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Actually, @Fen Canary has a valid point. Our goals conceded was fantastic but equally Krul did actually have one of the best ever xG saved stats ever seen in the championship. Well, it was the best since this stuff was recorded. We also conceded a much higher xGA than we actually conceded in goals I.e the opposition created a similar amount of quality chances as our first title win under Farke, but didn't take them either missing or Krul saving. Brentford conceded more but their xGA was actually better than ours and when we both got promoted it was certainly clear who actually had the better defensive setup.

Some of our fans are d*ckheads and some of their fans are d*ckheads. Who'd have thought it.

Look Purple, i have always said and maintained, do not read much if anything from pre season. However, I about to throw myself into the river wensum.

At least tag me or you'll be accused of being a little scaredy cat. That we are struggling against a Bundesliga 2 team isn't a credit to BL2 but a criticism of us. And actually, if you ever bothered to actually read anything rather than what you think someone's said, I've agreed multiple times that Tzolis had a fantastic season but it turns out other teams also recognised the limitations of BL2 success, as Brugge were the best team to come knocking

Sorry Lakey but this is very naïve, the PFA are already complaining that the currently packed footballing schedules are to the detriment of players physical and mental health, there's absolutely zero chance of what you're suggesting happening.

Ultimately a lot of it is fan driven. I don't particularly agree with following fan consensus all the time, Webber was particularly strong and his line of "If you can't see what we're building (under Farke) then go and support someone else" will always split supporters but I guarantee Farke appreciated that backing and reinforced his belief he was doing the right things and could progress with it. Fans ultimately weren't happy despite a frankly tremendous second half of the season. Webber eventually left early as he was blamed for fan negativity, which of course remained after he left and only started to repair when guess what, we won games. So this Thorup move only makes sense if Knapper can be strong and back him through inevitable calls for him to be sacked.

Football fans, through thick and then 'eh, my backside.

Unless we think Montoia is a genuine first team candidate (from what I've seen, I'm not sure) then I tend to agree. I assume we also knew for a while what we were / weren't doing with McCallum and Gini - worst case being once we'd lost the play-off semi.

Even more important than the beef is your clear dedication to in-browser management sims. Boxing AND football?

We have a good starting 11 should nothing change now, assuming Doyle is actually done and dusted. But we do again look like a side that doesn't have too much in the way of game-changers from the bench, and with one or two injuries as is common, likely none.

I'm glad it isn't just me. I'm not sure what the criminal aspect really is either, unless generally being a tw*t is a defined crime. But then half this forum....

From a midfielder tasked with generally building up play from between two CBs? Fantastic return I agree Dan.

Well, I don't think McLean is going to be a CB for Thorup, but could be wrong. If we arent going to see Kenny regularly start then, in my opinion, it will be because of a new signing. At the moment, we don't have another midfielder that can do enough of the Kenny stuff AND be better at the non-kenny bits. For me that requires a new signing.

I think its a misconception that is weirdly applied to left-footers more than right-footers. Not you specifically, just a generalisation. Nunez checks onto his right at every opportunity. Gibbs passing stats are poorer than anyone else in midfield for accuracy so even if he is using his weak foot more often its not particularly useful if its passing to the opposition. From what I've seen from pre-season, there's probably been a little OTT analysis applied to Thorups style and like most managers he will adjust to the squad he's got and taking advantage of the best players.

It's not going to be hard to put you right when you go with "dawdle" and "beats a man by luck" There's 3 or 4 of Kennys assists this season that you'll need to watch back where he picks up the ball, drives to create space and threads players through. Two for Sargent one for Sara late against Preston. Of course, one day you'll be right when he moves on but I'm not sure being wrong 5 times and right once is going to pay off! Kenny is one of our better pressers of the ball which is why his interception and possession recovery numbers are better than both Nunez and Sara.

I dont think you're wrong, but I don't think he's really any worse on his weak foot than Nunez, Gibbs or even Sara who is also very keen to play on his left.

Or Kamara, Aboh, Hills, Fisher, Montoia, Welch, etc.

I'd say it'd already clearly very different to Wagner's style.

Normal preseason for 99% of clubs

I agree but rumour is Thorup quite likes him due to being comfortable with ball at his feet.

I'm not convinced constant possession retention is going to bring the best out of Sara. All his best moments have come from us counter attacking and him driving into space, runners like Sarge peeling off, and of course, long range strikes. Reports across the board have said Sara has looked average at best in pre season but I don't think it's a him problem, its probably the reality of the playing style. If anything it may encourage the idea of selling him this window. Again, never worth reading much into preseason but if we are going to try and be some possession dominating side we probably lose a big part of Sara and Sargents for that matter, game.

Match going fans should never be apologised and refunded for bad performances.

Good girl!

Before reading a thread you can predetermine which "norwich fans" will be bigging up those down the road. Its like clockwork.

At least my shots were on target! P.S - On a completely random note, I refuse to read anything on this forum below 14px font size.