City 2nd 191 Posted March 18, 2019 The BBC are this morning severely criticising the Premier League and EFL for ‘double standards’ and ‘Hypocrisy’ for not holding tributes (minutes silence) to those killed in the New Zealand Christchurch attacks. Now like many other city supporters (well done) I was at Rotherham, and a minutes silence before KO was observed! So question to my fellow city supporters, was this in respect of Christchurch or not? Has someone at the BBC got this all wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted March 18, 2019 Slow news day, the BBC stated " A minute's applause was held at Craven Cottage before Fulham's game against Liverpool on Sunday, although this was in memory a Fulham employee who passed away last month." But on the TV they said it as for the employee AND Christchurch ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
It's Character Forming 1,161 Posted March 18, 2019 35 minutes ago, City 2nd said: The BBC are this morning severely criticising the Premier League and EFL for ‘double standards’ and ‘Hypocrisy’ for not holding tributes (minutes silence) to those killed in the New Zealand Christchurch attacks. Now like many other city supporters (well done) I was at Rotherham, and a minutes silence before KO was observed! So question to my fellow city supporters, was this in respect of Christchurch or not? Has someone at the BBC got this all wrong? I was there too and there was no announcement, just the minutes silence well observed. It must have been for Christchurch I’m sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
City 2nd 191 Posted March 18, 2019 Thanks CF, likewise I heard no announcement, but asked those I attended with, who thought themselves it was for Christchurch. The noise our end when the teams came out was fantastic so not surprised no one seemed to hear what announcements were made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bethnal Yellow and Green 1,560 Posted March 18, 2019 Not the BBC making this criticism but a lawyer who used to be employed by the FA, and the BBC are reporting it. There is a difference between clubs individually making the decision to have a minutes silence and the Premier League and EFL telling all clubs to hold a silence before their games. I guess that is what the person making the complaint is talking about. Seems a bit of a nothing, but this is the rod the Premier League and EFL have made by having minutes silences for any global events - you do it once, you’ll have to do it every time 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Year of the tiger 54 Posted March 18, 2019 There was no announcement at Rotherham, very strange, so I believed it was for Christchurch. However I've subsequently seen it was for theirChairman/owner's? wife who recently died. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted March 18, 2019 I don't believe it was hypocrisy but as BYG says, the football authorities were probably a little silly in not marking the moment. With football crowds having their fair share of right wing zealots, I think there perhaps should have been a recognition that not football but the people who watch it, are as horrified about what happened in Christchurch as Manchester. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,410 Posted March 18, 2019 The minutes silence at Rotherham I believe was originally planned to mark the first home match since the passing of the wife of the Rotherham chairman, Joan. She passed away earlier in the month (they marked her passing at the match at Bramall Lane last week as well), although I am sure the Millers augmented the ceremony with thoughts of the people who lost their lives in Christchurch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 18, 2019 5 hours ago, City 2nd said: The BBC are this morning severely criticising the Premier League and EFL for ‘double standards’ and ‘Hypocrisy’ for not holding tributes (minutes silence) to those killed in the New Zealand Christchurch attacks. Now like many other city supporters (well done) I was at Rotherham, and a minutes silence before KO was observed! So question to my fellow city supporters, was this in respect of Christchurch or not? Has someone at the BBC got this all wrong? incorrect they have done nothing of the sort Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeiranShikari 1,420 Posted March 18, 2019 Far too many minutes silences at football these days. Other than remembrance day they should be personal to individual football clubs or cities imo, like when a former player dies or when there's a tragic case like the Sophie Taylor one earlier on this season. Not enough games in the season to cover all of the terrorist attacks or players/chairman that few in the stadium would have even heard of before they were all over the news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lazza 25 Posted March 18, 2019 I know this is nothing to do with the main subject but does it matter what the minutes silence is for? It is a chance to have silence so that you can contemplate things for a moment before you forget it all and get on with enjoying the game. Nobody can tell you what you can think about. If you want to think about the death of the wife of another clubs owner you can. If you want to think about the victims in NZ go ahead, you can mourne for all the dead in all the wars around the world if you want to see the bigger picture, if it’s Brexit then you need a life but it’s still your choice. You could even just think about how uncomfortable your shoes are if you like! Personally I prefer applause to silence but that another subject. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, KeiranShikari said: Far too many minutes silences at football these days. Other than remembrance day they should be personal to individual football clubs or cities imo, like when a former player dies or when there's a tragic case like the Sophie Taylor one earlier on this season. Not enough games in the season to cover all of the terrorist attacks or players/chairman that few in the stadium would have even heard of before they were all over the news. I cannot remember there being a minutes silence for the 100 who were killed by a car bomb in Kabul 21st Jan 2019... maybe with that not happening in a 'white' country then it is not that important. And it is not 'your choice' as you are obliged to remain silent for those you do not know. The original silence after WW1 was for those who would have known someone killed or maimed. Likewise the singing of Abide with me at cup finals after WW2. We laughed at North Koreans showing excessive public displays of grief after the death of Kim Jong il, but how much better are 'we' in relative terms ? Is there a minutes silence at theatres and cinemas, if not will it soon become the required norm ? And who decides what is worthy......the individual, or corporate good ? Edited March 18, 2019 by Bill 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,661 Posted March 18, 2019 This guy quoted clearly has a line into the beeb and they’ve run with it as it’s controversial. For Rugby, having a minute’s silence made reasonable sense - NZ is the top Rugby nation and there’s close links through the game; but for ‘normal’ football league sides in this country there is no real link so it didn’t really make much sense; for the guy to link to one French atrocity and make a race ‘hypocrisy’ story out of it is quite feeble thinking as there’s unfortunately been multiple incidents in the US/elsewhere. IMO there’s nothing in this story other than someone with an axe to grind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 19, 2019 On 18/03/2019 at 12:43, Bill said: I cannot remember there being a minutes silence for the 100 who were killed by a car bomb in Kabul 21st Jan 2019... maybe with that not happening in a 'white' country then it is not that important. And I doubt there will be any acknowledgement of the deaths of over 1000 in the floods in Mozambique either - as I doubt most are even aware of what has happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feedthewolf 4,846 Posted March 19, 2019 Has Paul joined the new forum yet? No thread about minute's silences would be complete without his input. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,459 Posted March 19, 2019 Perhaps he’s having a long spell of silence for the old forum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branston Pickle 3,661 Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) Brentford have it about right - they set aside a specific game, I think each January, as ‘Brentford Remembers’ and have a minute’s silence to mark all those who have died in the previous year; I dare say they do specific ‘silences’/‘applauses’ as appropriate (if everyone else is), but it feels sometimes that if you’re not careful you could make a reason to have one nearly every game and diluting/losing the impact of what it signifies. Edited March 19, 2019 by Branston Pickle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,395 Posted March 19, 2019 You could have it every week for virtually anything and it then becomes pointless virtue signalling. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FenwayFrank 2,459 Posted March 20, 2019 Looks like their fans were just as confused https://www.millersbanter.co.uk/t65395189/pre-match-silence/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 21, 2019 Another minutes silence - as 70 trumps 50 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iraq-ferry-incident-death-toll-tigris-river-mosul-latest-a8833501.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
city4eva 213 Posted March 22, 2019 I was at Rotherham but have no idea what the minutes silence was for as the stadium announcer was still announcing the teams when the ref started the minutes silence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 22, 2019 another minutes silence https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/ghana-bus-crash-today-death-toll-passengers-latest-updates-a8834856.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
City 2nd 191 Posted March 23, 2019 On 18/03/2019 at 12:43, Bill said: I cannot remember there being a minutes silence for the 100 who were killed by a car bomb in Kabul 21st Jan 2019... maybe with that not happening in a 'white' country then it is not that important. And it is not 'your choice' as you are obliged to remain silent for those you do not know. The original silence after WW1 was for those who would have known someone killed or maimed. Likewise the singing of Abide with me at cup finals after WW2. We laughed at North Koreans showing excessive public displays of grief after the death of Kim Jong il, but how much better are 'we' in relative terms ? Is there a minutes silence at theatres and cinemas, if not will it soon become the required norm ? And who decides what is worthy......the individual, or corporate good ? Why have you brought the ‘race’ and racialism card into what was an innocent post. Shame on you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill 1,788 Posted March 24, 2019 18 hours ago, City 2nd said: Why have you brought the ‘race’ and racialism card into what was an innocent post. Shame on you! Because race was, and has, always be part of that subject. Unless of course those killed in Mali are afforded a minutes silence - and if not, perhaps you could explain why their deaths do not warrant that silence "Militia fighters descended on a village in central Mali before dawn on Saturday, killing at least 115 people in the latest deadly attack blamed on an ethnic militia, local authorities said. " https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/23/militia-attack-mali-village-at-least-115-dead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites