The Positive Brexit Thread

[paul moy 235]

UK economy to be 23% bigger than France by 2035 .....  according to the Centre for Economics and Business Research :

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1390784/emmanuel-macron-news-uk-economy-bigger-france-eu-coronavirus-brexit-spt

Edited January 30, 2021 by paul moy

[paul moy 235]

14 hours ago, horsefly said:

FFS I suggest you take a little look at the history of market activity and then come back and tell us whether it is a reliable guide to our economic health. The markets exist primarily for investors to gamble on maximising their profits, and that has lead to the country being fu*cked over on numerous occasions.

Well, the UK didn't do too badly investing in AstraZeneca biotech facilities in our country last year. Some you win, some you lose.   Ironic though that your beloved EU invested in a French vaccine company that failed, and failed to invest enough where it would have won...... ie: in the UK.    C'est la vie.    😎

[horsefly 4,301]

How disgraceful of the EU to threaten to invoke the legal right in article 16 of the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement in order to protect vaccine supplies for its citizens. And how typically cowardly of them to back down when the Irish express their concerns that it might theaten the Good Friday Agreement. The next thing you know they'll be passing a bill in their parliament giving themselves the right to break international law and breach the terms of the Withdrawal Agreement they signed only a year earlier. You wouldn't catch the UK doing something so utterly disgraceful would you? Oh....****!!!!

[horsefly 4,301]

6 hours ago, Jools said:

😀 Like Rightwing Poland is going to pay KiO three hundred quid plus top ups for teaching/indoctrinating kids with Lefty BS 🙃 I'll hazard a guess he'll stay where his bread is buttered both sides in good ol' blighty.  

Still idiots on here defending the EU, even with the latest debacle concerning vaccines, defies belief -- It's why I rarely post these days.

Tired, tired, tired of the Lefty mantra that is conducive to nothing but sh*te. 

Oh dear! Are you finding it hard to track down any more of those QAnon videos that you flooded this site with? Must be so tiring for you. 

[Herman 9,779]

26 minutes ago, horsefly said:

How disgraceful of the EU to threaten to invoke the legal right in article 16 of the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement in order to protect vaccine supplies for its citizens. And how typically cowardly of them to back down when the Irish express their concerns that it might theaten the Good Friday Agreement. The next thing you know they'll be passing a bill in their parliament giving themselves the right to break international law and breach the terms of the Withdrawal Agreement they signed only a year earlier. You wouldn't catch the UK doing something so utterly disgraceful would you? Oh....****!!!!

I hear Von Der Leyen is setting up a press conference in the Berlaymont rose garden.😀

[PurpleCanary 5,562]

16 hours ago, Indy said:

Perhaps he’s confused by farmers markets, or Sunday markets?

Or the transfer market? To be serious, if Swindon had said the bond markets (and to an extent the commodities markets) tend to be less influenced by short-term events than the equity markets such as the Footsie and the Dow he would have had a rare if not terribly original point.

[A Load of Squit 5,170]

1 hour ago, horsefly said:

How disgraceful of the EU to threaten to invoke the legal right in article 16 of the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement in order to protect vaccine supplies for its citizens. And how typically cowardly of them to back down when the Irish express their concerns that it might theaten the Good Friday Agreement. The next thing you know they'll be passing a bill in their parliament giving themselves the right to break international law and breach the terms of the Withdrawal Agreement they signed only a year earlier. You wouldn't catch the UK doing something so utterly disgraceful would you? Oh....****!!!!

The EU wanted to act in a 'very specific and limited way' to ensure that they got what the contract said.

 

[A Load of Squit 5,170]

8 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:

If you contact me with his details I can help you out. I've followed family histories for loads of family's 

Did you discover that they were all descendants of an instagram model?

 

[horsefly 4,301]

12 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said:

The EU wanted to act in a 'very specific and limited way' to ensure that they got what the contract said.

 

Indeed! and they had the good grace and political nous not to go through with it when the Irish government expressed concerns that it might be to the detriment of the GFA. Interesting to see that the usual cesspool of RWNJs on here were quick to condemn the EU's legal intention (not carried through) but lauded Boris' threat to break international law by breaching the WA. Gutless hypocrites! surely not!

Edited January 30, 2021 by horsefly

[Herman 9,779]

Easily triggered these snowflake brexiters.😀

[The Real Buh 3,444]

11 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Indeed! and they had the good grace and political nous not to go through with it when the Irish government expressed concerns that it might be to the detriment of the GFA. Interesting to see that the usual cesspool of RWNJs on here were quick to condemn the EU's legal intention (not carried through) but lauded Boris' threat to break international law by breaching the WA. Gutless hypocrites! surely not!

They didn’t tell the Irish government, they had to get on the phone after they threatened to do it.

[Van wink 2,994]

17 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Indeed! and they had the good grace and political nous not to go through with it when the Irish government expressed concerns that it might be to the detriment of the GFA. Interesting to see that the usual cesspool of RWNJs on here were quick to condemn the EU's legal intention (not carried through) but lauded Boris' threat to break international law by breaching the WA. Gutless hypocrites! surely not!

That has to be the post of the year on this thread

[The Real Buh 3,444]

Remainers trying to move on and pretend the EU isn’t on fire right now 😂😂

 

 

[Herman 9,779]

Could this be the reason Bozo has kept his head down?

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/brexit/watch-we-will-have-no-hesitation-in-triggering-article-16-if-necessary-says-boris-johnson-39964412.html

Or this?

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/supply-of-covid-vaccine-doses-held-up-by-manufacturing-delays-1.4430676

[paul moy 235]

11 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

They didn’t tell the Irish government, they had to get on the phone after they threatened to do it.

Well, they are a quasi dictatorship that hopefully governments worldwide will treat with equal and necessary contempt in the future.

[paul moy 235]

4 minutes ago, Herman said:

Could this be the reason Bozo has kept his head down?

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/brexit/watch-we-will-have-no-hesitation-in-triggering-article-16-if-necessary-says-boris-johnson-39964412.html

Or this?

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/supply-of-covid-vaccine-doses-held-up-by-manufacturing-delays-1.4430676

Nope, he is just letting the disreputable EU dig an even bigger hole for itself. 

[The Real Buh 3,444]

2 minutes ago, paul moy said:

Well, they are a quasi dictatorship that hopefully governments worldwide will treat with equal and necessary contempt in the future.

Who do you reckon will be the next country to leave? It’s a tough one to call for me because there’s a lot of countries that already feel aggrieved and lots that will feel aggrieved going forward particularly when the vaccines flow into rich countries and not to them. Greece, Poland or maybe Italy?

[horsefly 4,301]

8 minutes ago, Herman said:

Could this be the reason Bozo has kept his head down?

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/brexit/watch-we-will-have-no-hesitation-in-triggering-article-16-if-necessary-says-boris-johnson-39964412.html

Or this?

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/supply-of-covid-vaccine-doses-held-up-by-manufacturing-delays-1.4430676

Excellent find Herman. As ever the scumbag RWNJs display their usual racism and hypocracy

[Herman 9,779]

Are You A Gammon?

 

https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a20680090/gammon-insult-tories-racist-tweets/

[A Load of Squit 5,170]

https://news.sky.com/story/what-is-article-16-and-why-did-the-eu-make-a-u-turn-after-triggering-it-12202915

This report from Sky News outlines that the EU's tactic worked and Johnson was forced to do something. Without this action they would've had the usual dithering from the PM.

Ms von der Leyen tweeted late on Friday that she'd held "constructive talks" with Mr Johnson.

"We agreed on the principle that there should not be restrictions on the export of vaccines by companies where they are fulfilling contractual responsibilities," she said.

However, an EU statement also warned that if its new export control system was abused it would "consider using all the instruments at its disposal".

 

[Herman 9,779]

3 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Excellent find Herman. As ever the scumbag RWNJs display their usual racism and hypocracy

https://twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius

There's a few good bits on this guys feed.

[Yellow Fever 3,793]

10 minutes ago, Herman said:

Could this be the reason Bozo has kept his head down?

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/brexit/watch-we-will-have-no-hesitation-in-triggering-article-16-if-necessary-says-boris-johnson-39964412.html

Or this?

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/supply-of-covid-vaccine-doses-held-up-by-manufacturing-delays-1.4430676

Yes - Quite possibly - I alluded to that elsewhere 

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/supply-of-covid-vaccine-doses-held-up-by-manufacturing-delays-1.4430676

"Supply of Covid vaccine doses held up by manufacturing delays - Oxford/AstraZeneca will rely on European plants for initial supplies after UK supply chain holdup Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 08:36

Anyway - let the ranters rant. UVL I think should go though whereas the vaccine controls are understandable the article 16 debacle was OTP.

As I keep saying - we need cool heads and some statesmanship.

AZ seem to have turned a triumph into a disaster for the company.

 

[The Real Buh 3,444]

France

Hit by bureaucratic and logistical delays, France has still managed to vaccinate more than one-million citizens, but its roll-out is behind schedule.

It had hoped to jab four-million people by the end of February, but has now revised that down to two-and-a-half-million.

In a further blow, French health chiefs earlier this week announced that the opening of half a million new appointment slots to administer Covid vaccines would be pushed back three days.

A decrease in the deliveries of Pfizer-BioNtech vaccines was blamed.

Spain

Spain has also been hit with delays in its vaccine roll-out.

In fact, the delays have been so bad, officials have been forced to stop the roll-out in some areas, so that they have enough to give a second dose to those who have already received their first. Madrid and Catalunya are two areas where this is the case.

Like France, they have jabbed more than one-million citizens so far.  

The roll-out has recently been hit by the Pfizer delay, with regional governments receiving only 196,000 doses instead of the 350,000 they had been expecting.

Germany

Germany has been particularly slow with its vaccination programme. Some political commentators believe this could be the drive behind the EU vaccine war - to deflect attention from Germany's poor performance.

Angela Merkel's government has come under fire from German media, including tabloid Bild, who labelled them 'vaccine snails' earlier this week.

Its first dose vaccine programme was suspend until yesterday, due to a delay in jab deliveries.

But it hopes to receive 11million doses by the end of March.  

Italy 

Initially one of the leading EU countries in terms of vaccine roll-out speed. 

Italy managed to vaccinate more than 1.5million people by mid-January.

But its roll-out has been hit by delivery delays and dropped off following the announcement of Pfizer's Europe-wide delay.

Denmark 

The EU's vaccine poster-child, Denmark raced ahead of the rest of the bloc with its vaccine roll-out.

The vaccine programme began on December 27. Since then, nearly 2 per cent of the population has been vaccinated - far more than any other EU country.

But, because it is tied into the EU's vaccine procurement programme, it too will suffer from the delays to the Pfizer and AstraZeneca deliveries

[horsefly 4,301]

Noticeable that the RWNJs haven't said one word in favour of the EU's decision not to invoke article 16. I take it they won't be expecting any extra supplies of vaccines from EU countries if there are production problems in the UK (which has happened in the past, as your link points out). Looking forward to them condemning Johnson's comment on not hesitating to invoke article 16.

[SwindonCanary 455]

3 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Noticeable that the RWNJs haven't said one word in favour of the EU's decision not to invoke article 16. I take it they won't be expecting any extra supplies of vaccines from EU countries if there are production problems in the UK (which has happened in the past, as your link points out). Looking forward to them condemning Johnson's comment on not hesitating to invoke article 16.

Whatever Boris said to them, must have frightened them to death.

[paul moy 235]

18 minutes ago, The Real Buh said:

Who do you reckon will be the next country to leave? It’s a tough one to call for me because there’s a lot of countries that already feel aggrieved and lots that will feel aggrieved going forward particularly when the vaccines flow into rich countries and not to them. Greece, Poland or maybe Italy?

Maybe Eire, as leaving would solve the border issue and give them better access to their biggest market the UK,  while removing the burden of contributing to the EUSSR dictatorship, retrieving their fishing rights from the CFA, and neutering EU interference and contempt, the likes of which we just experienced..

Edited January 30, 2021 by paul moy

[Herman 9,779]

Apologies and thanks YF. 👍

[paul moy 235]

8 minutes ago, horsefly said:

Noticeable that the RWNJs haven't said one word in favour of the EU's decision not to invoke article 16. I take it they won't be expecting any extra supplies of vaccines from EU countries if there are production problems in the UK (which has happened in the past, as your link points out). Looking forward to them condemning Johnson's comment on not hesitating to invoke article 16.

Keep up, that was weeks ago. 😂

[A Load of Squit 5,170]

It's no different from the negotiations late last year. The threat of 'no-deal' forced the UK to accept a deal that was more favourable to the EU. Now the threat of article Article 16 has forced the PM to act and agree that AZ must fulfill the contract with the EU.

 

[horsefly 4,301]

2 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said:

It's no different from the negotiations late last year. The threat of 'no-deal' forced the UK to accept a deal that was more favourable to the EU. Now the threat of article Article 16 has forced the PM to act and agree that AZ must fulfill the contract with the EU.

 

Who would have thought it. An organisation with a market population of over 400 million has more power than one with 70 million.