Leedscanary 339 Posted June 19, 2019 Wish they’d employ a decent commentator. Jonathan Pierce is awful and very patronising. And he goes “full Robot Wars” mode at the slightest bit of excitement. ****. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leedscanary 339 Posted June 19, 2019 The insult was b ellend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Canary1 91 Posted June 19, 2019 Great goal, well worked, top finish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted June 19, 2019 Scotland from 3-0 up to 3-2 and now face a penalty, which is saved😀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted June 19, 2019 But VAR now check for keeper movement... to be retaken. 3-3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Van wink said: Scotland from 3-0 up to 3-2 and now face a penalty, which is saved😀 Re- taken and scored. YES Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted June 19, 2019 There will be a few missed buses with VAR next season, this has gone on for ages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted June 19, 2019 If any of the knockout stages goes to pens it could easily take an hour extra. And if you are looking to get the 17:05 train out of Norwich at next season's home games you've got no chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,060 Posted June 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, Van wink said: There will be a few missed buses with VAR next season, this has gone on for ages. Or not. How the flying f**k was there only 5 minutes injury time?! There were 8 minutes between the foul and the retaken penalty going in, never mind the 4 goals and substitutions that took place. 5 minutes?! You could've trebled that and got a feasible chunk of injury time. That's sketchy as, something proper fishy there. I was looking forward to a fire and brimstone end with two teams for whom a draw did nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CANARYKING 638 Posted June 19, 2019 God help us if this is how VAR will work next season, that referee didn’t have a clue, should have been at least another five minutes added. Goalkeepers will never ever save a penalty now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted June 19, 2019 Yep, I dont think anyone believed the game was over when she blew the whistle! It would appear that there is no consistently applied system for adding VAR time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,408 Posted June 19, 2019 Take the timing away from the referee like in Rugby Union. The miked up ref shouts time on and time off, so all know, no hiding place. Someone in the VAR office can keep the time. That way, proper account for VAR, substitutions and goal celebrations. For far too long the ball in action percentage has been far too low at 50%ish, because no ref properly accounts for time. Ball in action percentages should be 60 to 70% really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
splendidrush 700 Posted June 20, 2019 Can't wait for the season to start, we're going to get Royally screwed, you heard it here first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,531 Posted June 20, 2019 10 hours ago, CANARYKING said: God help us if this is how VAR will work next season......... Goalkeepers will never ever save a penalty now On the contrary, it will keep goalkeepers honest and you will get genuine world class saves as they have to wait until the ball is kicked. It should improve their focus as they will have to learn to react to what is happening rather than trying to put the opponent off by bouncing around/moving about off the line etc. Suspect the art of the penalty save will improve as a result of this as the goalkeepers get used to the "new world". There will probably be more goals scored rather than saved than there are at the moment, but then penalties are supposed to favour the attacking side......and penalties should be genuine as a result of VAR too, so perhaps we will see a little more honesty in the game from now on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,558 Posted June 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, lake district canary said: On the contrary, it will keep goalkeepers honest and you will get genuine world class saves as they have to wait until the ball is kicked. It should improve their focus as they will have to learn to react to what is happening rather than trying to put the opponent off by bouncing around/moving about off the line etc. Suspect the art of the penalty save will improve as a result of this as the goalkeepers get used to the "new world". There will probably be more goals scored rather than saved than there are at the moment, but then penalties are supposed to favour the attacking side......and penalties should be genuine as a result of VAR too, so perhaps we will see a little more honesty in the game from now on. One of the main things we will see is attacking players deliberately kicking the ball into defenders hands. Mane did it in the Champions’ League final and clubs will see it is an easy way to get a penalty - which are currently a 75% chance of a goal - but the new keeper rules will become an 80% chance. Hope everyone likes penalties, because we will be seeing a lot of them next season, for and against. Norwich might need to find someone who can actually score them now. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Bethnal Yellow and Green said: One of the main things we will see is attacking players deliberately kicking the ball into defenders hands. Mane did it in the Champions’ League final and clubs will see it is an easy way to get a penalty - which are currently a 75% chance of a goal - but the new keeper rules will become an 80% chance. Hope everyone likes penalties, because we will be seeing a lot of them next season, for and against. Norwich might need to find someone who can actually score them now. The new rules for handball are a joke. I keep thinking back to the one given against us at Wigan. No way should it have been a pen when honestly trying to block the shot and it hit Godfreys leg first. That’s the kind of decision VAR should be overturning as there’s absolutely no intent to play the ball with hand. But no, they’ll be the ones if not given on field, will be reviewed and then a pen awarded. As said, a season defined by penalties coming up... Edited June 20, 2019 by Fiery Zac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,562 Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Fiery Zac said: The new rules for handball are a joke. I keep thinking back to the one given against us at Wigan. No way should it have been a pen when honestly trying to block the shot and it hit Godfreys leg first. That’s the kind of decision VAR should be overturning as there’s absolutely no intent to play the ball with hand. But no, they’ll be the ones if not given on field, will be reviewed and then a pen awarded. As said, a season defined by penalties coming up... This may be wrong but i have an idea that for next season if the ball is deflected onto the arm that won't (or shouldn't!) be given as a penalty. I think after the Wigan game Farke was told this, and made a sarcastic comment about being a bit late to help us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Canary1 91 Posted June 20, 2019 Thought the US second goal should of been chalked off, offside player clearly affects the passage of play. Oh the Joy's of VAR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted June 23, 2019 VAR being used quickly and to overturn a wrong decision. This is what it’s needed for, simple black and white decisions. An obvious mistake sorted out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted June 23, 2019 Wow this is entertaining. Cameroon lost it completely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted June 23, 2019 It’s harsh but they’re correct decisions, not sure what the fuss from them is about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,459 Posted June 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Fiery Zac said: Wow this is entertaining. Cameroon lost it completely It’s the menopause coming in early, I’m surrounded by menopausal women 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,408 Posted June 23, 2019 Jaysus, when will Millie Bright complete a pass? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,459 Posted June 23, 2019 Jonathan Pearce “ how costly were those periods ? “ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted June 23, 2019 VAR still needs sorting out. For offsides it works. For virtually everything else it’s subjective and therefore open to debate. Maybe a number of challenges system like Cricket and Tennis should be brought in. This game showed what can happen when the ref loses control. Cameroon were asking for referrals to VAR constantly. Also the effect on Cameroon led to the ref bottling out of decisions that should have been made. A pen and a red not given that surely most people agree should have been. Subjective yes but all the guidelines in the rules of the game show the wrong decisions were made in those incidents. This game was about the ref but that could easily become Marriner, Oliver or Moss losing control and the PL becoming a farce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van wink 2,994 Posted June 23, 2019 At least they added the VAR time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted June 23, 2019 "Steph Houghton doesn't go down easily" says Pearce. I thought it was all a right shambles. Didn't really think it was a back pass. Thought the VAR decisions were mixed so not 100% and then one they should have referred on Parris was ignored and produced just a yellow. The ref got two VAR decisions totally wrong so how is it working? Too many England players cannot pass it consistently and Houghton just runs a round at the back doing very little and leaving to the others and just sweeps up and the pundits eulogise. Bright can't pass but she does jump and tackle. Parris only beats her woman now and again and gives the ball away too much. If it wasn't for Bronze and Scott we wouldn't be where we are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiery Zac 1,066 Posted June 23, 2019 That’s the problem with VAR, it’s brilliant with black and white decisions but it cannot be blamed for subjective decisions. The foul on Kirby in the box should’ve been a pen, why wasn’t it? The ref will say the ball had gone, however that should be irrelevant. The foul on Houghton should’ve been a red, why wasn’t it? I have no defence for that decision other than the ref wanted to just end the game and get out of the stadium (and tournament) alive. VAR will just replay what’s happened. If there’s a poor ref officiating or having a bad day, there’ll still be some bad decisions and ultimately, results. However because technology is now being used, the fallout will be greater 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, FenwayFrank said: Jonathan Pearce “ how costly were those periods ? “ JP absolutely ruining the England games. That aside a hugely entertaining tournament. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Pants 4,234 Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) There aint too much quality on show between France and Brazil at the moment. Surely it must get better. Edited June 23, 2019 by Capt. Pants Share this post Link to post Share on other sites