westcoastcanary 173 Posted October 31, 2016 ….. but who, for God’s sake, thought it would be agood idea to cross a groundhog with a lemming? As a result, when Groundhog Daycomes round again, we have the same stampede of yellow-coated lemmings from theCarrow Road stands and over the same old cliff.Someone on another thread referred to rebelliousplayers pissed off with having to “slum it” (as they see it) in Englishfootball’s second tier. Trouble is, the players who think playing in theChampionship is below them (if there actually are any) are far from alone;exactly the same attitude is shared by many thousands of Carrow Road fans. Andjust look at the agonising, bitterness, frustration, anger and other negative,soul-destroying reactions generated, all because we just maybe won''t get backimmediately to "our proper place" in the EPL.It used to be fun going to games, home and away.Nobody bothered with the league table, because bottom two never threatened andpromotion was a pipedream. You hoped for an enjoyable game, and if the Canariesturned over the opposition and emerged with the points so much the better; ifnot, well it wasn’t all doom and gloom presaging the end of the world.Afterwards there was a lot more laughter than ever there were tears, and moreof the same to look forward to the following Saturday.Thereare a few on here for whom the fun hasn’t ever stopped. With every passing GroundhogDay, it becomes more of a mystery to me why the rest don’t join them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted October 31, 2016 Good stuff.I still enjoy going to games, win or lose, does that make me odd?I will never understand the mentality of folks who whinge endlessly but keep on going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duncan Edwards 2,424 Posted October 31, 2016 [quote user="morty"]Good stuff.I still enjoy going to games, win or lose, does that make me odd?I will never understand the mentality of folks who whinge endlessly but keep on going.[/quote]No. Sometimes we are bloody hopeless like Saturday, other times we are sublime like, erm, the second half at Forest.The point is that it''s like my wife''s cooking. When it''s good, it''s brilliant and I devour it like an angry wolf. When it''s bad, I eat what I can and order a curry later. Irrespective of what''s served up, I love her. That''s what being a Norwich fan is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iwans Big Toe 382 Posted October 31, 2016 [quote user="westcoastcanary"]….. but who, for God’s sake, thought it would be a good idea to cross a groundhog with a lemming? As a result, when Groundhog Day comes round again, we have the same stampede of yellow-coated lemmings from the Carrow Road stands and over the same old cliff. Someone on another thread referred to rebellious players pissed off with having to “slum it” (as they see it) in English football’s second tier. Trouble is, the players who think playing in the Championship is below them (if there actually are any) are far from alone; exactly the same attitude is shared by many thousands of Carrow Road fans. And just look at the agonising, bitterness, frustration, anger and other negative, soul-destroying reactions generated, all because we just maybe won''t get back immediately to "our proper place" in the EPL. It used to be fun going to games, home and away. Nobody bothered with the league table, because bottom two never threatened and promotion was a pipedream. You hoped for an enjoyable game, and if the Canaries turned over the opposition and emerged with the points so much the better; if not, well it wasn’t all doom and gloom presaging the end of the world. Afterwards there was a lot more laughter than ever there were tears, and more of the same to look forward to the following Saturday. There are a few on here for whom the fun hasn’t ever stopped. With every passing Groundhog Day, it becomes more of a mystery to me why the rest don’t join them. [/quote] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted November 1, 2016 @IBTIt''s not the likes of me and morty hankering after "the good old days"; it''s the pant wetting malcontents who are doing exactly that. I used the past tense to make the comparison, but the reality is that, for the vast majority of fans throughout the country (not to mention other countries), "how it used to be", as I put it, is how it still is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,757 Posted November 1, 2016 ''Why isn''t everybody perfect like meeeee???'' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buh 0 Posted November 1, 2016 For some, self destruction is in their very nature. They will go after it and pursue it untill it becomes a reality.Saturday is a test of bottle for the players, no doubt. It''s also a test of bottle for those fans that are crying their eyes out because they aren''t on match of the dayHave you got the bottle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chesney Hawkes 0 Posted November 1, 2016 I''ve started booing my wife when she clears away the main course, and then slow handclapping during dessert, which I don''t finish because I flounce out to the pub with two spoonfuls to go.And don''t even start me on "bedroom stuff". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Two penneth 0 Posted November 1, 2016 Ah, the good old days. Yellow shirts and black shorts, Match of the Week, black and white telly, p****ing in a trough on the ground at the back of the river end banking, half time score numbers on hooks. But yes we were happy. Win or lose it was enjoyable. Too much money around now. Players not happy unless feeding from the top table. Apathy creeps in. Wall to wall football several nights of the week. The game is not special anymore, for some of the fans and it seems, alarmingly for a few of the players. Saturday will reveal much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Number 9 0 Posted November 1, 2016 Surely a Groundhog is a Roedent (hehe) which pokes it''s rrrrse out of the hole it was hiding in.Oh er Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lake district canary 4,830 Posted November 1, 2016 I appreciate the sentiments of the op, but there are two sides to it - yes we want to enjoy our team when they play, but if they look as if they are not trying, or are not focused on the job, or the pressure has got to them, then something needs to change. Saturday was a nightmare match. We''ve had three of them away from home now. Birmingham, Newcastle and now Brighton. If they want fans to show unmitigating support, they have to sort themselves out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morty 0 Posted November 1, 2016 Is a supporter really a true one if he stops going just because his team isn''t winning every week? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The young canary 0 Posted November 1, 2016 I go home and away spends thousands in the process therefore if I am served utter sh@t like Saturday I have every right to show my dissatisfaction It is not a one off nearly all of the Callander year 2016 has been poor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tumbleweed 106 Posted November 1, 2016 But football debate will never change, it''s just the medium which has. Now you don''t just get the miserable, or overly happy, bloke next to you. Or chat with a few mates in the pub. You can share your views with thousands of people who can happily debate, or cyberbully, with you.When things aren''t going right it is not a bad thing to start wondering why. Just as the news rarely carries good stories: "Mrs Jones didn''t get run over on her way to work this morning" so it is easier to focus on things that need improvement, of which at the moment there seem to be several.There will always be a spectrum of views from those who see nothing wrong and just turn up for probably a snooze and a half time cocoa to those who are truly looking at everything negatively. Most sit somewhere in the middle. But the beauty of a forum like this is that we can see that whole spectrum and attempts to quash free speech in matters of football debate are in my view philosophically wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chip20 69 Posted November 1, 2016 [quote user="morty"]Is a supporter really a true one if he stops going just because his team isn''t winning every week?[/quote]I wish some of them would! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted November 1, 2016 Do you flounce off to any particular pub KC? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chesney Hawkes 0 Posted November 1, 2016 Anywhere away from all the happy clappy husbands who accept whatever muck they are dished up because they think marriage is for better or worse. Honestly, those people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted November 1, 2016 @TumbleweedNo-one is trying to quash free speech or control debate on the forum. My OP was simply pointing out that you don''t need your team to be among the top x% to have fun supporting it, for any value of x (being in the EPL is being in the top 1% of teams in the hierarchy of England league football). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted November 1, 2016 Stracey it is then.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 6,145 Posted November 1, 2016 Enjoyed this ''impressionistic'' post. This forum needs more of them. Makes a point but doesn''t take itself too seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted November 1, 2016 [Y] sonyc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 10,764 Posted November 1, 2016 Only problem with the OP is after 15 seasons of not caring what division in you''re suddenly Ipswich Town and everything is all terrible and Ipswich-y Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted November 1, 2016 [quote user="hogesar"]Only problem with the OP is after 15 seasons of not caring what division in you''re suddenly Ipswich Town and everything is all terrible and Ipswich-y[/quote] [:D] We always contrive to outdo them though hog, it''s only taken 5 years of yo-yoing for everything to become terrible and Norwich-y!Whatever, as I see it, your "not caring what division you are in" misses the point. It is perfectly possible to aspire to something better while still mining a rich seam of enjoyment from where you are. I dare say there are even Town supporters of whom this is true [;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted November 1, 2016 Man after my own heart Westy. Before they know it life will have passed them by. They will look back on all those wasted hours spent blubbing. Headstones will probably say something like : -Here lies the body of Canary StuNever missed a game but enjoyed only two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo118 0 Posted November 1, 2016 [quote user="Duncan Edwards"][quote user="morty"]Good stuff.I still enjoy going to games, win or lose, does that make me odd?I will never understand the mentality of folks who whinge endlessly but keep on going.[/quote]No. Sometimes we are bloody hopeless like Saturday, other times we are sublime like, erm, the second half at Forest.The point is that it''s like my wife''s cooking. When it''s good, it''s brilliant and I devour it like an angry wolf. When it''s bad, I eat what I can and order a curry later. Irrespective of what''s served up, I love her. That''s what being a Norwich fan is.[/quote]Just showed my wife this. She smiled and said "that''s lovely".P.S. She hasn''t been drinking either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,757 Posted November 2, 2016 I enjoy going to games. Lucky really, as it''s an absolute pain in the arse to get there from where I live. I''m not the loudest in the ground (the Jarrold doesn''t really stand for that sort of thing) but I support my team and have also done a couple of away trips this season. I also kind of agree with not caring too much about the divison we''re in- my most enjoyable seasons following Norwich have come in a variety of divisions. But I''m not going to tell anyone else how to support their team and what they should do or say in or out of the ground. I''ve booed on occasions, I''ve left early and I stand by it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westcoastcanary 173 Posted November 2, 2016 @king canaryThis isn''t about telling anybody how they should do anything; it''s simply drawing attention to the possibility and attractions of an alternative attitude, an attitude which allows millions of fans world-wide to have fun supporting teams whatever their place in the football hierarchy. If some prefer to impose on themselves a state of almost constant dissatisfaction, with only the briefest intervals of relief, that is their business. But as I said in the final sentence of my OP, it''s an ever-increasing mystery to me why they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buh 0 Posted November 2, 2016 Groundhog Day?"I eard that ''X'' did ''X'' from a mate of mine and I was all the managers fault and john ruddy ate a house cat 100% legit" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barclay seats 4849 the 3rd 0 Posted November 2, 2016 I love my team ,,, go to every match at home and some away . I hate it when we lose ,, it spoils my week .Any " so called " supporter who enjoys us losing ? Not sure what you call that 😳As the saying goes " show me a good loser ... and I will show you a loser " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites