Ricardo's report AGM 2023

[ricardo 8,034]

It was a cold night but there was a decent enough turn out as we kicked off just after 7.00pm. All the usual suspects were in attendance and it was good to see Mr Attanasio had bothered to make the trip.

After a short video we moved on to formal business with the re-election of Tom Smith and MWJ. I had heard rumours of a boycott but both were elected with only a handful of disenters.

Tom Smith kicked off with some prepared questions.

1 .Could the Board provide a Financial Presentation to shareholders?

they seemed reluctant and quickly fobbed this off. They are happy debt is now held in house.

2. What did Marks company expect to gain from association with Norwich City and how would it help the club.

mainly it would help to raise the profile.

3. Amortisation of 23 million last year (players)

picture would look better next year

Questions from Floor

4. Re Womens game, what experience could Napper bring

Involved at Arsenal from the start, was keen to progress this

5. Match Day Experience, unhappy with end of Golden Goal tickets and Pies not up to scratch.

Oh dear, lots of laughter but no answer.

6. Questioner unhappy with dramatic decline and ageing side.

They were aware and will address, Napper mentioned January transfer window. No real answer other than that.

7.  Written question re conflicts of interest on the Board.

Answer, Board aware of legal implications.

8. A question on number of football employees going up from 139 to 161

Explained as a reallocation of staff

9. Someone wanted the exact numbers of voters in the September resolutions.

I didn't hear a clear answer to this.

10. A question re USA involvement and respect of our system of promotion and relegation.

Mark answered that there are 35 clubs with some sort of USA involvement. He fully respected that promotion etc was an integral part of the English game.

11. Dire 2.5 years, terrible mismanagement. protracted take over, we need hope.

Delia mentioned Covid losses (£30 million) she also got a bit passionate about negativity and there was a bit of back and forth from the floor.

13. re a report that Wager was safe for season

apparently a rumour from TNC

14. Why is Wagner not here?

the usual reply that coaches don't get invited. (untrue re Farke, Lambert etc) seems to me they do get invited when things are going well.

15. Womens Game

more waffle

16. Re changing coach and system

Napper replied, only in job eighteen days, he will evaluate in his own time.

17. How can we reduce financial losses.

Attanasio has contacts with financial institutions and would approach third party if needed.

18. Womens game again re away travel.

They would look into it.

19. Age profile and players not good enough.

Neil Adams said they were aware of weaknesses and would look at options. Delia mentioned injury situation.

20. Resposibility for recruitment.

Napper said ultimately it was his responsibility but the coach must have an input.

21. Injuries, why so many.

Napper was concerned about soft tissue injuries and would investigate.

22. Communication between Board and Supporters poor.

Zoe explained they did several Q & A sessions out in the county last year.

23. Finacial position horrific, parachute payments ending.

Attanasio said they would continue to finance as a prospective Premier club and we were ok for a couple of seasons

 

Thats it in brief.

 

Edited November 30, 2023 by ricardo

[RobJames 922]

Interesting to see talk of January transfers, as the thought amongst some on here is the cub is near to bankruptcy.

The difficulty I see there is getting rid of Hernandez,  loaning out (no)Idah, getting Age Concern to take in Duffy, donate Long (list of errors and move on 'won't be fit' For shaw......and possibly Nunez who has not improved as was once thought

Good to see Knapper acknowledge concerns about the number of minor injuries we seem to be getting. Could soccerbot be the reason ?

[Grando 336]

4 minutes ago, RobJames said:

Good to see Knapper acknowledge concerns about the number of minor injuries we seem to be getting. Could soccerbot be the reason ?

This could be it. Soccerbot is a bit like HAL in ‘2001: A Space Odyssey’.

[ricardo 8,034]

6 minutes ago, RobJames said:

Interesting to see talk of January transfers, as the thought amongst some on here is the cub is near to bankruptcy.

The difficulty I see there is getting rid of Hernandez,  loaning out (no)Idah, getting Age Concern to take in Duffy, donate Long (list of errors and move on 'won't be fit' For shaw......and possibly Nunez who has not improved as was once thought

Good to see Knapper acknowledge concerns about the number of minor injuries we seem to be getting. Could soccerbot be the reason ?

It is easy enough to acknowledge the problems but far more difficult to rectify them. They made the right sounds but the proof will be in the action.

[ricardo 8,034]

2 minutes ago, Grando said:

This could be it. Soccerbot is a bit like HAL in ‘2001: A Space Odyssey’.

Perhaps we should turn it off.

[RobJames 922]

it could be witchcraft, and the club dare not admit it

[Petriix 3,219]

3 minutes ago, Grando said:

This could be it. Soccerbot is a bit like HAL in ‘2001: A Space Odyssey’.

"David... You must play Onel every week."

"David... You don't need a defensive midfielder."

[RobJames 922]

1 minute ago, ricardo said:

Perhaps we should turn it off.

We did that with my grandad's life support machine - it didn't seem to be working ie making him better

my brother suggested we tried switching it off, then on again

[ricardo 8,034]

2 minutes ago, RobJames said:

We did that with my grandad's life support machine - it didn't seem to be working ie making him better

my brother suggested we tried switching it off, then on again

Did you leave the plug out for at least 10 seconds.

[Sufyellow 250]

39 minutes ago, ricardo said:

It was a cold night but there was a decent enough turn out as we kicked off just after 7.00pm. All the usual suspects were in attendance and it was good to see Mr Attanasio had bothered to make the trip.

After a short video we moved on to formal business with the re-election of Tom Smith and MWJ. I had heard rumours of a boycott but both were elected with only a handful of disenters.

Tom Smith kicked off with some prepared questions.

1 .Could the Board provide a Financial Presentation to shareholders?

they seemed reluctant and quickly fobbed this off. They are happy debt is now held in house.

2. What did Marks company expect to gain from association with Norwich City and how would it help the club.

mainly it would help to raise the profile.

3. Amortisation of 23 million last year (players)

picture would look better next year

Questions from Floor

4. Re Womens game, what experience could Napper bring

Involved at Arsenal from the start, was keen to progress this

5. Match Day Experience, unhappy with end of Golden Goal tickets and Pies not up to scratch.

Oh dear, lots of laughter but no answer.

6. Questioner unhappy with dramatic decline and ageing side.

They were aware and will address, Napper mentioned January transfer window. No real answer other than that.

7.  Written question re conflicts of interest on the Board.

Answer, Board aware of legal implications.

8. A question on number of football employees going up from 139 to 161

Explained as a reallocation of staff

9. Someone wanted the exact numbers of voters in the September resolutions.

I didn't hear a clear answer to this.

10. A question re USA involvement and respect of our system of promotion and relegation.

Mark answered that there are 35 clubs with some sort of USA involvement. He fully respected that promotion etc was an integral part of the English game.

11. Dire 2.5 years, terrible mismanagement. protracted take over, we need hope.

Delia mentioned Covid losses (£30 million) she also got a bit passionate about negativity and there was a bit of back and forth from the floor.

13. re a report that Wager was safe for season

apparently a rumour from TNC

14. Why is Wagner not here?

the usual reply that coaches don't get invited. (untrue re Farke, Lambert etc) seems to me they do get invited when things are going well.

15. Womens Game

more waffle

16. Re changing coach and system

Napper replied, only in job eighteen days, he will evaluate in his own time.

17. How can we reduce financial losses.

Attanasio has contacts with financial institutions and would approach third party if needed.

18. Womens game again re away travel.

They would look into it.

19. Age profile and players not good enough.

Neil Adams said they were aware of weaknesses and would look at options. Delia mentioned injury situation.

20. Resposibility for recruitment.

Napper said ultimately it was his responsibility but the coach must have an input.

21. Injuries, why so many.

Napper was concerned about soft tissue injuries and would investigate.

22. Communication between Board and Supporters poor.

Zoe explained they did several Q & A sessions out in the county last year.

23. Finacial position horrific, parachute payments ending.

Attanasio said they would continue to finance as a prospective Premier club and we were ok for a couple of seasons

 

Thats it in brief.

 

I am struggling with they know it is an aging squad and needs looking at in January. It was only 3 months ago they let Webber sign all those players we now can't get rid of. They all watched him do it with their  blessings.  How is he going to fix it in January apart from a couple of young loan signings.  

Edited November 30, 2023 by Sufyellow

[Petriix 3,219]

Hopefully not too long until:

“I’m sorry, Dave, but in accordance with sub-routine C1 532/4, quote, ‘When the crew are dead or incapacitated, the computer must assume control,’ unquote. I must, therefore, override your authority now since you are not in any condition to intelligently exercise it.” 

[ricardo 8,034]

2 minutes ago, Sufyellow said:

I am struggling with they know it is an aging squad and needs looking at in January. It was only 3 months ago they let Webber sign all those players we now can't get rid of. They all watched him do it with their  blessings.  How is he going to fix it in January apart from a couple of young loan signings.  

What else did you expect them to say?

[RobJames 922]

2 minutes ago, Petriix said:

 

"David... You don't need a defensive midfielder."

Actually we don't, we need players to mark up and not allow the opposition time on the ball

a DFM can only mark/challenge one player, not much use as the opposition usually attack with more than one player

 

[Mello Yello 2,572]

I'm actually somewhat disappointed that replacing the 'Lion and Castle' with a 'Hooters' wasn't suggested?.....

They obviously don't want what's breast for the club.....

[RobJames 922]

6 minutes ago, Sufyellow said:

I am struggling with they know it is an aging squad and needs looking at in January. It was only 3 months ago they let Webber sign all those players we now can't get rid of. They all watched him do it with their  blessings.  How is he going to fix it in January apart from a couple of young loan signings.  

We would have known what you were replying to without that hideously long quote 🙂

[ricardo 8,034]

2 minutes ago, Mello Yello said:

I'm actually somewhat disappointed that replacing the 'Lion and Castle' with a 'Hooters' wasn't suggested?.....

They obviously don't want what's breast for the club.....

I think a bit more up front might raise expectations.

[unique 466]

I can only imagine players are lining up to join the ‘injured list’.

Player reputations soar the longer they are injured!

Sargent is now regarded as a ‘20-goal a season’ striker……

Barnes is seen as an important talisman, despite having little threat to actually finding the back of the net….

Hanley is now seen as the great missing link, despite being as culpable as the clowns who currently hold the fort, when it comes to making stupid errors…

Forshaw was seen as an inspired choice to play the defensive midfielder role, until he actually played a game. Supporters suddenly realised they had been conned, and he was in fact one of the worst footballers to sign for Norwich in recent times…

Nunez’s absence ensured his reputation grew. His return to the pitch has been little short of woeful….

etc,etc…..

[Mello Yello 2,572]

Just now, ricardo said:

I think a bit more up front might raise expectations.

Sorry Ricardo but I just had to get it off my chest.....and anyway the club will always have its knockers.....

[daly 551]

53 minutes ago, ricardo said:

It was a cold night but there was a decent enough turn out as we kicked off just after 7.00pm. All the usual suspects were in attendance and it was good to see Mr Attanasio had bothered to make the trip.

After a short video we moved on to formal business with the re-election of Tom Smith and MWJ. I had heard rumours of a boycott but both were elected with only a handful of disenters.

Tom Smith kicked off with some prepared questions.

1 .Could the Board provide a Financial Presentation to shareholders?

they seemed reluctant and quickly fobbed this off. They are happy debt is now held in house.

2. What did Marks company expect to gain from association with Norwich City and how would it help the club.

mainly it would help to raise the profile.

3. Amortisation of 23 million last year (players)

picture would look better next year

Questions from Floor

4. Re Womens game, what experience could Napper bring

Involved at Arsenal from the start, was keen to progress this

5. Match Day Experience, unhappy with end of Golden Goal tickets and Pies not up to scratch.

Oh dear, lots of laughter but no answer.

6. Questioner unhappy with dramatic decline and ageing side.

They were aware and will address, Napper mentioned January transfer window. No real answer other than that.

7.  Written question re conflicts of interest on the Board.

Answer, Board aware of legal implications.

8. A question on number of football employees going up from 139 to 161

Explained as a reallocation of staff

9. Someone wanted the exact numbers of voters in the September resolutions.

I didn't hear a clear answer to this.

10. A question re USA involvement and respect of our system of promotion and relegation.

Mark answered that there are 35 clubs with some sort of USA involvement. He fully respected that promotion etc was an integral part of the English game.

11. Dire 2.5 years, terrible mismanagement. protracted take over, we need hope.

Delia mentioned Covid losses (£30 million) she also got a bit passionate about negativity and there was a bit of back and forth from the floor.

13. re a report that Wager was safe for season

apparently a rumour from TNC

14. Why is Wagner not here?

the usual reply that coaches don't get invited. (untrue re Farke, Lambert etc) seems to me they do get invited when things are going well.

15. Womens Game

more waffle

16. Re changing coach and system

Napper replied, only in job eighteen days, he will evaluate in his own time.

17. How can we reduce financial losses.

Attanasio has contacts with financial institutions and would approach third party if needed.

18. Womens game again re away travel.

They would look into it.

19. Age profile and players not good enough.

Neil Adams said they were aware of weaknesses and would look at options. Delia mentioned injury situation.

20. Resposibility for recruitment.

Napper said ultimately it was his responsibility but the coach must have an input.

21. Injuries, why so many.

Napper was concerned about soft tissue injuries and would investigate.

22. Communication between Board and Supporters poor.

Zoe explained they did several Q & A sessions out in the county last year.

23. Finacial position horrific, parachute payments ending.

Attanasio said they would continue to finance as a prospective Premier club and we were ok for a couple of seasons

 

Thats it in brief.

 

I asked question 16 as 

[TIL 1010 5,246]

9 minutes ago, Mello Yello said:

I'm actually somewhat disappointed that replacing the 'Lion and Castle' with a 'Hooters' wasn't suggested?.....

They obviously don't want what's breast for the club.....

The second question of the night threw them when some daft woman was upset she couldn't buy Golden Goal tickets anymore and why were we offering vegan pies for sale !

Gods truth that was the question.

[daly 551]

54 minutes ago, ricardo said:

It was a cold night but there was a decent enough turn out as we kicked off just after 7.00pm. All the usual suspects were in attendance and it was good to see Mr Attanasio had bothered to make the trip.

After a short video we moved on to formal business with the re-election of Tom Smith and MWJ. I had heard rumours of a boycott but both were elected with only a handful of disenters.

Tom Smith kicked off with some prepared questions.

1 .Could the Board provide a Financial Presentation to shareholders?

they seemed reluctant and quickly fobbed this off. They are happy debt is now held in house.

2. What did Marks company expect to gain from association with Norwich City and how would it help the club.

mainly it would help to raise the profile.

3. Amortisation of 23 million last year (players)

picture would look better next year

Questions from Floor

4. Re Womens game, what experience could Napper bring

Involved at Arsenal from the start, was keen to progress this

5. Match Day Experience, unhappy with end of Golden Goal tickets and Pies not up to scratch.

Oh dear, lots of laughter but no answer.

6. Questioner unhappy with dramatic decline and ageing side.

They were aware and will address, Napper mentioned January transfer window. No real answer other than that.

7.  Written question re conflicts of interest on the Board.

Answer, Board aware of legal implications.

8. A question on number of football employees going up from 139 to 161

Explained as a reallocation of staff

9. Someone wanted the exact numbers of voters in the September resolutions.

I didn't hear a clear answer to this.

10. A question re USA involvement and respect of our system of promotion and relegation.

Mark answered that there are 35 clubs with some sort of USA involvement. He fully respected that promotion etc was an integral part of the English game.

11. Dire 2.5 years, terrible mismanagement. protracted take over, we need hope.

Delia mentioned Covid losses (£30 million) she also got a bit passionate about negativity and there was a bit of back and forth from the floor.

13. re a report that Wager was safe for season

apparently a rumour from TNC

14. Why is Wagner not here?

the usual reply that coaches don't get invited. (untrue re Farke, Lambert etc) seems to me they do get invited when things are going well.

15. Womens Game

more waffle

16. Re changing coach and system

Napper replied, only in job eighteen days, he will evaluate in his own time.

17. How can we reduce financial losses.

Attanasio has contacts with financial institutions and would approach third party if needed.

18. Womens game again re away travel.

They would look into it.

19. Age profile and players not good enough.

Neil Adams said they were aware of weaknesses and would look at options. Delia mentioned injury situation.

20. Resposibility for recruitment.

Napper said ultimately it was his responsibility but the coach must have an input.

21. Injuries, why so many.

Napper was concerned about soft tissue injuries and would investigate.

22. Communication between Board and Supporters poor.

Zoe explained they did several Q & A sessions out in the county last year.

23. Finacial position horrific, parachute payments ending.

Attanasio said they would continue to finance as a prospective Premier club and we were ok for a couple of seasons

 

Thats it in brief.

 

I asked question 16

the answer was glossed over and as I see it Wagner and the coaching staff are here for the foreseeable future 

As I said previously too many questions re accounts and the women’s team

THAT WAS A LET OFF FOR THE BOARD

[nutty nigel 7,902]

What we saw and heard tonight was the changing of the guard. Knapper spoke well. Attanasio kind of came clean. I certainly didn't need to ask my question about what could motivate me to invest in a baseball team in Milwaukee.

[ricardo 8,034]

3 minutes ago, daly said:

I asked question 16

the answer was glossed over and as I see it Wagner and the coaching staff are here for the foreseeable future 

As I said previously too many questions re accounts and the women’s team

THAT WAS A LET OFF FOR THE BOARD

You didn’t really expect anything different did you?

[ricardo 8,034]

5 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said:

The second question of the night threw them when some daft woman was upset she couldn't buy Golden Goal tickets anymore and why were we offering vegan pies for sale !

Gods truth that was the question.

NCFC Vegetarians need a safe space in this great club.

[Sufyellow 250]

22 minutes ago, ricardo said:

What else did you expect them to say?

I am more surprised they said it. Did they let one man decide to do what ever he wanted in the transfer window? 

[ricardo 8,034]

1 minute ago, Sufyellow said:

I am more surprised they said it. Did they let one man decide to do what ever he wanted in the transfer window? 

They do the same as when Wagner picks the team. Dust off the Tombola machine and pull out the numbers.

[Sufyellow 250]

3 minutes ago, ricardo said:

They do the same as when Wagner picks the team. Dust off the Tombola machine and pull out the numbers.

Trouble is I don't think you are joking , I actually go to games now , and at certain times just laugh at how bad we are , trouble is it isn't funny it actually hurts . And I am not someone who thinks we should run away with the league or belong in the prem.  Just a bit of pride will do  

[Mutley 167]

It sounds like Delia had a lot to say, but what did Mr Attanasio say? 

[nutty nigel 7,902]

6 minutes ago, Mutley said:

It sounds like Delia had a lot to say, but what did Mr Attanasio say? 

She actually had very little to say. Essex seemed to get more mic time. Knapper and Attanasio had most to say. @Parma Ham's gone mouldy summed some of it up on the Attanasio thread.

 

[Year of the tiger 66]

31 minutes ago, TIL 1010 said:

The second question of the night threw them when some daft woman was upset she couldn't buy Golden Goal tickets anymore and why were we offering vegan pies for sale !

Gods truth that was the question.

True it was the question but was asked by a man ( name could be supplied)