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I wouldn''t worry about us losing players in January if what I heard at the game today is true, apparently Mr Foulger is putting his hand in his pocket to the tune of a couple of million quid for the transfer window and the only players likely to be leaving are the ones Lambert doesn''t want. Comes from someone who has connections with Foulger and has never been wrong before.

Somwhere in the region of a thousand for me.

The only reason Huddersfield looked so good in the first half was because we stood back and watched them play, as soon as we woke up in the second half we were far to good for them. They do seem to move the ball around quicker than any other side we have faced but in truth if we were on our game in the first half as much as the second we''d have won 5 or 6 nil. I personally don''t thnk 3-0 flattered us at all because we caused them far more problems during our dominance in the second period than they had caused us in the first. I thought Brighton looked more dangerous in the first 20 minutes when we played them than Huddersfield did at any time yesterday.

Last time I remember being as cold as I was today was the 1-0 loss to Southend on Boxing day 1996.

I thought that we made Huddersfield look better then they were in the first half because we were so lethargic and stood off them far to much. When we finally got our act together in the last 35 minutes and got in their faces they couldn''t handle it and we could quite easily have scored two or three more.

It''s unfair to be to critical of any player for having the bottle to take a pen but there are certain players you have no confidence in and Gill is one of them. Fair play to all of them who volunteered.

[quote user="Jen_Jen (:"]Blame Whoever Took Their Eye Off The Game In The Last 10seconds![/quote/] Spot on, according to Salako the goal was down to us giving the ball away with some sloppy play and they end up equalising with the last kick of the game. Whoever gave the ball away should have been hoofing it as far away from our goal as possible at that late stage, so bloody annoying to concede such a late goal and then end up losing on pens. Not overly bothered about that competition but a 2 legged semi final and the final would probably have netted us a million quid, a trip to Wembley would''ve been nice as I haven''t yet been to the new a Wembley. On the plus side it sounds like we were the better team over the ninety minutes.

Yeovil have been playing ok recently but if we are serious about catching the top 2 we should be winning games like this, the encouraging thing for me is that we managed to score 3 goals away from home while playing poorly and didn''t lose the game. Our defence is still a worry though, definitely 2 points dropped for me although I''d have taken a point when their third goal went in.

[quote user="AVFC-NCFC"]We always are quiet and sing the same old songs.[/quote] Can''t argue with that, the songs that are sung have become all to boring and preditable and there''s more noise in a library than inside Carrow Road at times.

I was in block m of the Jarrolds library and the Barclay were very quiet in the first half but did improve a bit in the second, having said that considering the form we have been in and the fact we were 2-0 up it was still a disappointing atmosphere.

[quote user="grantroederdisaster"] If we are serious about going up this season then we can''t afford to sell any of our 1st team particularly 2 of the best players in Docherty and Russell!   Some idiots don''t ever see the realism about Doc - He has been outstanding in most games hes played this season and in his whole Norwich career has had far more good games than bad games!   Another poster mentions the fact we''ve sold good players before like Mackay and Hucks!   Look where selling them 2 got us - We replaced Mackay with the smaller and less capable at CB Simon Charlton and missed Mackays leadership and threat from corners and free kicks into the oppositions box!   Hucks was still by far our best attacking threat when Roedernowhere released him for reasons that wern''t about money or football. I think with Hucks in the side last season we could of avoided relegation!   The only players who should go are:  Theodropalot - not good enough and we''ve got other goalkeeping options!   Gill - Not good enough and theirs plenty of midfielders anyway!   Otsemobor - If Martin signs on cause we''ve also got Spillane and Francomb.   Cureton - Over the hill and if we can get a replacement then he''ll be surplus. [/quote] Agree with all that but I''d add Mcveigh to your list, never should have been signed in the first place.

I can take losing but when they play like they don''t give a damn it is not good enough, we all know that we haven''t got a hope in hell of winning the cup but if we had reached the next round we could have made another half a million quid with a televised game against a prem team and that is a lot of money for a club that is always pleading poverty. Just hope we can beat Sarfend on Tuesday but we never seem to do that well there so a win is far from a certainty.

[quote user="morty"]Lets face it, its not going to happen. If you look at the population demographic of Norfolk then there just aren''t enough people here to get those kind of figures week in - week out. Its frankly a miracle that we get the figures that we do. And I think this is the main reason that we suffer in attracting investment, we have reached our peak, theres no expandability that will increase the revenue. Don''t get me wrong, I''d love to see 40,000 in Carrow road but I doubt the day will come.[/quote] I''ve been inside CR with more than 35k many times during the 70''s, when  there were fewer people around here. With over 800k people living in Norfolk and many other fans scattered atound  the country it is more than possible to get 35k. Just because our average crowd is 25k it doesn''t mean that''s all the fans we have, there are plenty of people who would go if we were even a mid table prem club. I say good on Mcnally for actually bigging us up for a change instead of constantly playing the little old Norwich rubbish.

Six foot two eyes of blue Grant Holt will murder you....la la la la. Same tune as the old Duncan Forbes song.

[quote user="Mister Chops"]An entertaining match with bizarre and irritating refereeing throughout which disrupted the flow.  I actually think this worked in our favour because for long periods of the first half Brighton looked a very decent side on the counter attack and pressed us hard up until we went 3-1 up with a wicked Lappin free kick which caused all kind of problems in the box, and then Brighton fell apart.  Highlight was their goalkeeper taking a free kick 5 yards from the left hand touchline and slicing it straight out of play. 4-1 flattered us, Brighton looked a good side but short on confidence.  Their goal appeared to come from a misdirected shot which hit another one of their players who had the sense to square it for a tap-in.  Both sides were lucky to finish with 11 on the pitch after some handbags threatened to spill over into an Arsenal-Norwich style fight club. The linesmen had absolutely no balls at all and relied on the ref to give everything.  However, to say he was pedantic, fussy and over-controlling would be like saying Cumbria''s a bit wet at the moment. Anyhow.  We weren''t at our best but we were good enough.  I still think 4-1 flattered us though. Forster - 6.5 Drury - 7 Doc - 6.5 Askou - 7 Semi - 6 - the number of times he appeared to forget where he was makes me wonder if he has serial amnesia.  Closed down time after time after time. Russell - 7.5 - thought he would be sent off but the yellow card seemed to improve his game Smith - 6.5 Lappin 7.5 MoM - some great set piece deliveries and solid all through the match Hoolahan - 7 Holt 7.5 Martin 7 Brighton physio - 3 - looked like our old fitness coach and had the pace of Jan Molby on valium. [/quote] I don''t think 4-1 flattered us at all, according to the stats we had 60% posession and even though Brighton looked dangerous in the first half I always felt that we would score every time we attacked. My only critisicm of us is that we try and overplay when we get to within shooting distance when a shot would be the better option, Wes is the biggest culprit but it''s unfair to be overly critical with us playing so well and scoring so many goals. Brighton looked one of the better sides to come here this season but we were quite simply far to good for them and beat them comfortably in the end.

[quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="kdncfc"] I know it''s easy to spend money that you don''t have but I honestly think I would buy the club if I could afford it, if I was worth 500 million at 47 years old as I am now there is no way I''d spend that much money in my lifetime. As long as I had enough money to live on and look after my sons and immediate family I would get far more pleasure seeing the team I have supported all my life in the premier league than leaving it in the bank till the day I die. [/quote] Well I''d wish you good luck with that. If I was that rich I wouldn''t have a problem losing a few million on the football club. My problem would be with all the kdncfc''s in the world who said I was not a fit and proper person after  I''d lost it.[;)]   [/quote] I don''t think people would have any reason to call you an unfit and improper person if you invested a couple of hundred million in the club because if you employed a decent manager to spend the money you''d almost definitely end up as an established prem club, if on the other hand you invested a paltry 10 million over a 15 year period that would be an entirely different matter.

[quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="cityangel"][quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="kdncfc"] [quote user="Bobert"][quote user="Duncan Edwards"]What was she doing there? Was it on telly???[/quote] I think she goes to every game unless she is working or on holiday. A true fan.[/quote] True fan she may be, a fit and proper majority shareholder she most certainly is not. [/quote] Are you now suggesting that Delia Smith is not a fit and proper person to own out club? Highlight the mistakes by all means but some of the stuff posted on here is plain ridiculous.   [/quote]   So are you happy with her being majority share owner Nutty and do you feel that her and her hubby have done a good job these past few years? [/quote] Angel - read the quotes that you quoted. I am saying that I believe she is a fit and proper person to own our football club. After kdncfc stated that she most certainly was not. If you agree that she is not then surely the onus is on you to give the reasons why. As to whether I''m happy with her being majority shareholder - well I''m neither happy or unhappy. I don''t have a say. It''s not like she''s my MP and I could vote for someone else is it? I certainly couldn''t get my hands on a few million quid to buy her out and even if I could I wouldn''t. There is no way I''d do what she has done. I love going to football and supporting my team and I can''t imagine what it must be like to watch my team be relegated seeing the money I have worked hard for all my life go to the players and managers responsible and then have my fellow fans use me as a scapegoat for their disappointments. Have they done a good job over the years? The people working for them haven''t so they have to take some responsibility for that. What do you think Angel?   [/quote] I know it''s easy to spend money that you don''t have but I honestly think I would buy the club if I could afford it, if I was worth 500 million at 47 years old as I am now there is no way I''d spend that much money in my lifetime. As long as I had enough money to live on and look after my sons and immediate family I would get far more pleasure seeing the team I have supported all my life in the premier league than leaving it in the bank till the day I die.

[quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="kdncfc"] Doomcaster may have been partly to blame for the decline of the club but I refuse to believe that he was allowed to make decisions without being given the go ahead by Delia and the board. Things may be run differently now but we will only progress so far without a new owner with more money coming in, there are more youngsters coming through the ranks now than we''ve had for sometime which is good but money will still be needed to sign a bit of quality to supplement them if we get back to the championship. [/quote] Well you may be right but surely we could have saved on the Chief Execs wages if he wasn''t allowed any say. I hope the new one is. I agree that a new owner more capable of investing money is needed for us to progress very far in todays game. I think Smith&Jones agree with that too and have probably been saying it longer than you and I. But I ask again what makes Delia Smith not a fit and proper person to own our club?   [/quote] Can''t see how anyone who goes onto the pitch sozzled on sherry and starts shouting "come on lets be avin you" at 25k people can be classed as a fit and proper person to run this football club lol. On a more serious note maybe not fit or proper was the wrong terminology to use under the circumstances, but imo she''s no longer the right person to run this club because the last few years under her ownership have been a complete disaster and she doesn''t have enough money to take us to where we ought to be.

[quote user="nutty nigel"][quote user="kdncfc"] I can''t see how anybody who owns a business that goes downhill so badly under their leadership can still be classed as a suitable person to continue running that business, football has changed but it has to be said that the amount of bad decisions made in the last few years by Delia and her disciples has been totally unacceptable and the situation we find ourselves in should not have happened. Things are looking up this season but if we reach the championship it will become even more imperative that we get a new owner if we are to progress further imo. [/quote] The fact that Delia owns the business doesn''t mean she runs it. As I understand it the business is now run by McNally. There''s no doubt that mistakes have been made and in my view the biggest was not replacing the person who ran the business sooner. In fact would it maybe have been more prudent to have replaced the person running the business a few years ago? But surely none of those mistakes stop Delia Smith being a fit and proper person to own our football club.   [/quote] Doomcaster may have been partly to blame for the decline of the club but I refuse to believe that he was allowed to make decisions without being given the go ahead by Delia and the board. Things may be run differently now but we will only progress so far without a new owner with more money coming in, there are more youngsters coming through the ranks now than we''ve had for sometime which is good but money will still be needed to sign a bit of quality to supplement them if we get back to the championship.

I can''t see how anybody who owns a business that goes downhill so badly under their leadership can still be classed as a suitable person to continue running that business, football has changed but it has to be said that the amount of bad decisions made in the last few years by Delia and her disciples has been totally unacceptable and the situation we find ourselves in should not have happened. Things are looking up this season but if we reach the championship it will become even more imperative that we get a new owner if we are to progress further imo.

[quote user="Bobert"][quote user="Duncan Edwards"]What was she doing there? Was it on telly???[/quote] I think she goes to every game unless she is working or on holiday. A true fan.[/quote] True fan she may be, a fit and proper majority shareholder she most certainly is not.

I once sat behind a women in her 70''s in the old south stand who spent the entire game knitting.

[quote user="Dean Coney''s Arse"]Best was definitely the Southampton 1/4 final. Was a replay wasn''t it? As for the worst, agree Sunderland but Everton was also worst memory for what happened at Hillsborough.[/quote/] I think that Southampton game was a replay because I was at the Dell for the first game which was a 0-0 bore draw, I also seem to remember Razor Ruddock getting sent off that night. My most memorable FA cup match was against Sheff. Utd in the late eighties when Brian Deane and Tony Agana played up front for them, we won 3-2 in the end but considering they were a third division side their pace and power up front caused us no end of problems and the result was in doubt until the final whistle. A rip roaring cup tie in front of 26k with an atmosphere to match. Many bad memories but the worst for me were from the early eighties.... our defeats at Derby, West Brom and Brighton in the latter stages of the competition were all painful at the time.  

[quote user="Big Ginge"] Unfortunately have to suffer Most Haunted Live with the wife. Anyone else noticed that the spiritualist bloke ''Chris'' both looks (in night vision at least!) and sounds like Paul Lambert? [/quote] Sadly my wife and teenagers also watch Most Haunted but thankfully I have Sky multiroom and a large screen telly upstairs so I can bugger off and watch something else, it would drive me mad if I had to spend eight nights watching that. Thankfully there''s only two more nights to endure.

If there''s less than a hundred seats avaliable they will probably all sell before the match so I''d guess we may get close to or above 25k depending on how many tickets Swindon don''t sell.