Channon’s Windmill 344 Posted March 11, 2022 Genuine question, why are we so bad at defending corners and pose no threat from our own? This isn’t just a problem this Season. How can we be so bad at something that should be fundamentally easy to rectify? Is it lack of quality, lack of concentration, zonal marking or the fact we have too many players who are never going to win an aerial battle? I suspect it’s a combination of all, but it really does grip my sh*t that we never improve. Final point why oh why do we bring everyone back for every corner? leave Pukki or Radhita on the half way line and give the opposition something to think about!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Greenthumb 753 Posted March 11, 2022 Look at how many we concede, it’s a terrible figure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Wal 314 Posted March 11, 2022 Perhaps it's because we are so poor at defending corners that we feel there is strength in numbers. I get very annoyed when I see goals conceded from near post flick ons when we seem to wait for the ball instead of attacking it and allow attackers to get in front of us. Byram was guilty of this for Brentford's very important first goal but he certainly is not alone with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Juler 184 Posted March 11, 2022 Because our forwards train against our defenders, and our defenders against our forwards! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted March 11, 2022 What did Chalobah have to do last night? Just turn his head. I've watched it over and over and it is unbelievable that we were like traffic cones or maybe the Chuckle brothers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Smith 2,366 Posted March 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: What did Chalobah have to do last night? Just turn his head. I've watched it over and over and it is unbelievable that we were like traffic cones or maybe the Chuckle brothers. Agreed. He's about 4 yards out. Firstly i think Krul should be owning that but secondly, neither Hanley or Sargeant even jumped for it. Chalobah doesn't have to jump or even do very much at all. Its pathetic. There are too many of them in there getting in each other's way and then 3 or 4 opposition players unmarked outside the box as well ready to get the second ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,504 Posted March 11, 2022 I do think it is one of those "less is more" situations. As @Yellow Wal said above, Smith (and Farke before him) think just piling bodies in there and relying on zonal defence will do. I'd be tempted to go one less than the opposition but still using zonal, making sure those on the periphery were marked up, leaving Krul more space to make interventions where needed. But hey, I don't have a Pro Licence.🤷♂️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Hairy 3,813 Posted March 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, shefcanary said: I do think it is one of those "less is more" situations. As @Yellow Wal said above, Smith (and Farke before him) think just piling bodies in there and relying on zonal defence will do. I'd be tempted to go one less than the opposition but still using zonal, making sure those on the periphery were marked up, leaving Krul more space to make interventions where needed. But hey, I don't have a Pro Licence.🤷♂️ This 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greavsy 2,475 Posted March 11, 2022 2 hours ago, keelansgrandad said: What did Chalobah have to do last night? Just turn his head. I've watched it over and over and it is unbelievable that we were like traffic cones or maybe the Chuckle brothers. To you! (sorry, had to be done!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtopia 522 Posted March 12, 2022 We just do not attack the ball well enough, zonal marking should allow our best headers of the ball to focus on clearing the ball out of the highest risk areas of the penalty area. Whilst the smallest players makes sure their best headers of the ball do not get a clear run on the ball. Our players just do not do it well enough, not sure the mixed system we use is wrong, I just think we are not good enough at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarybubbles 1,975 Posted March 12, 2022 It seemed at first as if Smith had improved us in this area, but the old habits seem to have returned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channon’s Windmill 344 Posted March 12, 2022 I do wonder if the money spunked on the Soccerbot might have been better spent on a specialised defensive coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Canary 714 Posted March 12, 2022 It might just be an impression as no idea on the figures but I genuinely thought we had conceded just a couple of goals from corners since Smith arrived. A big improvement when it seemed to happen much more before he arrived. Until we went three at the back against Chelsea of course Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,315 Posted March 12, 2022 We actually afforded Chalobah a 'Guard of Honour' for him to score. It was a token of our esteem for the European and World Club Champions..... "There you go Trevoh mate, you get an unhindered free header on that.....Get in!.....Respect!"..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midlands Yellow 4,126 Posted March 12, 2022 51 minutes ago, Channon’s Windmill said: I do wonder if the money spunked on the Soccerbot might have been better spent on a specialised defensive coach. Soccerbot in action at Carrow Road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,315 Posted March 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, Midlands Yellow said: Soccerbot in action at Carrow Road. Carragher's Zorb ball is covered in "Scouse Docker Oysters" & loadsa gob an' flob on the inside......'Eeeurghhh!' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shefcanary 2,504 Posted March 12, 2022 5 hours ago, Channon’s Windmill said: I do wonder if the money spunked on the Soccerbot might have been better spent on a specialised defensive coach. I've read somehere (apologies for no link) Smith has the person he wants lined up, but has to wait until the close season before they can join formally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channon’s Windmill 344 Posted March 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, shefcanary said: I've read somehere (apologies for no link) Smith has the person he wants lined up, but has to wait until the close season before they can join formally. That would be a start for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites