interesting story on Colney

[Bill 1,788]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/apr/06/delia-smith-hails-norwich-new-direction-improve-academy#comment-114448653

[norfolkngood 1,174]

Why does the Guardian get these interviews but the local press seem scared to ask serious questions ?

[Van wink 2,994]

Sometimes the Clown really is beyond belief

[TIL 1010 5,246]

Well you learn something everyday,City1st is a Guardian reader.

[ron obvious 1,711]

http://services.pinkun.com/forums/pinkun-forums/cs/forums/3617302/ShowPost.aspx

[Hairy Canary 759]

I reckon he found it Til, as it was published on Saturday.

[TIL 1010 5,246]

There you go ron.http://services.pinkun.com/forums/pinkun-forums/cs/forums/3617302/ShowPost.aspx[:D]

[Van wink 2,994]

Got there in the end😃

The Clown has really excelled having even posted on the other thread.🤥

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

Sounds good in theory and whilst I remain in total favour of the Academy above all approach and appreciate the reasons for it being necessary it cannot be denied that over reliance upon bringing through youth is a risky business.

How may bright prospects and so-called super stars for the future never make it through? Answer: the vast majority.

Young Morris would appear to be on the cards as the latest "failure." I have put that in commas as he will no doubt succeed at a lower level in the league, but unlikely at the level required by NCFC.

We now have a host replacing him, and the same question need be asked

This is not a problem though, as I see it. If our Academy 1 (and there are only 27 of these in the entire country ... with not all being PL teams) is able to produce a constant stream of youngster who can be sold on then that is it''s main aim. It is overstretching it to expect, as Webber seems to, that we can produce one first-teamer a year. On the other hand the occasional Murphy (s) will happen and contribute to funding.

Never signing players is a nonsense. An approach funnelled overmuch towards the Academy is unrealistic. We must always keep an eye on the market.

The two most influential players we have had in recent years, Huckerby and Holt, along with many of the great Walker side were not academy products. I We were hard up in those days as well.

For balance, famous sales in our past Fashanu, Fox, Sutton, Mills and Green, amongst others, have been home grown.

Yes, I like it but I will like it more if and when it moves beyond the "pie in the sky" level of thinking.

[Bill 1,788]

Here we see, from times past, the troughs being filled so as to attract the excited pigsnot to miss on anything, we see the ancient fat old bore come waddling out (10 secs) you may think that they all look pretty much the same - and that they would most likely all sound the pretty much same if we could hear them(maybe they are all the same)Oinkun forum

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

I realise that that un-encrypted nonsense is to contribute to your latest argument (this time with the ever present Van Wink) but you started this thread, which is of great interest and worthy of sensible discussion.

Surely you are shooting yourself in the foot by persevering with this mutual hurling of insults and the rest.

It is spoiling this forum and pisses a great many decent contributors off.

[Hoola Han Solo 448]

oh dear

somebody’s already started a thread about this

mouse brain

[lake district canary 4,836]

Well I for one hadn''t seen the article before, so thanks City 1st for posting.  The other thread had no clickable link and discussion on what Purple put in that op stood in it''s own right - and I wouldn''t have connected the two if people hadn''t pointed it out.   

[FenwayFrank 2,717]

A double post really isn’t the crime of the century is it ?

[Hairy Canary 759]

Neither is quoting estimated figures to illustrate a point but that invariably gets pedantically shot down and ridiculed and derails perfectly good discussions.

Hardly a surprise then that people take the Pi$$ when that same someone starts a duplicate thread, particularly as he posted on the first one so must have been aware it existed!

[FenwayFrank 2,717]

That’s fine, so what we’re saying is those people taking the p1ss on this thread are actually no better then

[Hairy Canary 759]

If you like Frank

[Grumpy 147]

[quote user="BroadstairsR"]I realise that that un-encrypted nonsense is to contribute to your latest argument (this time with the ever present Van Wink) but you started this thread, which is of great interest and worthy of sensible discussion.

Surely you are shooting yourself in the foot by persevering with this mutual hurling of insults and the rest.

It is spoiling this forum and pisses a great many decent contributors off.[/quote]

You are so right.

There areas many in house barbs and insults that make no sense at all to us newbies.

It''s a shame

[Fuzzar 1,861]

Stick with it Grumpy, you''ll eventually get the hang of it!

[Big Vince 427]

[quote user="Basil Brusque"]https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/apr/06/delia-smith-hails-norwich-new-direction-improve-academy#comment-114448653

[/quote]

So there we have it! Delia wants Norwich to be like Thetford.

Hopeless. Just hopeless. People really are wasting their time supporting a club with such chronically unambitious owners.

[Bill 1,788]

[quote user="lake district canary"]Well I for one hadn''t seen the article before, so thanks City 1st for posting.  The other thread had no clickable link and discussion on what Purple put in that op stood in it''s own right - and I wouldn''t have connected the two if people hadn''t pointed it out.   [/quote]Thank you Lakey. It is not a double post as it was in regard to how an ''outside'' media saw us, given hw small the event would normally have been perceived.Sadly as elsewhere the same posters chose to high jack the thread with their usual level of personal attacks. It is water off a ducks back as far as I am concerned but it does cause disruption for others. Unfortunately we have been here before (recently) and previously with others having this level of attack aimed at them.The same names, and the same posters who coincidentally just happen to be around at that time to post a ''response'' to my post. Posts that almost NEVER contain ANY comment on football curiously enough.

However back on thread. If other posters were to be believed it was to be us battling against relegation, not Sunderland. Their plight certainly highlights that it is not just about money. They still have parachute payments, received a huge sum for Pickford and have ''hinestors'' as well.Did they have the wrng managers. Alladyce, Moyes, Grayson and now Coleman would suggest that one of them would get it right.As said, with a nod to a former and late member of this parish,  beating them could relegate them (as good as) tonight. Though that will obviously depend on results elsewhere as well. One of those result would need to be Barnsley who go to poorman road needing points, against a Barnsley man (MM) who leaves the binners at the end of this season.The results of both games will contribute to who finishes above who in May. Not much to play for some might say, hough just as important as fighting relegation others might have !

[Van wink 2,994]

😇

[Hoola Han Solo 448]

Please keep on topic City 1st. This thread is about Colney, not Sunderland.

[Bill 1,788]

there you have me  (and it is Basil when we are in public)

[Hoola Han Solo 448]

Sorry Basil

[TIL 1010 5,246]

Do i spot the victim card being played here ?

[SwindonCanary 457]

I still believe Category One academy is a waste of time and money, at a cost of  £2m+ a year and the building of facility''s, we will never make a profit from it. 

[lake district canary 4,836]

[quote user="SwindonCanary"]I still believe Category One academy is a waste of time and money, at a cost of  £2m+ a year and the building of facility''s, we will never make a profit from it.  [/quote]Infrastructure is key to any developing football club and the building of facilities such like the club are building will therefore never be a waste of money.  It is the sign of a club moving forwards - and will make it more attractive to people looking in and wondering whether to join the club, be it players or coaching staff. 

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

"I still believe Category One academy is a waste of time and money, at a cost of £2m+ a year and the building of facility''s, we will never make a profit from it."

Try telling that to all the clubs that currently aspire to it, including those down the road.

With only twenty clubs in the entire league eligible for it it is a major feather in our cap apart from giving us a head start over other clubs with regards to the scope it provides for enlisting promising youngsters.

Besides, I thought that the whole new direction of our club was based upon producing youth through the academy (one breakthrough into the first team per season as Webber very ambitiously assumes.)

It is not really all about producing first-teamers though, nor is it about producing the occasional multi-millionaire sale like Murphy. As long as we can produce a steady stream of young players, for a few hundred thousand each, who can go onto ply their trade in the lower leagues or abroad then, long with FL grants the financial burden will not out weigh the many advantages of being amongst the country''s elite with regards the development of youth.

[Hoola Han Solo 448]

Swindon, if we well at least one player for £2m a year it pays for itself, plus there’s the possibility of developing good youngsters for the first team? What are you basing your whinging on?