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[quote user="Indy"]Yes, to a point, but I do think & believe in making constant improvement which means getting new people with new ideas to push the club forwards. There are too many pensioners on this board who really need to take a back seat and bring on young dynamic people to push the club on.[/quote] Surely the young dynamic people are on the pitch. They are the ones who are currently not performing !!!!!

I have the same opinion as Pete. Presumably he has lost interest because we turned down his transfer wishes. Displays none of the enthusiasm and commitment of last year. Garrido more than good enough for the Championship.

Not at the game but surprised he was subbed. His strength in the middle must have been missed particularly with Johnson not playing. This was then followed by moving Howson wide left. Poor decisions, nearly thought Hughton was in charge again. Very worrying result with the impression given that we did not seem up for the game at all.

[quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="The Polar Bears Made Me Do It"]I''ve often wondered what is the point of "quoting" another post and adding nothing to it. Pointless. I know some of you get very aroused by your post count and the kudos you perceive (interestingly, no one else does) that bestows. Any way, well done you![/quote] Just how often since the 15th September have you wondered about this... Oh and forget Ed Balls. What about Richard Balls? He''s usually wheeled out amongst the pitchforks and torches... [/quote] That''s a load of BALLS.

[quote user="nutty nigel"]Long lapsed supporter did you say VOS? And can you be sure he hasn''t come out of the closet since his last game... Serious question buddy - Do you know what Stefan Philips does?[/quote] Well I thought he was fairly influential being a Director of Archant. BUT I see no sign of him on the website. Can''t help, but I suspect you know the answer !!!

Without delving too deeply in to the previous post in 2013 it would appear to me that our involvement is basically providing the land on which the Hotel was built. Presumably the Company borrowed too much for the development work, as usual, and could not service the debt from the Holiday Inn rent. So we were the joint landlords but the ownership is now in the hands of the administrators. It is now their responsibility to find a new buyer to purchase the land and the Hotel to pay off some of the company debt. Money probably owed to someone like Northern Rock !! It would not surprise me to learn that the Club are involved in complicated discussions to do a deal with the administrators and also buy out the Holiday Inn lease. Then knock down some of the Hotel and provide extra terracing. At the right price this could turn out to be a good deal for the Club. These negotiations will probably drag on for some time. On the other hand someone could come along and buy the freehold for a song and continue to take a nice income off the Holiday Inn. However there is probably a covenant somewhere which states the Club has some control over who can buy the land and property. An interesting question for Mr. Bowkett but I would not expect him to reply for "commercial reasons". Lots of ifs and buts.

Without delving too deeply in to the previous post in 2013 it would appear to me that our involvement is basically providing the land on which the Hotel was built. Presumably the Company borrowed too much for the development work, as usual, and could not service the debt from the Holiday Inn rent. So we were the joint landlords but the ownership is now in the hands of the administrators. It is now their responsibility to find a new buyer to purchase the land and the Hotel to pay off some of the company debt. Money probably owed to someone like Northern Rock !! It would not surprise me to learn that the Club are involved in complicated discussions to do a deal with the administrators and also buy out the Holiday Inn lease. Then knock down some of the Hotel and provide extra terracing. These negotiations will probably drag on for some time. On the other hand someone could come along and buy the freehold for a song and continue to take a nice income off the Holiday Inn. An interesting question for Mr. Bowkett but I would not expect him to reply for "commercial reasons"

[quote user="nutty nigel"]I find your responses odd too VOS. You seem to be happy to try to put a spanner in the works of the harmonious successful board because you don''t like Stephen fry? Who are these supporters who could bring more to the board and where were they in 1995 and 2009? The OP clearly doesn''t want to drink with me so I''ll buy you a drink instead at the agm. :)[/quote] Well it looks as if the "very old stirrer" will have to name someone to replace Fry. Now lets think, who are we looking for. Long standing established supporter and shareholder, loyal and experienced, fully committed to the Club, worth a Bob or Two. Why has it taken me so long, there is the obvious person sitting in the wings. The err Halvergate Builder - now whats his name !! I remember, the great Robert Chase. Sure he''s not a luvvie. That suggestion should keep the thread running for another week. Thank you and goodnight !!!!

I find some of the responses on this thread rather odd. I am quite happy with the main Board Members i.e. Delia, Hubby and Michael Foulger and just because we have the opportunity to make a vote against Stephen Fry, some people want to interpret this as "rocking the boat". This is not the case at all. There are many long standing supporters who could make a better contribution than Stephen purely to put their experience in the game to good use. On the other hand I doubt if there are many who would want that involvement. The point is he is only there because of his celebrity status. I believe he put no money in to the Club. I suppose we could always get Russell Brand to take his place.

[quote user="alartz"]Does seem lambert is nothing without Culverhouse and karsa. Only scored 4 goals in 9 games.[/quote] Yes I thought the same. Normally Lambert would be urging his team on from the touchline but tonight he was a completely different person and seemed to just sit there in silence. Gave the impression he has lost interest in Villa. Another managerial change looming. Thought Fer had a decent game.

I carry no particular grudge against Stephen Fry but if it is put to me as a shareholder to vote for his re-election then surely I should use my vote and if necessary state my reasons why. As many contributors have stated he adds nothing to the Board and rarely attends any Meetings or matches. Needless to say being a "Norfolk Boy" I do not get excited about the worth of "celebrity luvvies". I am sure there are several long standing supporters who could make worthwhile contributions. If I was on the Board a couple of years ago and was asked to make an observation on transfers in, then I could have saved the Club £8 million on one player !!!

I will be at the AGM and I will certainly not vote for him. He is simply a "celebrity" and I cannot see that he brings anything to the Club. I find it difficult to suggest that he has any qualities to be a director of a Football Club. Albeit that there are many similar characters who have found there way on to the Boards of other Clubs. I accept he is often away on various projects and is unable to attend meetings, but then he should resign for that reason. There must be a long standing supporter who would be a far better choice.

Looking at the quality of the opposition so far this season I feel the defence is quite adequate. More so when Ryan Bennett returns. Yes we have been hit by a number of soft breakaway goals partly because of the more attacking options we have displayed. Slightly disappointed to see Ruddy has often been beaten from shots outside the penalty area. Part of the problem is he is seeing little activity for most of the games. Agree our main concern is lack of quality with the final ball in to the penalty area. In this respect we are too predictable and very often a sole striker is covered by four defenders or more. Most teams are struggling to contain Redmond but he still remains poor with his crossing.It was very noticeable last night that Cameron and Lafferty were crying out for the occasional long ball to be played for them to run on to, but it was barely tried. Once we see some improvement in the final delivery, plus a little more luck, this squad looks much stronger than most of the other sides and should be capable of achieving promotion.

Interesting to see that some people want to drop Whittaker and Martin. Perhaps they should bear in mind that a few days ago they both had very good games against the Polish national team. They are not likely to come across similar strong sides in the Championship. Our problems are some erratic crossing, mainly from Redmond, and Jerome alone will have difficulty in scoring against a packed defence.

QPR just did not seem motivated at all. Most of the players strolled around and did not look particularly interested. How long has Arry got left ?? As regards Leroy Fer when I switched on it was about 15 mins before his name was mentioned. I did not see the whole of the match but he looked very casual and made only one decent pass. We certainly did a good bit of business so far as he was concerned.

Noticed Adams called them over in second half and appeared to give them a right rollicking about not closing down quick enough on several occasions.

It was game we should have one comfortably but again a lot of poor finishing cost us dearly. I have to say we started full of confidence and saw plenty of quality attacking football. Jerome was running down the channels and causing all sorts of problems. We were making good use of the long ball but time and time again Hoolahan slowed things down by making short passes to players already closely marked and was muscled off the ball quite a lot. I have some sympathy with Ruddy with the first goal because it was a big deflection off Turner and the ball was spinning viciously. The secondhalf team change was well timed. Murphy had some good forward runs but I agree with others that he looked devoid of energy and lacklustre once he lost possession. But he was an improvement on Wes. As for Jerome he was a revelation. Always looking for the ball plus two great finishers. Pity he did not get his deserved hat trick. Noticed that he was always encouraging the younger players. On this performance better than Grant Holt at his best. The coaching staff seem to be getting to grips with Redmond. His crossing and corners being much better. Very dangerous when cutting inside. Overall looking very competent and organised for this division.

Plenty of "Sky Hype" before the game. Did not watch all of the match but did not seem to be much involved. Still a one paced player and do not see him giving us any great problems. Presumably still a decent finisher but from what I saw today never given any opportunities. Great goal from the Forest striker.

Lightweight and defensive qualities poor. Very rarely made a strong determined tackle. These weaknesses could have been partly overlooked if he was an attacking threat - but he wasn''t. Had to go.

Agree with Pete. If anything is not as good as when he first joined us. People keep suggesting he is young and will improve but to date has shown no evidence of becoming a better player - and this is despite competing against lesser defenders etc. Reminds me of Wright-Phillips and Lennon who can be very pacey and exciting but never produce much or score many goals. Our problem for some time is that we rarely look like scoring and this was again evident yesterday. I would take a good offer and take a chance on the Murphys.

If we actually rec''d close on 5 million that''s very good business. Very injury prone but in my opinion went missing on the pitch in several games. Well done McNally !!!

[quote user="GJP"]How can someone say "Martin - steady not much to do"? He HAD to win the header for their goal but when it really mattered he was nowhere near it.[/quote] Still believe the defence was never under much pressure and the Wolves miss near the end summed up their lack of ability up front. Wolves never carried much of a threat but they did at least ping over some crosses and during 90 mins there is always the chance they would get one right. We were "Hughton like". Never looked like scoring.

What I found so frustrating as the whole performance and style of play was exactly as under Hughton. Wolves had very little threat up front and yet the midfield stuck deep for most of the match. We had no creativity in midfield and carried very little attacking impetus. Time and time again short passes were made to heavily marked players and we never found any pace. Redmond never took on a defender and has a very poor shot and in no way a striker. As usual Surman non-existent but to be fair not much worse than other players.

Ruddy 8 comfortable game Whittaker 3 rarely moved forward - poor passing Martin 5 steady not much to do Turner 6 steady not much to do Ollson 5 lacked pace - average passing Bennett 4 never in game - did not show any pace Johnson 4 fairly anonymous - too defensive Hoolahan 5 very little positive passing - just the simple ball Surman 3 barely noticeable Grabban 4 no service but did not look that sharp Redmond 3 shooting continues to be very poor - never took his fullback on Lafferty 6 looked involved and could be useful Overall seemed as if nothing has changed since the Hughton era

I thought Adams got the tactics right and brought on Redmond at the correct time. A late breakaway goal was really our only option. Interesting to see Ryan Bennett was a useful alternative with his long throws. Why did the previous coaching staff never recognise this !! Overall a gutsy performance but I am afraid the quality of our football throughout the game clearly showed why we will be relegated. The passing was dreadful and only one penetrating ball played for the whole of the match. Numerous short suicidal balls and possession conceded time and time again. A lot of passing back again. Little running off the ball and general lack of pace throughout the team. In terms of quality we have been in gradual decline from the day Hughton arrived, and in his tenure I cannot think of any player who has improved. Most of them have gone backwards. We probably have the players to perform decently in the Championship but we need much improved management and coaching staff.