horsefly 4,300 Posted March 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Well b back That's good news for the EU. It looks like they are getting theĀ vaccine roll out in order, at lastĀ Good to see you saying something positive (if qualified) about the EU. Perhaps you would like to educate yourself further about the EU response to Covid vaccine procurement and roll out by reading the following: https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-travel-eu/coronavirus-response/public-health/coronavirus-vaccines-strategy_en Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 12, 2021 40 minutes ago, horsefly said: Good to see you saying something positive (if qualified) about the EU. Perhaps you would like to educate yourself further about the EU response to Covid vaccine procurement and roll out by reading the following: https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-travel-eu/coronavirus-response/public-health/coronavirus-vaccines-strategy_en very good, it's about what they plan to do, about 2 month too late ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,300 Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: very good, it's about what they plan to do, about 2 month too late ! You obviously haven't read it then. Why am I not surprised!!! Edited March 12, 2021 by horsefly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, horsefly said: You obviously haven't read it then. Why am I not surprised!!! I've read it and corrected your spelling it's still too late ! Edited March 12, 2021 by SwindonCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: very good, it's about what they plan to do, about 2 month too late ! 54 days is nearly two months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,300 Posted March 12, 2021 3 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: I've read it and corrected your spelling it's still too late ! Buffoon! (or is that "baffoon"). You clearly didn't read it or you would have seen the dates onĀ which many of the aspects of policy wereĀ implemented. The EU paid upfront for 300Ā million doses of the AZ vaccine in August; sadly AZ did not meet their promises. The following showsĀ the state of play on August 16th: "The European Commission has placed its first advance order for a coronavirus vaccine, snapping up 300 million doses of AstraZenecaās ChAdOx1 candidate developed by the University of Oxford, with an option on another 100 million. Ā ChAdOx1 ā which is in large-scale phase 2/3 trials ā wasĀ licensedĀ by AZ in April and renamed AZD1222, and should be ready for first deliveries before the end of the year. It will be provided on a no-profit basis while the pandemic is ongoing. The EU says its advance purchase order will finance part of the upfront costs of developing the vaccine. The order comes after the Commission put agreements in place for the supply of two other vaccines ā from Johnson & Johnson and Sanofi/GlaxoSmithKline ā that will be activated if the shots prove their worth in clinical trials. Those deals cover 200 million doses of J&Jās Ad26.COV2.S ā with an option on another 200 million ā and 300 million doses of the Sanofi/GSK candidate. Meanwhile, the EC is also talking to Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna and CureVac about access to their COVID-19 shots." https://pharmaphorum.com/news/eu-places-firm-order-for-az-oxford-unis-chadox1-covid-19-vaccine/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nevermind, neoliberalism has had it 159 Posted March 12, 2021 20 hours ago, BigFish said: Good news, but 3000 jobs is an exageration.......maybe 750. Why do they make this up? Question is what will the tax discrepancies with companies manufacturing alternative energy structures outside outside free ports create? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 12, 2021 And it looks like every report says 3000 jobsĀ Major new windfarm port announced on Teesside with 3,000Web results Ā Ā Offshore wind industry announces targets to employ 3,000 ... www.renewableuk.comĀ āŗ news āŗ Offshore-wind-industr... Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā German wind turbine maker Enercon to cut 3,000 jobs | Clean ... www.cleanenergywire.orgĀ āŗ news āŗ german-wind-turbi... Ā Ā 11 Nov 2019 āĀ GermanĀ wind turbineĀ maker Enercon has announced it will cut up toĀ 3,000 jobs, saying the federal government's energy policy has led to aĀ ... Ā Ā Vestas to cut 3,000 jobs at wind turbine plants | Financial Times www.ft.comĀ āŗ content Ā Ā 26 Oct 2010 āĀ Up toĀ 3000 jobsĀ are to be cut at the world's biggestĀ windĀ power company, Vestas, in a sign of continuing uncertainty in the renewableĀ energyĀ ... Ā Ā GE in talks to build wind turbines in UK's north-east | Financial ... www.ft.comĀ āŗ content Ā Ā 19 Nov 2020 āĀ SomeĀ 3000 jobsĀ set to be created to supply giant offshoreĀ wind farm. Ā Ā Wind Turbine Industry Leader Vestas Cuts 3,000 Jobs ... www.industryweek.comĀ āŗ companies-executives āŗ article Ā Ā Danish company Vestas said on Oct. 26 that it would cutĀ 3,000 jobs, mainly in Denmark, because of slow growth in Europe. "In 2011, the European marketĀ ... Ā Ā Wind turbine giant Vestas cuts 3,000 jobs - BBC News www.bbc.comĀ āŗ news āŗ business-11625339 Ā Ā 26 Oct 2010 āĀ Vestas, the world's largestĀ wind turbineĀ maker, is planning majorĀ jobĀ cuts after reporting falling profits. Ā Ā Thrive and Bristol Energy agree wind power deal for almost ... www.bristol-energy.co.ukĀ āŗ thrive-and-bristol-energy-a... Ā Ā Thrive Renewables and Bristol Energy have today unveiled an agreement for ... enough to power almostĀ 3,000Ā homes, from two onshoreĀ wind farmsĀ in Suffolk ... From localĀ jobĀ creation to staff volunteer days, carbon reduction activities andĀ ... Ā Ā Wind turbine giant Vestas cuts 3,000 jobs - BBC News www.bbc.co.ukĀ āŗ news āŗ business-11625339 Ā Ā 26 Oct 2010 āĀ Vestas, the world's largestĀ wind turbineĀ maker, has announced plans to cutĀ 3,000 jobsĀ because of weak demand, around 15% of its globalĀ ... Ā Ā 3,000+ Wind Turbine Engineer jobs in United Kingdom (220 ... uk.linkedin.comĀ āŗ jobs āŗ wind-turbine-engineer-jobs-ryed... Ā Ā I have a new contract opportunity for a PrincipalĀ Wind TurbineĀ Generator Engineer to join a UK EPC project office for a mega project in ... 3 weeks ago Apply Now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted March 12, 2021 Surprised or not surprised that there is no comment from the usual suspects that exports are down at least 50% to the EU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 12, 2021 we don't need the EU ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,765 Posted March 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: Surprised or not surprised that there is no comment from the usual suspects that exports are down at least 50% to the EU. 5 odd billion in the first month, lost, because people could not be bothered with facts.Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,162 Posted March 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: And it looks like every report says 3000 jobsĀ Ā Wind turbine giant Vestas cuts 3,000 jobs - BBC News www.bbc.co.ukĀ āŗ news āŗ business-11625339 Ā Ā 26 Oct 2010 āĀ Vestas, the world's largestĀ wind turbineĀ maker, has announced plans to cutĀ 3,000 jobsĀ because of weak demand, around 15% of its globalĀ ... Ā Ā Ā So, in the middle of a load of links about creating 3,000 jobs (most reports say it's 750 actual jobs and some more in the supply chain) our resident simpleton has posted a link about 3,000 jobs BEING CUT from a wind (possibly British wind) turbine maker. Ā He just posts any old sh!t he can find and doesn't read any of it.Ā š¤£ Ā Ā 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted March 12, 2021 22 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: we don't need the EU ! Of course not. Cameroon is taking up the 47% of exports. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said: So, in the middle of a load of links about creating 3,000 jobs (most reports say it's 750 actual jobs and some more in the supply chain) our resident simpleton has posted a link about 3,000 jobs BEING CUT from a wind (possibly British wind) turbine maker. Ā He just posts any old sh!t he can find and doesn't read any of it.Ā š¤£ Ā Ā ok one link was wrong but the rest are saying a total ofĀ 3,000 jobs, none are saying just 750Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: ok one link was wrong but the rest are saying a total ofĀ 3,000 jobs, none are saying just 750Ā Or in the real world 30 seconds on DuckDuckGo gives me........ New Teeside wind turbine factory to create 750 jobs Renewable energy: Power giant to bring 750 jobs to Teesside with offshore turbine factory New factory to manufacture wind turbine blades to bring 750 jobs to Teesside New Teeside wind turbine factory set to create 750 jobs Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 750 DIRECT JOBS THE REST ARE SUPPORTĀ Edited March 12, 2021 by SwindonCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,765 Posted March 12, 2021 Thanks to Brexit a lot of people at Honda Swindon are looking for a job. Maybe they could apply to Teeside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted March 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: 750 DIRECT JOBS THE REST ARE SUPPORTĀ No my simple friend, the rest is THE TOTAL TARGET of jobs in the Teeside free port. Nothing in this announcement adds 2250 jobs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted March 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Herman said: Thanks to Brexit a lot of people at Honda Swindon are looking for a job. Maybe they could apply to Teeside. But @SwindonCanary tells us that was nothing to do with Brexit. The CEO of Honda was mistaken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, Herman said: Thanks to Brexit a lot of people at Honda Swindon are looking for a job. Maybe they could apply to Teeside. I 've explained again and again Honda leaving had nothing to do with BrexitĀ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, BigFish said: But @SwindonCanary tells us that was nothing to do with Brexit. The CEO of Honda was mistaken. the CEO OF HONDA never said such a thing try finding itĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,300 Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: we don't need the EU ! Utterly retarded. It remains our main trading partner responsible for nearly 50% of business. It is essential to our economic survival you moron. Without it we would go bust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted March 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: I 've explained again and again Honda leaving had nothing to do with BrexitĀ So you admit that exports to the EU (47% of our total exports go there) diminishing by 50% is a result of Brexit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: the CEO OF HONDA never said such a thing try finding itĀ Could our resident liar be lying ...... yet again ? Honda Motor Europeās government affairs manager, Patrick Keating "Keating predicted that Brexit could interrupt crucial ājust in timeā delivery of 2m parts a day, 20% of which come from Europe and which allow smooth operation of the companyās supply chain. Brexit also raised the prospect of increased customs controls and paperwork, he said, warning that suppliers might have to fill out 60,000 customs declaration forms a year. He also pointed out that 20% of staff at Swindon were EU nationals and expressed concern about regulatory divergence that could force the company to carry out two differing sets of tests on vehicles.'' Keating said Hondaās requirements included tariff-free barriers access to the EUās free-trade agreements with other countries access to talent and the ability to move staff from one country to another a clear plan on regulations and a predictable Brexit process with a meaningful transition period https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/21/honda-european-chief-outlined-no-deal-brexit-concerns-in-2018 Once it was obvious those requirements could not be met, then it was only a matter of time before Honda pulled out. Just as most other car manufacturers will when the lifespan if their plant runs out.Ā Actions we are already seeing. Locate a factory in the EU and materials, staff and the finished product can be easily moved from country to country. Contrast that with all te barriers and red tape the UK has now brought in, and it is a no brainer why the UK is no longer attractive, or commercially viable. - Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted March 12, 2021 On 10/02/2021 at 12:07, PurpleCanary said: My question is this. Can anyone point to one case where Swindon, confronted with absolute-proof rebuttal evidence of what he has posted, has held up his hands and admitted he was wrong? For example, even though I and others directly quoted a statement from Honda that admitted Brexit was part of the reason it was closing that factory he has kept on claiming the company's position was that Brexit had not been a factor and had never said otherwise. Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted March 12, 2021 On 14/02/2020 at 12:06, PurpleCanary said: When Honda announced the closure it said Brexit was not a factor. This was met with widespread derision and went against what Honda executives had previously told the workers. Two or three days later, in the face of this disbelief, Honda issued a second statement, realising the first had just made itself look stupid. It went as follows: ''Honda is on record as stating that its preferred scenario following Brexit is one that delivers frictionless trade, access to talent and regulatory alignment. It is true that a āno-dealā scenario would cause a number of challenges for our operations. However, no one single event has led to the proposal to cease production at Swindon. The decision is in response to unprecedented change in the global automotive industry and the need to deploy electrification technologies across our business.'' That it was not 'one single event' that caused the decision is no doubt true. There were factors beyond Brexit. But by detailing the potential extra problems that Brexit would cause Honda is clearly saying that was one of the decisive factors. In reality it may well have tipped the balance. To spell it out, Honda says it wanted a Brexit that delivered frictionless trade, access to talent (through freedom of movement), and regulatory alignment. Which are the three key elements of the single market. But May had categorically ruled out staying in the single market. Honda says a no-deal Brexit would cause 'a number of challenges', which is business-speak for 'costly problems we won't have if we move elsewhere' but that is understating it. Any future trade deal that did not allow complete access to the single market would scr*w Honda's Swindon business model. I am not an expert on the motor industry but I know someone who is, and I gather that the profit margins are so tight that any friction in the process potentially makes it unworkable. And that is without the no-deal possibiity of tariffs. So Swindon's fate was effectively sealed the moment May threw out the SM option. That as it happens we seem to be heading towards the worst-case scenario of a no-deal might make it look as if Honda realised that was coming and otherwise would have saved Swindon. But not so. Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 12, 2021 has anyone got a quote fromĀ the CEO OF HONDA ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 584 Posted March 13, 2021 6 hours ago, keelansgrandad said: So you admit that exports to the EU (47% of our total exports go there) diminishing by 50% is a result of Brexit. The value of goods exported from the UK to the EU fell by Ā£5.6bn in January 2021, Grandpapa, but that isn't really negative news for us when one considers imports from the EU dropped by Ā£6.6bn... Looks like a win for the UK to me.. Maybe, just maybe, the EU should cease trying to punish the UK for the good of all concerned in Europe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
