ricardo 7,384 Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Herman said: 9 year old survey. 🤔 Surely nine year olds are too young to have a valid opinion🤔 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,297 Posted March 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Three out of four Europeans think EU is corrupt – survey – POLITICO And what is the figure for UK citizens (subjects) with regard to the UK government? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,767 Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Three out of four Europeans think EU is corrupt – survey – POLITICO I don't know why I humour you as yet again you prove you can't read or comprehend you own links "73% of Europeans think there is corruption in the EU institutions, according to a Eurobarometer survey published today (15 February). This compares to 79% who think there is corruption in their national institutions." Yes of course there is corruption in the EU. It would be amazing if there wasn't. Oddly 79% (more) think there is corruption in their own nations. There is also corruption in the UK - 100% guaranteed. You really are a simpleton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted March 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, ricardo said: Surely nine year olds are too young to have a valid opinion🤔 I haven't met a 9 year old who doesn't think they know it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,297 Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: Three out of four Europeans think EU is corrupt – survey – POLITICO A misleading title as shown by the first sentence: 73% of Europeans think there is corruption in the EU institutions, according to a Eurobarometer survey published today (15 February). This compares to 79% who think there is corruption in their national institutions. The highest levels of EU distrust were found in Sweden, Austria and Belgium. The lowest levels were in Poland, Malta and Bulgaria. The figure is slightly down from the 76% who thought there was EU corruption in 2009. Anyone who thinks that there is a major institution in any country or organisation which is free from some level of corruption must be living in cloud cuckoo land. Interrestingly, the figure above shows that citizens felt their own country's institutions to be more corrupt than the EU's (Well done EU!). https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/roberto-saviano-britain-corrupt-mafia-hay-festival-a7054851.html https://reason.com/2014/04/03/americans-say-75-percent-of-politicians/ https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/01/the-uk-is-becoming-more-corrupt-and-our-democracy-is-at-stake-8418561/ Edited March 11, 2021 by horsefly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted March 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, horsefly said: A misleading title as shown by the first sentence: 73% of Europeans think there is corruption in the EU institutions, according to a Eurobarometer survey published today (15 February). This compares to 79% who think there is corruption in their national institutions. The highest levels of EU distrust were found in Sweden, Austria and Belgium. The lowest levels were in Poland, Malta and Bulgaria. The figure is slightly down from the 76% who thought there was EU corruption in 2009. Anyone who thinks that there is a major institution in any country or organisation which is free from some level of corruption must be living in cloud cuckoo land. Interrestingly, the figure above shows that citizens felt their own country's institutions to be more corrupt than the EU's (Well done EU!). Indeed, but the EU is full of corruption and has not balanced its books since inception. Recent events show it is aiming to equal China in the way that it manipulates its own citizens with lies and propaganda. ... and now apparently it is blaming AZ for thrombosis deaths : https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1408450/astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clot-denmark-suspend-vaccination-uk-oxford-jab-covid19?int_source=traffic.outbrain&int_medium=traffic.outbrain&int_term=traffic.outbrain&int_content=traffic.outbrain&int_campaign=traffic.outbrain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul moy 235 Posted March 11, 2021 ... and the EU still say that we have an export ban on vaccines : https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1408403/EU-news-Charles-Michel-UK-vaccine-export-ban-attack-Boris-Johnson-latest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Herman said: 9 year old survey. 🤔 I could not find the up to date one saying only 6% but that's close enough Oh look I've now found it EU news: Huge majority say bloc going in wrong direction – official EU poll | Politics | News | Express.co.uk https://www.euneighbours.eu/sites/default/files/publications/2018-07/EU NEIGHBOURS east_AnnualSurvey20 Edited March 11, 2021 by SwindonCanary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 11, 2021 plus I FOUND THIS The Brief: corruption still a major issue in European Union | Euronews Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 11, 2021 It show what a free port can do GE chose us over a French port Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,767 Posted March 11, 2021 Do you think Jool's could rename this thread again as the Warning : Fake News Brexit Thread or perhaps the Warning : Mythical Brexit Thread. At least it would then be consistent with the Trade Description Act. With SC & PM putting up debunked rubbish I was wondering if we could let them then rant in their own little padded asylum. We'd look in occasionally to see if sanity had returned. I will return to my 'Reprise' thread - rational factual arguments or opinions please. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) poor simple mouse brain and his bleat about the freeport "But opponents say they don't boost employment overall, and moving economic activity from one place to another comes at a cost to the taxpayer." a huge cost on forfeited tax, to have construction in the same place as similar North Sea windfarm construction a fairly damning indictment of Tory business failure over the past decade ps should we add the lost tax revenue as a further Brexit cost to the nation ? Edited March 11, 2021 by Bill 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,200 Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, paul moy said: ... and the EU still say that we have an export ban on vaccines : https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1408403/EU-news-Charles-Michel-UK-vaccine-export-ban-attack-Boris-Johnson-latest Don’t lie, that has been established you are speaking garbage 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,200 Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, paul moy said: Indeed, but the EU is full of corruption and has not balanced its books since inception. Recent events show it is aiming to equal China in the way that it manipulates its own citizens with lies and propaganda. ... and now apparently it is blaming AZ for thrombosis deaths : https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1408450/astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clot-denmark-suspend-vaccination-uk-oxford-jab-covid19?int_source=traffic.outbrain&int_medium=traffic.outbrain&int_term=traffic.outbrain&int_content=traffic.outbrain&int_campaign=traffic.outbrain Stop anti vaxing. They have suspended to confirm no links, as you have to. This is nothing to do with your eu claims, it is to do with safety and concerns to a particular batch. In the true reports they ( Denmark etc ) have said highly unlikely to be connected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Well b back said: Don’t lie, that has been established you are speaking garbage expecting the Jools/Moy/RTB thing to tell the truth is rather as hopeful as expecting Father Dougall (swindo) to have a clue about brexit 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,200 Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, paul moy said: ... and the EU still say that we have an export ban on vaccines : https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1408403/EU-news-Charles-Michel-UK-vaccine-export-ban-attack-Boris-Johnson-latest We have no vaccine to export to other countries ( it is not to the EU ) however the EU are pointing out being one of the worlds main vaccine manufacturers they have so far exported 37 million doses. Keep up 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,297 Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, paul moy said: and now apparently it is blaming AZ for thrombosis deaths : Pathetic lies again, this is what it actually says in the link YOU posted: DENMARK has temporary stopped using the AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine after several health scares, it has announced. The Danish health authority has reported some cases of blood clots amongst people who had recently received the jab. The temporary ban comes despite the European Medicines Agency still authorising the Oxford-produced vaccine for use across EU member states. Estonia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Iceland and Latvia have announced similar restrictions after Austrian health chiefs suspended an AstraZeneca batch after a 49-year-old woman died of multiple thromboses 10 days after receiving a jab. Danish health minister Magnus Heunicke tweeted that it wasn’t clear whether the clots were linked to the vaccine. He said: “The health authorities have, due to precautionary measures, suspended vaccination with AstraZeneca following a signal of a possible serious side effect in the form of fatal blood clots. https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1408450/astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clot-denmark-suspend-vaccination-uk-oxford-jab-covid19?int_source=traffic.outbrain&int_medium=traffic.outbrain&int_term=traffic.outbrain&int_content=traffic.outbrain&int_campaign=traffic.outbrain Edited March 11, 2021 by horsefly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,200 Posted March 11, 2021 22 minutes ago, horsefly said: Pathetic lies again, this is what it actually says in the link YOU posted: DENMARK has temporary stopped using the AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine after several health scares, it has announced. The Danish health authority has reported some cases of blood clots amongst people who had recently received the jab. The temporary ban comes despite the European Medicines Agency still authorising the Oxford-produced vaccine for use across EU member states. Estonia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Iceland and Latvia have announced similar restrictions after Austrian health chiefs suspended an AstraZeneca batch after a 49-year-old woman died of multiple thromboses 10 days after receiving a jab. Danish health minister Magnus Heunicke tweeted that it wasn’t clear whether the clots were linked to the vaccine. He said: “The health authorities have, due to precautionary measures, suspended vaccination with AstraZeneca following a signal of a possible serious side effect in the form of fatal blood clots. https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1408450/astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clot-denmark-suspend-vaccination-uk-oxford-jab-covid19?int_source=traffic.outbrain&int_medium=traffic.outbrain&int_term=traffic.outbrain&int_content=traffic.outbrain&int_campaign=traffic.outbrain Indeed Tomorrow we are giving 1000 AZ doses, and thanks to people like mad moy this will be a hard sell. Denmark ( and 5 other countries ) have said it is highly unlikely to be the vaccine, but under their regulatory rules they must confirm this is the case. You may remember it was suspended before due to an adverse situation in the trials. Even Raab has backed the regulatory decision of Denmark. If ( highly unlikely ) there was proved a connection mad moy would be telling us they did nothing about it. Norway in December suspended Pfizer for ten days and Moy was telling everybody that would listen there was a possibility of adverse side effects to get at the EU. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted March 11, 2021 4 hours ago, keelansgrandad said: I haven't met a 9 year old who doesn't know more than @SwindonCanary Fixed it for you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFish 1,986 Posted March 11, 2021 3 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: It show what a free port can do GE chose us over a French port Good news, but 3000 jobs is an exageration.......maybe 750. Why do they make this up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted March 11, 2021 It really is disturbing that some are adopting the same tactic as Trump, no wonder they supported him, and just lying. Its not really a proper debate when people have to retort to lies. It just obfuscates everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 11, 2021 5 hours ago, BigFish said: Fixed it for you I haven't met a 9 year old who doesn't know more than bigfish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 11, 2021 5 hours ago, BigFish said: Good news, but 3000 jobs is an exageration.......maybe 750. Why do they make this up? 750 jobs to make all those wind turbines ? you are joking are you not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,297 Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) The horrific reality of Brexit explained very clearly by a UK cheese producer. Perhaps Swindon, Moy, or Jools would like to tell this man what he has got wrong (somehow I don't think they will): Edited March 12, 2021 by horsefly 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,200 Posted March 12, 2021 With @SwindonCanary and @paul moy regularly giving false information on the EU vaccine roll out thought it worth updating you on the true developments. Yesterday they approved the single dose Johnson and Johnson vaccine and they will receive 200 million doses over the next couple of months. They are set to approve 4 more vaccines over the next 6 weeks. Last month despite what mad moy tells you being a major manufacturer in the world they exported 9 million doses to us in the UK. Yesterday they crashed through the 1.25 million in a day barrier and are increasing their daily doses rapidly. They will likely at this rate be approaching 2 million by the end of the month. This is very good news for us to as it means our close neighbours will be vaccinated and that ensures the world will also be moving on. 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 12, 2021 Well b back That's good news for the EU. It looks like they are getting the vaccine roll out in order, at last Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,297 Posted March 12, 2021 46 minutes ago, Well b back said: With @SwindonCanary and @paul moy regularly giving false information on the EU vaccine roll out thought it worth updating you on the true developments. Yesterday they approved the single dose Johnson and Johnson vaccine and they will receive 200 million doses over the next couple of months. They are set to approve 4 more vaccines over the next 6 weeks. Last month despite what mad moy tells you being a major manufacturer in the world they exported 9 million doses to us in the UK. Yesterday they crashed through the 1.25 million in a day barrier and are increasing their daily doses rapidly. They will likely at this rate be approaching 2 million by the end of the month. This is very good news for us to as it means our close neighbours will be vaccinated and that ensures the world will also be moving on. Great news Wbb. But you do realise that this will upset Moy and ruin his day (hopefully), he's desperate for more EU citizens to die from Covid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
