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[quote user="Iwans Big Toe"]The board of our football club have put me in the mind of the kid down the park who''s football you used to play with. Everyone wanted to play World Cup, but he wanted to play headers and volleys and as he would threaten to go home and take his ball with him, you''d have to put up with playing headers and volleys.It''s pretty much the same with Norwich City now days. Delia and MWJ are the kid with the football and we''re forced to put up with headers and volleys because the only other kid in the area with a football supports Ipswich and we don''t want to hang out with binners!!!!![/quote]I''ve always suspected that the club uses the media and social media to quell dissent, going beyond the obvious Archant connection. At moments of crisis a sycophantic Mick Dennis article will be published, pro-incumbent blog posts will appear and an army of vociferous inners will suddenly rise up on the forums. They always try to denigrate the outers and trot out the same excuses, as if they''re all reading from the same script.

[quote user="lake district canary"]If Tuesday was abject, today was folly.  No help for a flagging midfield, whilst Forest had three fresh players out there so late goals not a surprise. Predictable and lame result, on top of Middlesbrough, the last twenty minutes against Bolton which the midfield disappeared and the previous few matches.[/quote]We must have at least one, probably two surplus central defenders. Our midfield options from the bench yesterday were Lafferty or perhaps at a push Whittaker. The worrying thing is that we''re going to be left short until the new year when Ofoe is expected to return. Even with a fit Ofoe we could have done with another option.How did our football board allow such a simple strategic error to happen? It''s such an obvious mistake that could have easily been forseen and prevented.

[quote user="Cheap Cheap Canaries"][quote user="Donkey dangler"]No, we don''t need a statue of Delia in Norwich[/quote]Just how sad would a statue of Delia be , the club has never even got close to being as successful as it was before she got her hands on it .If we have never had anybody worthy of a statue then just leave it , do we really want a statue of somebody who most of the country remember for a drunken half time rant in the middle of the pitch ?[/quote]Whoever in the Norwich Society who suggested this idea must be a plastic. Delia should have left after it emerged that we had an alcoholic in charge who brought shame and embarassment onto the club. It''s not like we could brush off the incident due to her reign being successful, as two relegations and financial problems ensued.

[quote user="jas the barclay king"]Sadly for me out...I agree with some of the points made here and in other threads re the board too.. Serious questions have to be asked of the Smiths, Bowkett, all of them in fact. Paul Lambert wasn''t a stupid man and knew what would happen under our dithering board... You could argue that perhaps they hung Hughton out to dry too.. it needed money to be spent in January... They let him get an unwell Jonas Gutierrez on loan... relegation meant he''d get the flack and they wouldnt...Barring Worthington (Who signed Huckerby and went up off the back of that) and Lambert its''s been nothing but a catalogue of disasters since the smiths took over... Rioch and Hamilton nearly ended in relegation, Holding onto Worthy for nearly 2 years too long after relegation from the premiership... Peter Grant, it was stated at the time he was a friend of Delias and Michaels... an old pals act... it was never going to work Glenn Roeder... Ripped the heart and soul out of us.. Bryan Gunn, a club man, a Norwich Man not just in terms of football but in terms of his personality in the city... A charity founder saving lives with Leukemia... Dropped into a job he was never ever going to refuse and never ever going to be able to do... yet again someone Delia and MWJ closely worked with and liked.. another "old boy" and friend... another failure..Paul Lambert was luck... and so was what he achieved to some extent.. he was impatient and wanted it all but "Prudence with Ambition" wouldn''t allow it... what might have been?we know what happened under Hughton.. and they made the same mistakes again.. waiting too long then going for the "club man" "Mr Norwich City" "local personality" and "Friend" to get them out of it....  All bought in by the same constant people...I feel sorry for Adams, out of his depth, but a good man and a good coach who I would hope would go back to the youth side if things didn’t work out.. but I don''t trust the board to get it right.. not now and not ever... Delia and MWJ are getting older... Fry isn''t a businessman and Phillips was only bought onto the board, in my opinion, to keep the local press "club Friendly" and report nothing negative.The time has come... don''t sell us out to a dodgy investor who''s intentions aren''t clear but do sell us to someone who understands football, maybe someone who''s a little bit of an Ar*ehole... waving scarves and cuddling the fans isn''t what we want Delia... Thank you for the good times, but go and enjoy a retirement...It''s time to let it go...[/quote]Agree with most of that, except that if Smith and Wynn-Jones have no dependents then why not leave the club to the fans? I''m sure some kind of arrangements could be made somehow regarding the setup. We should never be in a situation where fans cannot effect the running of their club, as is the case now and previously under Chase.Everything went wrong when Walker was sacked and Rioch appointed. We went through so many changes in the backroom staff that the football culture we had was lost and the board was unable to recreate what existed under Stringer and Walker no matter which manager followed.A stable and relatively successful period under Worthy didn''t bear fruit longer term (even with one year''s premiership money and parachute payments) and within a few years we went down to League One and almost into administration. Three successful years under Lambert similarly fizzled out, so something somewhere wasn''t working to the extent that we never built upon our successes.

[quote user="nutty nigel"]Agree with Swansea and Southampton but for those two there are at least 20 others doing worse. That''s why I have confidence in ours.[/quote]We ought to be learning from them what they''re doing right. For example, I doubt Swansea would have touched Mackay (our 1st choice according to Purple Canary) with a barge pole if they were in a similar situation to us at the end of last season. They would have looked high and low for someone to play their chosen Spanish-type style.

The Swansea board obviously knew their football. They picked managers and built a coaching infrastructure in order to play a highly technical passing game. They didn''t necessarily go for the most experienced person with the best record, they chose someone who would be committed to playing a particular technical style and wouldn''t just hoof it if they needed results (eg Martinez, Souza).Our club sacked Walker who was trying to essentially do what Swansea did (years before Swansea did it), and we were eventually overtaken by them. Our board are short-termist, lack footballing knowledge and hence our club tend to lurch from one crisis to another.

Even taking into account the massive changes in football in the last 20 years, Delia has a poorer record than Chase. The quality of the football has nosedived.

Typical little old Norwich attitude from the inners. Nobody wants to come and manage us, nobody is available when we have a vacancy. Clubs like Middlesborough can attract a former Real Madrid assistant, but we have to make do with the man who organised the Bovril and biscuits for Roy Waller.

Out.The prawn sandwich munching luvvies, ie Delia, Wynn-Jones, Bowkett and Fry, should all get the hell out of our club.

[quote user="Bor Bor Bor"]Adams was unable to keep City in the Premier League but has now been handed a three-year job and tasked with getting the Canaries back to the top flight. McNally said he would not be naming any of the other candidates interviewed for the job because he had “too much respect” for all of the candidates and their clubs but said: “Neil was the first person to be offered the job, nobody has turned down the job.” He continued: “Our ambition is that we want to get back to the Premier League and the appointment of Neil was carried out with that in mind at the earliest opportunity. “Of course we respect the Championship, it’s a very tough, competitive league but in terms of whoever had been here today there as no consensus was among the support, whoever was the favourite on websites, the polls, with the bookmakers, they would have had a minority support, so whatever would have been the outcome today the majority would perhaps have asked us the question why? “We understand that but had to focus on getting the best man for the job based on the criteria we were looking at and Neil is that.” Chairman Alan Bowkett re-emphasised the club’s long-term ambition to be established in the Premier League, saying: “The ambition of this football club is to be competitive in the top half of the Premier League. “We believe we can establish, from the way we are managing this football club, a club that can compete for a European place and win a trophy. “The possibility of winning the Premier League in the current financial circumstances is beyond us but we believe we can be in the upper reaches of the Premier League and that’s why we have made this appointment today.” Malky Mackay, Gianfranco Zola and Neil Lennon were all rumoured to be in the running for the City vacancy, but Bowkett defended the time taken by the board to decided to appoint Adams. “The reason we took longer than we wanted to take was because we did a review of the German market, the Italian market, Spanish market, the whole of the British Isles, to find the candidate who stood the best chance of getting us promotion as soon as possible,” Bowkett said. “And the things we were looking for, as well as experience, is some of the basic things such as coaching skills, leadership, vision hard work, a progressive attitude, hunger for the job and the commitment to do it the Norwich way and Neil easily come top of that in terms of those various attributes.” [/quote]Bowkett knows jack $h!t about football, no mention of an interest in football in his Debretts profile below. He''s just one of Delia''s prawn sandwich munching luvvie friends who happens to be good with a calculator. I doubt him or Fry had ever been to a football match until they got involved with Norwich via Delia.http://www.debretts.com/people-of-today/profile/18765/Alan-John-BOWKETT Recreationsshooting, salmon fishing, opera, everything Italian, growing vegetables.

We should never have had Howson playing on the right side, and should have played one striker with Howson the advanced midfielder. The setup was reasonable until after we went one up, but we should have changed things around after the first half.

This looks suspiciously like club propaganda from one of club''s prawn sandwich munching apologists. After a 20 year decline you think fans are irrational for wanting a man with no league management experience to be replaced?

Lack of midfield cover and poor tactics cost us this one. What does Hooper have to do to get even a sub appearance?

The poor passing, Hooftonesque attack of earlier in the game has come back to haunt us. Should have been 3 up before they scored.

No fresh legs to go into midfield.

Reasonable setup by Adams. Good decision to not bother with wingers and try to dominate midfield.

Too many long hopeful balls by Norwich. We need Howson to run at their defence and play it into our strikers. I''d put Hooper on for Grabban. Johnson looks redundant, but we have no replacement.

Norwich distinctly average, but Forest look very poor. Howson, Tettey and the central defenders are standing out for Norwich. Grabban poor as usual.

Poor start by Norwich, Forest looking the better side so far.

I think the mess we''re in goes way beyond the manager. Lambert was exceptional and seemed to be able to drag the club upwards by sheer force of personality, but the signs of trouble re-emerged very quickly once he was sacked. I don''t think a twenty year decline is going to be reversed just by handing Adams his P45, the problems are a lot more widespread than the manager.

It''s not just Adams, some of the resident football experts posting on here are being found out too. Some people would have had us believe we were watching a beautiful and clever passing game akin to Barcelona under Cruyff, when the more level-headed amongst us were pointing out how poor and ugly it all was.Talk of 100 points, 100 goals and walking the league seems to have given way to a depressing realism that all is not rosy in the Norwich City garden. But we should direct our anger away from Adams and the team, and towards the prawn sandwich munchers that have invaded the upper echelons of the club.Norwich City should be led by football people and have a clear footballing identity, instead it''s become a corporate branding exercise for media luvvies and dubious men in suits.

Quite a few changes needed. I''d start with Adams who''s been sat on the bench for far too long, he needs to slot back into his most effective position ie alongside Chris Goreham in the commentary box. Hopefully he isn''t too rusty after being out for such a long time. After the match we could look at putting Holt, Robson, Smith, Wynn-Jones, Fry and Bowkett on the transfer list.

[quote user="Cheap Cheap Canaries"]Yep theres even a post on there calling for every member of the Board to be sacked , very level headed indeed . You must be trying to drum up some users i was reading you are about 40% down on postings from last month .[/quote]If a Norwich forum packed full of Delia-worshipers is becoming restless then Adams'' days must be numbered.

[quote user="Michael Starr"]"We are on a poor run and still only four points off top." < THIS[/quote]We heard similar last season when we were ''safely'' 4 points or whatever above the relegation zone, or the comforting twaddle about there easily being three worse teams than ourselves. This season these excuses have been converted to their promotion equivalents.The acid test is the quality of the football. In general it''s been poor, no better than Hoofton''s rubbish and miles away from the attractive passing football Adams promised us. If we were trying to be brave and play the classic Norwich way then I''d be arguing for the manager to be given time to develop the team. Instead we''re endlessly hoofing the ball and going absolutely nowhere.

[quote user="mrs miggins"]They''re binners though using this forum, cheap cheap, 1touch, six pack, waveney, - they''re all sad trolls who in truth wish their club was more like ours (in terms of finance and stability and support)[/quote]If I were looking for undercover Ipswich supporters then I''d turn my attentions to those who were on here night and day fervently defending Hoofton, even after he was sacked. Despite fitting this profile to a tee I don''t think you personally are a secret Ipswich fan. It''s much more probable that you''re a plastic who''s totally clueless about football.