zemas tendon 0 Posted July 17, 2009 Southampton name him as new manager................... who would you rather have!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blainsey 2 Posted July 17, 2009 Pardew. Wouldnt be as loyal as Gunn, but what stands for him is he can actually, and has been trained, and has experience, in being a bloody Manager!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hog 0 Posted July 17, 2009 [quote user="Blainsey"]Pardew. Wouldnt be as loyal as Gunn, but what stands for him is he can actually, and has been trained, and has experience, in being a bloody Manager!![/quote] And wasn''t Roeder also "trained" as a manager? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blainsey 2 Posted July 17, 2009 Yes, which was why his record was more successful than Gunns. Would we have gone down with Roeder still in charge? Possibly not... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
When Saturday Comes 0 Posted July 17, 2009 Don''t rate Pardew at all - depending on how much money Saints have, I think he''ll struggle there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Taylor 0 Posted July 17, 2009 Pardew is a relegation specialist. No thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
still holding out for new heroes 0 Posted July 17, 2009 None of the above Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted July 17, 2009 [quote user="Danielt88"]Pardew is a relegation specialist. No thanks.[/quote]And Gunn isn''t?Crumbs, I''d have Pardew here over Gunn in an instant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KCanary 0 Posted July 17, 2009 [quote user="Blainsey"]Pardew. Wouldnt be as loyal as Gunn, but what stands for him is he can actually, and has been trained, and has experience, in being a bloody Manager!![/quote] And how did he gain that experience? Everyone needs to start somewhere. I don''t rate Pardew, i''ll stick by my Gunns (sorry, poor!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
When Saturday Comes 0 Posted July 17, 2009 Really interesting one this - Pardew had a fine reputation while at Reading and during his first year or two at West Ham, but since he has really struggled and most Charlton fans blame him for their demise. He spent silly money on the wrong players. While I''m not the biggest fan of Gunn as manager, I''d still prefer to have him over Pardew. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjwc22 0 Posted July 17, 2009 How is Pardew a relegation specialist? Only time he has seen a team relegated was Charlton and even then they were already bottom and heading down.Did well at Reading and think he will do well at Saints.Would still rather have Gunn though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Pilkington 0 Posted July 17, 2009 Gunn - I think he''s doing an okay job at the moment.But like everyone he''ll e judged on results. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Shuck 183 Posted July 17, 2009 Pardew was an appointment from within the club at Reading when he became their Manager, suspect there were numerous Reading fans objecting to that appointment for the same reasons there is a lot of anti-Gunn sentiment here as regards his appointment as Manager?But every Manager has to start somewhere, even the likes of Ferguson and Wenger had no experience at one time, but someone took a punt on them!Personally, I don''t think Gunn was the right choice, but his tenure cannot be judged yet, no matter how last season ended. And it can''t be judged in September/October either, though, suspect it will have been-and Gunn found guilty-if we are not top two and flying by then?We have all been swift to condemn his appointment and a lot of the signings thus far, saying it reflects the clubs lack of ambition. If it all goes well, we win the Championship and the signings are decent ones, will everyone have been wrong?Like I said earlier, I wasn''t for Gunn''s appointment. But I will wait and see what happens and would love to be proved wrong! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Taylor 0 Posted July 17, 2009 [quote user="Mister Chops"][quote user="Danielt88"]Pardew is a relegation specialist. No thanks.[/quote]And Gunn isn''t?Crumbs, I''d have Pardew here over Gunn in an instant.[/quote] Pardew has two to his name before his big role in last years. One relegation when you only had a few months hardly makes you a specialist like Pardew. I''d rather have Gunn than that particular mercenary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
singing canary 0 Posted July 17, 2009 team "spirit" gunn.hopefully he will put roeders and grants mess right .played 4 won 4 ..!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted July 17, 2009 [quote user="Danielt88"] [quote user="Mister Chops"][quote user="Danielt88"]Pardew is a relegation specialist. No thanks.[/quote]And Gunn isn''t?Crumbs, I''d have Pardew here over Gunn in an instant.[/quote]  Pardew has two to his name before his big role in last years. One relegation when you only had a few months hardly makes you a specialist like Pardew. I''d rather have Gunn than that particular mercenary[/quote] Managerial stats Team Nat From To Record G W L D Win % Reading 13 October 1999 10 September 2003 212 102 57 53 48.11 West Ham United 20 October 2003 11 December 2006 163 67 58 38 41.10 Charlton Athletic 24 December 2006 22 November 2008 89 28 35 26 31.46 Southampton 16 July 2009 Total 463 197 145 123 42.54 Pardew has a very decent record at Reading, reasonable at West Ham. You quote two relegations but fail to mention his successes, of course.Gunn has only relegation on his CV and I fear that''s all he''s capable of delivering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Humphrey 13 Posted July 17, 2009 Well, I''d rather have Pardew than Gunn. But that''s hardly a glowing recommendation for Pardew, either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muddy funster 0 Posted July 17, 2009 Gunn - Pardew is an arsehead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Humphrey 13 Posted July 17, 2009 Two relegations for Pardew? What was the other one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted July 17, 2009 [quote user="Graham Humphrey"]Two relegations for Pardew? What was the other one?[/quote]It''s one relegation for Pardew, surprise surprise. With Charlton.And that season he also took over Charlton around Xmastime, the same reason given by Pro-Gunners for why Gunny isn''t to blame for taking us down as he didn''t have long enough to prove himself..."Pardew''s absence from management lasted less than two weeks when he was appointed manager of Charlton Athletic on Christmas Eve 2006, signing a three-and-a-half year contract.[13]He took over with Charlton in 19th place in the Premier League, withjust 12 points and a –20 goal difference, the lowest in the league.Although Charlton''s form improved under Pardew,[14] he was unable to keep Charlton up, resulting in the first relegation of his career, both as a player and manager."Double standards? On the Pink Un message board? Well, I''ll be.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Taylor 0 Posted July 17, 2009 West Ham and Charlton. And how can you compare a relegation with a mess of a team and right down there with only a few months in charge? That''s just daft quite frankly. Pardew has done very little that I can think would possibly make you want him here. Gunn got relegated but that was in no small way to do with other managers and aspects, he hasn''t even had a season in charge yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Taylor 0 Posted July 17, 2009 [quote user="Mister Chops"][quote user="Graham Humphrey"]Two relegations for Pardew? What was the other one?[/quote]It''s one relegation for Pardew, surprise surprise. With Charlton.And that season he also took over Charlton around Xmastime, the same reason given by Pro-Gunners for why Gunny isn''t to blame for taking us down as he didn''t have long enough to prove himself..."Pardew''s absence from management lasted less than two weeks when he was appointed manager of Charlton Athletic on Christmas Eve 2006, signing a three-and-a-half year contract.[13] He took over with Charlton in 19th place in the Premier League, with just 12 points and a –20 goal difference, the lowest in the league. Although Charlton''s form improved under Pardew,[14] he was unable to keep Charlton up, resulting in the first relegation of his career, both as a player and manager."Double standards? On the Pink Un message board? Well, I''ll be....[/quote] my my, someone over dosed on the smug tablets today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Humphrey 13 Posted July 17, 2009 Still, let''s not bother with such trivial things like facts, eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Taylor 0 Posted July 17, 2009 you really think comparing Gunn''s record is an even handed approach? Sigh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Graham Humphrey 13 Posted July 17, 2009 Er, I never actually said that did I? Just wondering why you''re banging on about a non-existent relegation and conveniently forgetting two promotions too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted July 17, 2009 [quote user="Danielt88"][quote user="Mister Chops"][quote user="Graham Humphrey"]Two relegations for Pardew? What was the other one?[/quote]It''s one relegation for Pardew, surprise surprise. With Charlton.And that season he also took over Charlton around Xmastime, the same reason given by Pro-Gunners for why Gunny isn''t to blame for taking us down as he didn''t have long enough to prove himself..."Pardew''s absence from management lasted less than two weeks when he was appointed manager of Charlton Athletic on Christmas Eve 2006, signing a three-and-a-half year contract.[13] He took over with Charlton in 19th place in the Premier League, with just 12 points and a –20 goal difference, the lowest in the league. Although Charlton''s form improved under Pardew,[14] he was unable to keep Charlton up, resulting in the first relegation of his career, both as a player and manager."Double standards? On the Pink Un message board? Well, I''ll be....[/quote] my my, someone over dosed on the smug tablets today.[/quote]Only because you''d already necked all the "idiot" pills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites