If Sheffield W wins on tuesday ....

[YellowRoad 0]

If Sheffield W wins on tuesday ... v Coventry we will be only 3 point above Southampton ... who will fall into the relegation zone

 

But everybody still seems to be happy ... and confident ...  but I don''t know why ....

[Pete Raven 276]

Yes, IF they win. And with Southampton''s goal difference they''re essentially 4 points behind us.

[Branston Pickle 4,150]

...it is certainly true that it could get a bit tighter before it gets better, but the flipside of a Sheff Wed win on Tuesday would be Coventry needing to glean enough points to get themselves safe from a tough final 5 games that include Watford, Stoke, Wolves and Charlton; to be fair, the other is away to Colchester, but I''d certainly prefer not to have their run in!

 

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="Web Team - Pete"]Yes, IF they win. And with Southampton''s goal difference they''re essentially 4 points behind us.[/quote]

Oh bloody great Pete, we''re now relying on other teams results for our survival are we?.

[PhatCanary 0]

[quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="Web Team - Pete"]Yes, IF they win. And with Southampton''s goal difference they''re essentially 4 points behind us.[/quote]

Oh bloody great Pete, we''re now relying on other teams results for our survival are we?.

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100% spot on wiz, we have really got into a p**s poor position to be relying on other teams to help us out!!!

[Green and Yellow 0]

I can see the trap door of a must win game at Sheffield Wed on the last game of the season and if that is the case NCFC just do not have the resilience for the fight.

[Joanna Grey 0]

[quote user="Phatcanary9"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="Web Team - Pete"]Yes, IF they win. And with Southampton''s goal difference they''re essentially 4 points behind us.[/quote]

Oh bloody great Pete, we''re now relying on other teams results for our survival are we?.

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100% spot on wiz, we have really got into a p**s poor position to be relying on other teams to help us out!!!

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Here, have a GCSE in maths..... It''s not "100% spot on" is it? If we win all our remaining games we won''t go down, we won''t be relying on any other team. That''s a "100% spot on" fact.

[Boyo 0]

Oh dear!  It''s worrying having to rely on other results.

But I think we will still stay up anyway!

[Time to go Delia 0]

Still not sure either way , Burnley and QPR appear to be our best chance of points but Burnley are only 3 points off the play offs so that will be far from easy and Qpr are nobodies pushovers these days .

[Sing Up The South Stand 0]

For crying out loud!  The only teams relying on other results are those in the relegation.  Not us.  How can we rely on other results when we''re not in the drop zone?  And if SW win their games in hand (which I doubt they will) we won''t be in the drop zone.  And 3 points is stil in our own hands.  How anyone can suggest otherwise is beyond me.

If we were in the relegation zone we would be reliant on other results, as we are not it''s impossible to be.  It is in our hands.

[Flipside 0]

Lots of talk on message boards tonight that they named 6 loanees on team sheet...

If this is still valid;

6.4.6 [The maximum number of Short Term Loans will be 8 per Season and Long Term Loans will

be 2 per Season. Whilst a Club may register any number of Work Experience players only

2 may play in any one match in accordance with FA Rules. A Club may name up to a

maximum of 5 players on a team sheet who are either Long Term Loans, Short Term Loans

or Work Experience players with no more than 2 from any one Category.]

Then this applies;

6.8 PLAYING AN INELIGIBLE PLAYER

Any Club found to have played an ineligible player in a match shall have any points gained

from that match deducted from its record and have levied upon it a fine in accordance with

the Fines Tariff. The Company may vary this decision in respect of the points gained only

in circumstances where the ineligibility is due to the failure to obtain an International

Transfer Certificate or in the case of where a substitute player who is ineligible participates

in a match or is listed on the official team sheet but does not participate in that match.

The Board may also order that such match be replayed on such terms as are decided by the

Board which may also levy penalty points against the Club in default.

Make out of that what you will....

[lucky green trainers 0]

imo we gave stoke and bristol 2 good games - make no mistake, they didn''t look worldbeaters - but rode their luck (and our poor finishing more like) to sneak a win and 3 undeserved points.  every game is tough as teak - there are no rollovers.  thats why a point today would''ve been tops for us.  instead, we''re looking around to see whose worse off than us.  i''m sure we''ll get the points we need, cos we''re not playing like relegation fodder -  we will survive. but less face it - we''re in this posi now cos we made a profit in the jan window - and got in young boys to do a mans job.  imo we had a good first 12 who where displaying promotion winning form.  bringing the young''uns in did nothing but weaken a thin squad.  and now we''re paying the price for this p**s poor management.  and forget ''the powder dry'' bollards - i don''t believe roedy sold early in the jan window with the intention of waiting until deadline day to bring in untried and unproven boys.  think about - a reckless gamble with our champs status is unfolding before our eyes - cos we couldn''t or wouldn''t pay the going market rate for experienced, proven players - and even if we did match brums valuation for taylor eventually on deadline day - i''m sure brady and the porn kings had great delight in knocking us back.like i''ve said before, if we scrape in on the last day of the season, then hopsfully the message will get through loud and clear to the board that they must be realistic with roedy''s transfer summer budget.  they need a kick up the behind to get real!!!

[shropshire-lad 0]

I am scared st*tless, it''s my 60''th Birthday in july and I can''t bear the thought of my team being back where they were when I first started supporting them (OK it was 3rd Division South but in my opinion its still the 3rd teir of English Football). Please let''s get through the next 5 games stay in the division and build a team for next saeson. How can a team with the second highest support in the division be in the position we are? Leeds and Forest are down there are we going the same way? It just does not make sense I don''t think sacking the board or the manager is the answer but God knows I wish I knew what it is especially when I see Ips**** seem to keep coming up smelling of roses.

[Sing Up The South Stand 0]

Who is ''they''?

Can''t be us as only 5 were named today.

Pearce and Bertrand in the starting lineup; Rigters, Gibbs and Evans on the bench.

[Baldyboy 1]

they defo had 6 loanees in their squad so have broken the laws of the game. no doubt the fa will wimp out again and just fine them instead of docking points. it will be interesting to say the least especially as one of the loan players scored their equaliser.

[PhatCanary 0]

[quote user="bunny"][quote user="Phatcanary9"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="Web Team - Pete"]Yes, IF they win. And with Southampton''s goal difference they''re essentially 4 points behind us.[/quote]

Oh bloody great Pete, we''re now relying on other teams results for our survival are we?.

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100% spot on wiz, we have really got into a p**s poor position to be relying on other teams to help us out!!!

[/quote]

Here, have a GCSE in maths..... It''s not "100% spot on" is it? If we win all our remaining games we won''t go down, we won''t be relying on any other team. That''s a "100% spot on" fact.

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Got an A in all my GCSE''s thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Win all our remaining games, my arse!!!

[matt crowhurst 0]

who were the 6 players on loan? im presuming you are talking about bristol as we ''only'' had 5. does anbody know the answer to this?

[Graham Humphrey 13]

[quote user="matt crowhurst"]who were the 6 players on loan? im presuming you are talking about bristol as we ''only'' had 5. does anbody know the answer to this?[/quote]

I think he means Sheffield Wednesday.

Didn''t Leeds do something like this last season but only got a fine?

[Mister Chops 7]

[quote user="Graham Humphrey"]

[quote user="matt crowhurst"]who were the 6 players on loan? im presuming you are talking about bristol as we ''only'' had 5. does anbody know the answer to this?[/quote]

I think he means Sheffield Wednesday.

Didn''t Leeds do something like this last season but only got a fine?

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We can but hope one of the "illegal" Sheff Wed loan players also questioned the linesman''s parentage, which will result in a 39 point penalty under the new FA guidelines.

[Citizen Journalist Foghorn 0]

Actually Wednesday only need to draw for us to be 3 points above the drop zone.  But as Pete says Southampton have a terrible goal difference so realistically it is four points still.

[Joanna Grey 0]

[quote user="Phatcanary9"][quote user="bunny"][quote user="Phatcanary9"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="Web Team - Pete"]Yes, IF they win. And with Southampton''s goal difference they''re essentially 4 points behind us.[/quote]

Oh bloody great Pete, we''re now relying on other teams results for our survival are we?.

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100% spot on wiz, we have really got into a p**s poor position to be relying on other teams to help us out!!!

[/quote]

Here, have a GCSE in maths..... It''s not "100% spot on" is it? If we win all our remaining games we won''t go down, we won''t be relying on any other team. That''s a "100% spot on" fact.

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Got an A in all my GCSE''s thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Win all our remaining games, my arse!!!

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How many did you take though? You obviously did not get an "A" in English though because you did not understand my point. You and Wiz seem to think that we are relying on other teams to do us a favour, that is not the case, our survival is in our own hands. It is a mathematical fact that if we win our remaining games we can not be relegated. I did not say that I thought we would win all our games between now and the end of the season, just stating facts. You and Wiz are both wrong, I am right.......end of.

[YankeeCanary 0]

[quote user="bunny"][quote user="Phatcanary9"][quote user="bunny"][quote user="Phatcanary9"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="Web Team - Pete"]Yes, IF they win. And with Southampton''s goal difference they''re essentially 4 points behind us.[/quote]

Oh bloody great Pete, we''re now relying on other teams results for our survival are we?.

[/quote]

100% spot on wiz, we have really got into a p**s poor position to be relying on other teams to help us out!!!

[/quote]

Here, have a GCSE in maths..... It''s not "100% spot on" is it? If we win all our remaining games we won''t go down, we won''t be relying on any other team. That''s a "100% spot on" fact.

[/quote]

Got an A in all my GCSE''s thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Win all our remaining games, my arse!!!

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How many did you take though? You obviously did not get an "A" in English though because you did not understand my point. You and Wiz seem to think that we are relying on other teams to do us a favour, that is not the case, our survival is in our own hands. It is a mathematical fact that if we win our remaining games we can not be relegated. I did not say that I thought we would win all our games between now and the end of the season, just stating facts. You and Wiz are both wrong, I am right.......end of.

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Just would like to add my support to your statement that, indeed, you are correct bunny, and PhatCanary and Wizard are incorrect. PhatCanary, in attempting to underscore his "A" levels in maths, uses almost thirty exclamation marks confirming, at the same time, his weakness in English grammar, therby confirming your suspicion as to why he ( and I suspect many others on similar points of fact ) has difficulty grasping the point being made.

[chicken 0]

16 Blackpool 41 11 17 13 54 53 50 1 17 NORWICH CITY 41 13 10 18 41 51 49 -10 18 Coventry City 40 13 9 18 42 53 48 -11 19 Leicester City 41 11 14 16 39 38 47 1 20 Barnsley 40 11 13 16 43 57 46 -14 21 Southampton 41 11 13 17 49 67 46 -18 22 Sheffield Wednesday 39 12 9 18 41 46 45 -5 23 Scunthorpe 41 9 11 21 38 61 38 -23 24 Colchester United 41 6 15 20 55 76 33 -21

You have to take the table into consideration too. PNE are the team above Blackpool and on 53 points so are safe.Coventry and Barnsley have a game in hand at the moment and Sheffield Wednesday have two. So its not all easy. The teams that are really in it are Southampton and Leicester. Both have no games in hand and Southampton will be effectively two points addrift if you include their goal difference.I have the faith - we will survive and next season Roeder will kick some arse - well either in the league or in our boardroom and then in the league with someone else . . . . .

[PhatCanary 0]

[quote user="YankeeCanary"][quote user="bunny"][quote user="Phatcanary9"][quote user="bunny"][quote user="Phatcanary9"][quote user="1st Wizard"]

[quote user="Web Team - Pete"]Yes, IF they win. And with Southampton''s goal difference they''re essentially 4 points behind us.[/quote]

Oh bloody great Pete, we''re now relying on other teams results for our survival are we?.

[/quote]

100% spot on wiz, we have really got into a p**s poor position to be relying on other teams to help us out!!!

[/quote]

Here, have a GCSE in maths..... It''s not "100% spot on" is it? If we win all our remaining games we won''t go down, we won''t be relying on any other team. That''s a "100% spot on" fact.

[/quote]

Got an A in all my GCSE''s thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Win all our remaining games, my arse!!!

[/quote]

How many did you take though? You obviously did not get an "A" in English though because you did not understand my point. You and Wiz seem to think that we are relying on other teams to do us a favour, that is not the case, our survival is in our own hands. It is a mathematical fact that if we win our remaining games we can not be relegated. I did not say that I thought we would win all our games between now and the end of the season, just stating facts. You and Wiz are both wrong, I am right.......end of.

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Just would like to add my support to your statement that, indeed, you are correct bunny, and PhatCanary and Wizard are incorrect. PhatCanary, in attempting to underscore his "A" levels in maths, uses almost thirty exclamation marks confirming, at the same time, his weakness in English grammar, therby confirming your suspicion as to why he ( and I suspect many others on similar points of fact ) has difficulty grasping the point being made.

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You are indeed a far better person than i Yankee, my oversight in the use of so many exclamation marks is just unforgivable, you and Bunny should be given the freedom of Norwich so you can walk around this fine City and mock your poor cousins, throwing dictionarys as you go. Maybe i should just stick to the supporting of Norwich City quietly and cower in fear as you tear my posts to shreds, God bless you for even allowing us all to share this forum with you both, i will leave, my tail between my legs, a better man for your scathing attack on my education.                                                                                         I pay my money each and every season to support the club i love, my opinion may be different to yours but we support the same team and we all want the same thing.  

[YankeeCanary 0]

Don''t take my "little jabs" so seriously PhatCanary.

[PhatCanary 0]

[quote user="YankeeCanary"]Don''t take my "little jabs" so seriously PhatCanary.[/quote]

Don''t take my tongue in cheek reply to seriously Yankee. As i say we all want the best for Norwich, and some of us get more frustrated than others with our position.

[ron obvious 0]

[quote user="YankeeCanary"]

 

....... PhatCanary, in attempting to underscore his "A" levels in maths, uses ......

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Alas! I''m afraid you''re demonstrating your ignorance of the British examination system; ''A'' levels & GCSE ''A''s are completely different beasts. Also he wouldn''t have ''A'' levels in maths unless he took Pure & Applied as separate subjects (can you still do that?)

Sorry, but I do love a spot of pedantry occasionally.