Martin Allen Interviewed

[TRIDENT 0]

is it true martin allen was interviewed yesterday?

[blahblahblah 2]

you tell us, you''re the insider...

[TRIDENT 0]

well inside information has it was, but i would like it confirmed! did anyone else witness this loooooser at carrow road yesterday

[Dame to Blame 108]

Keep them coming binners.

[Yellow Rider 0]

[quote user="TRIDENT"]is it true martin allen was interviewed yesterday?[/quote]

 

Doubt it - the Board will still be trawling around drawing up a list of people to make contact with and arrange interviews (if they make the shortlist). Can''t see any interviews happening until next week.

[Syteanric 1]

i doubt anyone was interviewd just hours after Grant left.. apart from Duffy as he is already littering up the place.

 to get Martin allen in for an interview they would of had to contacted him on the day then hope he could make it all the way from wherever he is, isnt delayed in traffic or anything.

jas :)

[Coelho 0]

I''m pretty certain they wouldn''t appoint Martin Allen - the board perceive him as too much of a loose cannon. I spoke at length with Neil Doncaster about potential managers the day before NW was sacked, and when I mentioned Martin Allen, ND was very quick to state that he didn''t think Allen would fit in at Carrow Road. I have to assume that he was reflecting the board''s general views, and I can''t think Allen''s ill-fated spell at Leicester (which was reputed to have ended as a result of disagreements with the board) would have done anything to soften the board''s stance.

[breaker2 0]

Martin Allen,is an excellent manager at what he does, scrape and scrap, and unearth a few outcast gems, but i dont think he has the pedigree to manage at our level.

on a side note,Coelho is your name because of Nuno Coelho?

[bobfleck 0]

Coelho - pardon me for asking, but what is your connection to ND that he would discuss something as important as this with you? I''m not being facetious, im genuinely interested.

[Freeza 0]

I was sat near Allen when the MK Dons played the reserves at Carrow Rd earlier this year and he was a complete ass. Screaming and shouting at nothing decisions and eventually going down to the dugouts to cause further trouble. At one point an annoyed Jim Duffy turned round to Allen and said something to him but I couldn''t hear what it was.

[BigFish 2,283]

[quote user="Coelho"]I''m pretty certain they wouldn''t appoint Martin Allen - the board perceive him as too much of a loose cannon. I spoke at length with Neil Doncaster about potential managers the day before NW was sacked, and when I mentioned Martin Allen, ND was very quick to state that he didn''t think Allen would fit in at Carrow Road. I have to assume that he was reflecting the board''s general views, and I can''t think Allen''s ill-fated spell at Leicester (which was reputed to have ended as a result of disagreements with the board) would have done anything to soften the board''s stance.
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So you think that not getting with this board is a bad thing?

[H4H 0]

DONT WONT ALLEN, he has achevied nothing and an idiot!!!!!!!

[Coelho 0]

[quote user="bobfleck"]Coelho - pardon me for asking, but what is your connection to ND that he would discuss something as important as this with you? I''m not being facetious, im genuinely interested.[/quote]I have no direct connection with ND, but I sent a very long and impassioned email to him in the week leading up to Nigel''s departure, and he asked me to call him to discuss it, which I did on the day before the Burnley game. I spoke to him for about 40 minutes, and one of the things we discussed was potential replacements for Nigel. Curbishley was the obvious candidate, but ND assured me that Curbs would ''only consider a job in the Premiership'', despite Curbs alluding to the contrary in a previous statement. Turns out he was right on that count.As soon as I mentioned Allen, he was adamant that Allen was not the kind of manager who would fit in with the setup at Carrow Road. I interpreted this as meaning that Allen is a bit too outspoken and unconventional for our board of directors.And to whoever it was that asked, my username is nothing to do with Nuno Coelho, it''s just a play on my name.

[NCFC1871 0]

Hmmm not sure Mad Dog would be the answer - he reminds me of a London verion of PG - Great initially with motivation but little else to give

Pardew sacked him at Reading to save his own skin when MA was his Coach, incidentally Martin Allen told a fib about his coaching qualifications to get the job at Reading and they only found out well after he was in place and doing well - no one was pleased.

Dion Dublin and Peter Taylor as a team - what do you think?

 

Tim

 

 

[Rudolph Hucker 0]

Neil came round to dinner last nightand never mentioned him.

[plan b 0]

got a really bad feeling that it could be allen, only if because that whenever they reported our ''loss'' on sky sports news yesterday they went straight to an item about allen and him leaving leicester. i know it means nothing but you know when you get those times when you think too hard, put 2 and 2 together and come up with 5 etc, well that is what i had yesterday. 

[Branston Pickle 4,150]

I''ve a relatively open mind on Allen, but asked about - several friends are Bees fans and their responses were not hugely positive - one is below....

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Well if Grant does go, I do hope you don''t get Allen unless you enjoy route one footy with no plan B.  Don''t get me wrong - he was absolutely fantastic for Brentford. He bought a lot more professionalism to the club and saved a bunch of no-hopers from certain relegation, and moulded a decent team from a mix of youngsters, non-leaguers and clapped out pro''s which was no mean feat in a short period of time and raised the profile of the club no end.   However, he really did show his limitations towards the end of his reign - teams had worked out how to play against us and he really didn''t have a clue what to do, hence our end of season form was always crap and we''d limp in to the play-offs and blow it. The slump in his last season was truly wondrous in how we snatched a play-off place from certain promotion.

He was absolutely atrocious at signing players, strikers in particular - he signed a whole list of them who were absolutely dire. The only decent one was DJ Campbell and it is widely acknowledged he was a signing made on the strong recommendation of John Griffin (who ''discovered'' Ian Wright amongst others).  At MK Donkeys they had the biggest playing budget in the league by miles and the style of footy was still crap to the point that some of their fans were not unhappy to see him go (blew it in the play offs again) so any argument on the quality of player he had is a bit dubious.

If I look back, it was Allen''s reign where I stopped going to the games because the football was so dispiriting.  He''s an impact manager - he''d undoubtedly turn things around short-term, but to the detriment of the long term benefit of the club (eg. we were until recently still saddled with a number of no-hopers on long contracts and big wages that have contributed to our financial mess, scrapped reserve team etc) and that it wasn''t long before players became fed up and mutinous at his methods.

BTW - he has never won a trophy or achieved a promotion as a manager!

Rant over!

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[I do think there is something in it re: transfers - the long list of players he signed in the Summer did include none that I''d have been particularly bothered by].

[First Wizard 0]

Be afraid, be very afraid!.

I understand Sky Sports News are saying we''re now in talks with him.[:''(]

[Graham Humphrey 13]

[quote user="1st Wizard"]

Be afraid, be very afraid!.

I understand Sky Sports News are saying we''re now in talks with him.[:''(]

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Let''s not slag him off when he might not even be appointed, hey? And if he is can we all give him a chance please.

[Branston Pickle 4,150]

[quote user="1st Wizard"]

Be afraid, be very afraid!.

I understand Sky Sports News are saying we''re now in talks with him.[:''(]

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IMO we have to at least be open minded enough to give whoever we get a fair chance - even if it is Allen, who I do have reservations about.  He is certainly in amongst the front runners - and tbh that is probably fair enough based on his record (Mandaric clearly thought enough of him to take him on, initially) which is generally as good as most who are available (Jewell''s is much better, but I doubt he''d come).

I''d suggest that whoever takes over is inheriting a reasonable squad (certainly better than Worthy left, imo), but which is badly low in confidence (those who aren''t injured!), so the first thing is to build that back up - and if it is Allen, motivating is certainly meant to be one of his stronger points; unfortunately his supposed preferred style of play is not, but I guess that can change.

[Alex Moss 2,167]

[quote user="Coelho"] and I can''t think Allen''s ill-fated spell at Leicester (which was reputed to have ended as a result of disagreements with the board) would have done anything to soften the board''s stance.
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To be fair to Martin Allen, Milan Mandaric is hardly renowned for getting on well with his managers is he?? I could imagine he''s a nightmare to work for having seen his relationship with Harry Redknapp down at Pompey...I''d give Martin Allen the benefit of the doubt ;)

[Cobain18 0]

If we take on Allen the board will have taken this club even further down the drain

[Coelho 0]

[quote user="Alex"]

[quote user="Coelho"] and I can''t think Allen''s ill-fated spell at Leicester (which was reputed to have ended as a result of disagreements with the board) would have done anything to soften the board''s stance.[/quote]

To be fair to Martin Allen, Milan Mandaric is hardly renowned for getting on well with his managers is he?? I could imagine he''s a nightmare to work for having seen his relationship with Harry Redknapp down at Pompey...I''d give Martin Allen the benefit of the doubt ;)

[/quote]Fair comment, although the post further up about Brentford fans'' opinions on him seems to back up my argument. If we did appoint him then it''d be an almighty gamble - he''d certainly put a few noses out of joint!