Hampshire Yella 0 Posted June 15, 2006 "At the end of the day, whether you agree or not, Nigel is the football expert at this Club, with more than 20 years playing experience in the top division and international level. He also holds the top qualification for coaching in Europe." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blahblahblah 2 Posted June 15, 2006 All facts in that statement are correct. Whether he is the "football expert" depends on your definition, but he is certainly the most qualified and experienced employee of NCFC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,572 Posted June 15, 2006 [quote user="Hampshire Yella"]"At the end of the day, whether you agree or not, Nigel is the football expert at this Club, with more than 20 years playing experience in the top division and international level. He also holds the top qualification for coaching in Europe."[/quote]I''m very good in bed...........but it doesn''t make me a porn star! [;)] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimaldinho 0 Posted June 15, 2006 [quote user="Mello Yello"] I''m very good in bed...........but it doesn''t make me a porn star! [;)][/quote]LMAO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Yellow Bird 0 Posted June 15, 2006 I''m very good in bed...........but it doesn''t make me a porn star! no.................but it can make you exceedingly popular............... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperCoolImiii 0 Posted June 15, 2006 he may be a ''football expert'' but he isn''t right for our team....thats why he doesn''t seem that good!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beno27 0 Posted June 15, 2006 [quote user="Old Yella Bird"]I''m very good in bed...........but it doesn''t make me a porn star! no.................but it can make you exceedingly popular............... [/quote]It alarms me that talking about porn stars has explained this whole situation... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hugh Jarse 0 Posted June 15, 2006 [quote user="Hampshire Yella"]"At the end of the day, whether you agree or not, Nigel is the football expert at this Club, with more than 20 years playing experience in the top division and international level. He also holds the top qualification for coaching in Europe."[/quote]With all those qualifications and experience it kinda begs the question - why is he such a poor manager but then I guess it''s the same with any trade group - all doctors hold a similar qualification to each other but you still have good doctors and bad ones - Harold Shipman was qualified doctor wasn''t he, Nigel is a qualified coach Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ridgemanddMMyyyy0Falseen-USTrue 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Following the last two seasons debacle doesn''t say much for the coaching qualification in fact two Premiership clubs have selected managers without that qualification. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CambridgeCanary 0 Posted June 15, 2006 All the referees and linesmen in the World Cup are internationally qualified and experienced. Real experts.And we''ve seen unremitting brilliance from them all haven''t we???Exactly!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saint delia 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Can you get an N.V.Q in football mangement??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent Canary 0 Posted June 16, 2006 Well exactly. The main arguement Newcastle had for Glenn Roeder was that with Glenn, a manager without the qualifications they did well. And with Souness, who has all the qualifications, they did naff all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 0 Posted June 16, 2006 Ahh but then Trent you have to remember Howard Wilkinson apparently does not have the qualifications - do you remember when he had a stint at leads and there was uproar?!!In truth it was because he was useless as well as not having the highest qualification required to coach in the premiership.I think it just goes to show that grades mean little. I have a friend who gave up on his A-Levels half way through, still finnished them though with pretty average grades (like me really) didnt go to uni but just worked at what he enjoyed and now earns close to £30k and has a car and a house. I have £11k of uni debt lodge in a room and have a bycicle.On paper I should in theory be earning/achieving more. But at the end of the day those qualifications only mean something if you work your ass off after you get them. I think it is fair to say that Worthington has proved that he is more than capable at this level. I still dont think he has had enough experience of top flight football to be able to tell if he is really any good at it.People say Taylor is a good manager but I seem to remember that his Premiership experience is also pretty limited too. I find it funny that it was him or Souness for Palace. Its obvious that he took the post as it is closer to the FA headquarters where he will still be working for the England Under 21s I presume. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent Canary 0 Posted June 16, 2006 Chicken, funny that.Practically all my good mates went to uni apart from three. One owns a business, one is managing a business, and one is doing well in a nice job. Takes the mick really!To be honest I think a lot of managing a club is luck, with only very few managers styles standing out. (Mourinho, Boothroyd) Most of the time it is down to the coaches, players, and attitude around the club. And of course how much money they spend. Ive always wondered whether the old cliche "I could do a better job than our manager" could ever be true, it surely cant be that hard to pick a team, tell coaches what to improve the team on, encourage the players, and buy people with the help of scouts?Am I being silly? Fair enough I wouldnt be able to coach them, but many managers do just that, manage, they dont coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beelsie 0 Posted June 16, 2006 I like the post Trent, I think personal success is as you hint, a lot to do with luck. In management it has to do with the ability to select your staff and find out if they are keen to move on your basic ideas, and are tuned in to your dreams. Staff''s reluctance to perform is the enemy of progress whatever your business.I had my own business and was very successful to my standards, I built the business on my own and was very talented in my field of engineering. When eventually I could not keep pace with the business that was generated, I had to take on more staff and the decision critical to success, was that I would only employ staff that were at least as good at their profession as I was. I was lucky in that I had excellent and dedicated people who wanted to work with me and wanted to see my business prosper, they also cared for our customers as much as I did, and did their best always for them. I cannot praise them enough. Yes! Trent I believe that it is not possible to make lazy men perform, and I believe that a manager must have above all to be a good judge of character, he must know his job from A-Z, he must never make decisions lightly but he must always be quick to praise and reward good effort. That criteria can work for anyone in any field. As long as a good eye is kept on the finances. Never employ a person because you think he might be good; only employ those that you are sure of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites