820 Posted April 26, 2020 47 minutes ago, The Real Buh said: Much larger businesses than us have used the government furlough and we are the only club in the premier league that isn’t, frankly, bankrolled by criminal money so I don’t think we should feel bad about this. 👍👍👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All the Germans 1,085 Posted April 26, 2020 5 hours ago, essex canary said: I am suggesting they have a tendency to round up the numbers to emphasise whichever point they are seeking to make. *shock* business person uses numbers in different ways to get their desired point across. If that genuinely surprises you then I am shocked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,907 Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) £1.5m divided by 27,000 works out at just over £55 per person. Assuming the cost of an average ticket (both casual and season tickets) works out at somewhere between £25-30 per game and is included in that figure, £55 seems slightly high but not beyond the realms of possibility. Edited April 26, 2020 by Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Dutchman 744 Posted April 26, 2020 19 hours ago, Terminally Yellow said: Did this really need a new thread? Do half the threads on here? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Man 3,907 Posted April 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Flying Dutchman said: Do half the threads on here? Realistically, we have only needed five for the last month, as every thread has been related to one of the following: Coronavirus Furlough How will the season finish? Bill's political masterclass The fury of TVB 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying Dutchman 744 Posted April 26, 2020 19 hours ago, TeemuVanBasten said: Your last thread got 2 replies mate. Just saying. And your last thread aimed at 'exposing' a poster ended up with nobody really biting, mostly reminiscing about ex-posters, questioning who YOUR alternative used to be and then a couple having a pop at you for your season ticket abandonment and general persona portrayed on the forums. Not the time for top trumps me thinks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,675 Posted April 26, 2020 Does it really say match day income is 1.5m or does it say the cost to our club would be 1.5m per match? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 4,826 Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, nutty nigel said: Does it really say match day income is 1.5m or does it say the cost to our club would be 1.5m per match? According to essex £1.5m is all profit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wcorkcanary 4,355 Posted April 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said: According to essex £1.5m is all profit. Wouldnt have him as my accountant then.Id be paying more tax than I earn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites