Norwich make bid for Snodgrass

stoke canary · July 20, 2012

Tight hamstring says Warnock, according to Twitter

Mr Brownstone · July 20, 2012

@PhilHayYEP: No Snodgrass tonight. Warnock says he''s got a tight hamstring but also wanted to spare him from speculation and attention after Norwich bids

@PhilHayYEP: Snodgrass still due to go to Devon and Cornwall. Warnock says Norwich haven''t met valuation and he doesn''t want to sell #lufc

Wonder if Colin has a scan to prove it?

Twitchy · July 20, 2012

So second bid not good enough either then shame that, maybe we can get him on a free next year.

andy cousins · July 20, 2012

they are talking about the first offer and not the one today, they are expecting to get arond 2.5 million from look of things

Morisons Prozac · July 20, 2012

[quote user="Twitchy"]So second bid not good enough either then shame that, maybe we can get him on a free next year.[/quote]What makes you think we won''t bid again?

JF · July 20, 2012

Seems we put in an initial offer of 1.5 million they want 3 million and our 2nd was 2 million. Meet in the middle at 2.5 then.

Twitchy · July 20, 2012

Maybe we will Prozac but McNally & Co. give the impression that they like to be the ones in control of things and if they feel Leeds are taking the piss just trying to sucker Norwich and others into a bidding war then we will probably start to look elsewhere.

ricardo · July 20, 2012

[quote user="JF"]According to posters on WACCOE the new bid has been rejected.[/quote]The second bid has not been rejected and there is nothing on WACCOE to suggest this. Most Leeds fans think he will go, they seem more concerned with the non existent news about the takeover.I find it strange that if they are on the verge of a multi billion pound takeover by oil rich arabs why they don''t just tell us to F£%K OFF. The fact they are considering a bid suggests no takeover is imminent.

JF · July 20, 2012

Yes there is on page 26 of the Snodgrass to Norwich post.

ricardo · July 20, 2012

[quote user="JF"]Yes there is on page 26 of the Snodgrass to Norwich post.[/quote]Its an old quote from Warnock in relation to the original bid. There has been no official rejection of the second offer.In any event it won''t be Warnock who does the accepting or rejecting.

colneycanary · July 20, 2012

If he''s good enough for the prem, he must be worth more than the 3 million Leeds are asking. Just pay them the god damn asking price, and stop playing silly buggers before some other club come in for him!

Evesham Canary · July 20, 2012

Last summer we paid £2M odd apiece for Bennett & Pilkington neither of whom had played much (if at all) in the Champs. Snodgrass has had 2 good seasons in the Champs and has played for Scotland. If it takes £3M to sign him then we should simply stop mucking around pay up and look for a new striker and a couple of defenders. He would be a £5-6M player if he had 2 years on his contract. OK we might get him for £2M in Jan but a lot could happen between now and then!

Boyo · July 20, 2012

3 million is a bargain. Snap him up!

ImDrunky · July 21, 2012

I bought Snodgrass on FIFA 12, if NCFC do get him I hope he can do this in real life =D http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/127524741I hope we don''t pay over the odds for him, but I would say 3 million is fair, but no higher. I''m still slightly concerned about our defence, so hopefully after this we''ll start looking to strengthening the back.

Six Pack · July 21, 2012

[quote user="priceyrice"][quote user="Salopian"]

This seems to me unlikely on reflection, as we have just bought Butterfield, and we now have Wes, Surs, Pilks, Bennett, Johnson, Crofts, Howson, Fox, Butterfield, Adeyemi, Korey, plus possibly Whittaker.

1) We have 11 above, plus possibly Martin C, - enough to man three four-man midfields, and nearly half the squad. Even if CH dispenses with the services of one or two after his evaluation, how many do we need? There are other areas of the squad where we are short - only three/four strikers plus Martin, two RBs and one LB.

2) Would it be a good investment? Even if the player has only one more year on his contract, we are looking to pay £4m.

3) He is a good player, but is described as a winger without much pace. He is 24 but can he be developed further? Is it a risk to sign him uising a large part of our budget, or is this an attempt to buy survival?

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1- Crofts, Lappin, Adeyami, Smith and maybe even Wes (perhaps an exchange + cash offer here?) are unlikely to be here this coming season- leaving us with, Butterfield, Pilky, Surman, Bennett, Johnson, Howson, Fox - that is a very strong midfield and with Snodgrass could well be one of the best midfields we have ever had (sorry some of you old boys may disagree)

2 - great investment yes- we would get him cheap - only a year left on his contract and at 24 his value is only ever going to increase.

3 - not much pace you are right, but wont take a huge chunk of the budget (around 2-3M same as Howson) but he would greatly imporve our first 11- he is thought to be better than Howson up in Leeds and from watching Leeds he always appeared the better player - if you guys love Howson you are going to love Snodgrass

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Point 3: Love them

?????? This is utter crap!

These are 2 good championship

players that you’ve watched in the championship, played well against lower

opposition and you come on here creating all this hype and making out they are

better than they actually are!

It happened with

Howson in January. Poster’s like yourself and "smooth" feed us all this

bullshit of how wonderful he was – an attacking midfielder - I didn’t know what to expect. I had this

notion he was going to cut the opposition to threads and score 2 or 3 goals every

game. The possibilities & excitement were mind blowing & overwhelming.

In the first game against Stoke I expected us to annihilate them – Howson was

in the attacking midfield role, what happens – we mustered one shot all game !

The goal that won it for Stoke was how I expected Howson to score a goal. Newcastle

– one of their defenders makes a blunder – Morrison sets up Howson for an open

goal. When I saw to ball passed to Howson I instinctively thought 1 – 1. Had to

make a second take, couldn’t believe it missed! Liverpool at home – you could

feel the game with over as soon as they scored.

We were 8^th

solid on the ladder when Howson came into the side as attacking mid. With his signing

I dreamt of a top 6 finish. Sadly Lambert needed to reintroduce old formations again

to bring us goals.

Don’t get me wrong

I have great admiration for Howson, he has equal defensive and attacking ability,

fast, gives 100% or more effort in every match he played, and chases down other

peoples mistakes. But overall I was

disappointed because of the expectation that was created – not his fault. He

could not break down these premiership defences. One pass to Morrison in the

Arsenal game just isn’t enough. Attacking mid is not Howson’s position, but he

does suit defensive mid.

Still they (posters)

continue – Howson will play for England, Howson should be captain, Howson would

have been play of the year if played more games, put into hall of fame – after 11

games !!!!!. Howson to have”big” year

for us – I’ll believe when I see it !

So Snodgrass plays

for Scotland – is he an Archie Gemmill ? Have you made up your mind what

position he plays - Wing? attacking mid?

– like Howson .

Where are the

other bidders ? Maybe after Howlett & Moses like we should be. You need to

come out of your fantasy, open your eyes, you’ll find you in the premiership !

I’m sick & tired of you talking up

players and “bashing” our best players.

I was looking through the Leeds and Liverpool

websites to search about Snodgrass & Pacheco and was surprise to learn that

the fans of these clubs consider Hoolahan as our best player. I know the guy’s

5 foot tall, has short back & sides and is over 30 and doesn’t look like a

footballer - but is that a reason to dislike him? When the majority of the

26,000 that attend our matches, Paul Lambert and third party/neutral fans think

he’s good, that’s good enough for me! You’re really pathetic! - everytime an

outfield player from another club is available he’s a possible replacement for

Hoolahan.

If you think you

could score 52 goals & amass 47 points without Hoolahan and the likes of Fox,

E Bennett & Pilkington your pissing into a 100 knot gale !!!

Stop talking up average players and stop

f*cking attacking the players that actually got us the points & 12^th

place in the division!

Let alone got us into the premiership in

the first place!

Mahogany · July 21, 2012

Snodgrass strikes me a as a signing because it is a good deal rather than because we need him, but that''s not a knock against him.

We are very strong in midfield but given the chance to sign one of the best players in the Championship over the last couple of years for relative peanuts we should jump at the chance. Competition is usually a good thing and it gives us more options and insurance in case of injuries.

As for the post above saying we should be going for Moses instead, Wigan want 10m for Moses and half the time he is pretty useless. He''s basically a less talented N''Zogbia and I expect he''ll do about as well after he gets his big money move.

Theres only one Martin Peters! · July 21, 2012

I think Snoddy would be a v good acquisition, he''s a winger and we''ve only got 2, Pilks and E Benno. Lets face it Leeds wanted to build their team around him and if Lambert wanted him that endorses the view that he must be good.

I agree that Hoolahan has been great for us, for my money we''re certainly not looking to replace him at the mo. However, he is most effective playing at the tip of the diamond, and CH has gone on record as saying he prefers 442 or 4411, so the latter would be Hooly''s best opportunity, playing off the striker, but he''s not as effective playing that role as the tip of the diamond due to his lack of pace. As the diamond has been our most effective formation for the last 3 seasons, CH will surely still use this from time to time and Wes will continue to shine.

Regarding the players rated most highly by opposition fans, there is an interesting thread on the West Ham fans message board asking them to nominate the opposition''s best player, and most in our case go for Holt, Ruddy & Pilkington with one or 2 saying Hoolahan.

I think Howson will be a great player for us, he has shown all the right attributes, but like everyone Neymar, Rooney etc, they all miss sitters from time to time.

smooth · July 21, 2012

Six Pack - Howson was superb last season and rightly was a guaranteed starter once he joined. I have no problem and greatly admire our championship squad and promotion squad but there is such need to improve. Howson a young player came in and walked into our first team he was an upgrade.Yes he did not score a hatful of goals but he and RB have had half a season to settle and over the next few years will develop into good players with a value that increases and ability that will improve. Howson should glimpses of what he can do and still stood out as our best central midfielder. He was, as every other player, playing to the system etc. Once he is given a little more of an attacking role he will have the goals etc. It took Hoolahan all season to begin to have some good stats.I will be hyper critical of our players, because you have to be in this league. You will be comparing our starting 11 to the other 20 teams starting 11 for quality. You do look to cover weaknesses and transfer windows allow you to do that, training does and we have seen players improve such as Hoolahan. It is interesting that people consider our best player to be our luxury player Hoolahan, I believe Pilky with a bigger role and can take that mantle. I just don''t think Hoolahan will be a starter next season and I do not think he is a player who warrants a starting position and plays better from the bench.Back to Snodgrass, he will walk into our first team plans. He has quality and our ethos set up by Lambert now can be added to by adding great players. In the past we added the best championship players to keep us up. Let''s hope we do this.

Tangible Fixed Assets anyone? · July 21, 2012

[quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="Tangible Fixed Assets anyone"]

While Purple Canary forgets the fact that a club with our resources and "gates" shouldn''t be getting relegated to the third tier of football for the first time in fifty years.

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Probably not the best idea to try to guess what I forget and what I remember. As to your point, as I explained in a long post a few months ago the surprise was not that we ended up in the third tier, but that we avoided that fate for so long. As shown by this list (which leaves out a few examples) of 24 similar-sized and bigger clubs who dropped down that far before we did:

Villa, Man City, Stoke, Fulham, Blackpool, Bolton, Blackburn, WBA, Birmingham, Wolves, QPR, Forest, Leeds, Cardiff, Leicester, Burnley, Derby, Middlesbrough, Portsmouth, Sheffield Utd, Southampton, Charlton, Sheffield Wednesday and Preston.

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Oh sorry I didn''t realise that you had posted months ago on this issue....may be you can provide readers a list of links to relevant posts when you post in future. Thanks.

Getting back to this thread, out of the list you provide Purple, I think you will find that QPR., Preston, Burnley and Blackpool probably had smaller resources / "gates" than us when they got relegated and there may be more in that list but I am not going to spend time working out which clubs had bigger or similar sized resources / "gates".

We just drifted into the third tier of football, what caused the others to reach the third tier, superb leadership?

Tangible Fixed Assets anyone? · July 21, 2012

[quote user="smooth"]I believe the spine ofthe team needs help, centre half, central midfield and striker. But I also agree full back may be needed as is a wide player.

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Left back, centre back and a striker would be my priority followed by a pacy right back (may be Naughton in January 2013) , a pacy winger and a defensive midfield player.

PurpleCanary · July 21, 2012

[quote user="Tangible Fixed Assets anyone"][quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="Tangible Fixed Assets anyone"]

While Purple Canary forgets the fact that a club with our resources and "gates" shouldn''t be getting relegated to the third tier of football for the first time in fifty years.

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Probably not the best idea to try to guess what I forget and what I remember. As to your point, as I explained in a long post a few months ago the surprise was not that we ended up in the third tier, but that we avoided that fate for so long. As shown by this list (which leaves out a few examples) of 24 similar-sized and bigger clubs who dropped down that far before we did:

Villa, Man City, Stoke, Fulham, Blackpool, Bolton, Blackburn, WBA, Birmingham, Wolves, QPR, Forest, Leeds, Cardiff, Leicester, Burnley, Derby, Middlesbrough, Portsmouth, Sheffield Utd, Southampton, Charlton, Sheffield Wednesday and Preston.

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Oh sorry I didn''t realise that you had posted months ago on this issue....may be you can provide readers a list of links to relevant posts when you post in future. Thanks.

Getting back to this thread, out of the list you provide Purple, I think you will find that QPR., Preston, Burnley and Blackpool probably had smaller resources / "gates" than us when they got relegated and there may be more in that list but I am not going to spend time working out which clubs had bigger or similar sized resources / "gates".

We just drifted into the third tier of football, what caused the others to reach the third tier, superb leadership?

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Well, that''s odd, because you contributed to that earlier thread although, sadly, not that constructively:

http://services.pinkun.com/forums/pinkun/cs/forums/2463549/ShowPost.aspx

As for you deciding not to try to spend time working out if some of those other clubs on my list had smaller gates/resources than us, I am not surprised. A sensible decision. You know perfectly well that the other 20 clubs on that list of 24 that you haven''t mentioned are/were at least as big as us in in terms of which ever category you care to think about - gates, money, resources, history, success etc, and several significantly bigger. Even those four you have picked out as smaller are/were only marginally so, if at all.

RvWs 4 year contract · July 21, 2012

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