Surfer 1,547 Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) Meanwhile the Bank of England - Raise interest rates Warned real incomes will fall by 2% this year Slashes GDP forecast for 2022 So the UK having the fastest growing economy in the G7 - even the BoE don’t believe that story.. Edited February 3, 2022 by Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted February 3, 2022 More great Brexit news: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/nestle-shutting-down-uk-factory-with-brit-favourites-set-to-be-made-in-eastern-europe/ar-AATpRqR?ocid=msedgntp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,213 Posted February 3, 2022 Chris Hickson @Hickson1Chris Here in France electricity prices would have increased by 45% from February without state intervention. Thanks to state intervention, the price rise will be limited to 4%. Remember when the leave campaign told us that we'd have cheaper bills when we left the EU, right now I'd take a 4% increase. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 3, 2022 why do I always get a notification from Horsefly ? Maybe he's fixated by me ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,274 Posted February 3, 2022 2 hours ago, A Load of Squit said: Chris Hickson @Hickson1Chris Here in France electricity prices would have increased by 45% from February without state intervention. Thanks to state intervention, the price rise will be limited to 4%. Remember when the leave campaign told us that we'd have cheaper bills when we left the EU, right now I'd take a 4% increase. Surely you are not suggesting we were misled ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 7,396 Posted February 3, 2022 The French have adequate supplies of atomic energy. The rest however are somewhat fcuked. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,213 Posted February 3, 2022 This was the conference in 2021, which was more than 3 weeks ago. isa o'carroll @lisaocarroll Sir Jeffery Donaldson also told reporters that Boris Johnson told him at the Tory party conference that he would get a revised deal with Brussels in a "short sharp three weeks" of negotiations. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,820 Posted February 3, 2022 32 minutes ago, ricardo said: The French have adequate supplies of atomic energy. The rest however are somewhat fcuked. A lot of gas too I hear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,274 Posted February 3, 2022 They couldn’t even get the cost right about the hotels. What a complete shambles we are in. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60249130 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 2,002 Posted February 3, 2022 21 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: DO YOU KNOW WHAT A FREEPORT IS ? Of course I do you blithering idiot - otherwise I wouldn't have been able to give the information about them that I did - information that was quite straightforward but still is too difficult for you to understand apparently. So let me have another go. Up until 2012 and whilst we were part of the EU, there were free port areas in Liverpool, Southampton, the Port of Tilbury, the Port of Sheerness and at Prestwick Airport. In 2012 the Tory government abolished them because they were of no benefit to the UK economy and were actually harmful because of the tax evasion and smuggling that they enabled. Johnson is now claiming that being able to set up freeports is a Brexit benefit which is firstly a lie because the EU has plenty of freeports and currently there is no reason why we couldn't have kept the ones we had and created new ones, and more importantly Johnson hasn't got a clue (and neither has anyone else) what benefits his freeports will bring to the UK economy. So not only did an earlier Tory government realise they were a cr@p idea, even the EU who have always allowed them are also coming round to the fact that they are a cr@p idea and are currently consulting the 27 EU countries about getting rid. In 2022 the idiot Johnson is just about the only person anywhere who thinks they are a good idea and even he couldn't form a coherent sentence on what the benefits are. Its just another piece of Brexit nonsense which you've swallowed hook, line & sinker 😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Creative Midfielder said: Of course I do you blithering idiot - otherwise I wouldn't have been able to give the information about them that I did - information that was quite straightforward but still is too difficult for you to understand apparently. So let me have another go. Up until 2012 and whilst we were part of the EU, there were free port areas in Liverpool, Southampton, the Port of Tilbury, the Port of Sheerness and at Prestwick Airport. In 2012 the Tory government abolished them because they were of no benefit to the UK economy and were actually harmful because of the tax evasion and smuggling that they enabled. Johnson is now claiming that being able to set up freeports is a Brexit benefit which is firstly a lie because the EU has plenty of freeports and currently there is no reason why we couldn't have kept the ones we had and created new ones, and more importantly Johnson hasn't got a clue (and neither has anyone else) what benefits his freeports will bring to the UK economy. So not only did an earlier Tory government realise they were a cr@p idea, even the EU who have always allowed them are also coming round to the fact that they are a cr@p idea and are currently consulting the 27 EU countries about getting rid. In 2022 the idiot Johnson is just about the only person anywhere who thinks they are a good idea and even he couldn't form a coherent sentence on what the benefits are. Its just another piece of Brexit nonsense which you've swallowed hook, line & sinker 😂 first there's not need to call me names plus whilst you lot were in the EU It cost us a fortune to be in that club. I know what I'd prefer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MooreMarriot 311 Posted February 4, 2022 News from the Southend by-election : Jason Pilley of the Psychedelic Movement came second with 512 votes. UKIP's Steve Laws was third with 400. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted February 4, 2022 7 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: first there's not need to call me names plus whilst you lot were in the EU It cost us a fortune to be in that club. I know what I'd prefer Thicko! The cost of being in the EU was way below the cost of Brexsh*ite. Currently running at £129bn https://costofbrexit.netlify.app/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,820 Posted February 4, 2022 "There will be no downside to Brexit, only a considerable upside." Twats!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 2,002 Posted February 4, 2022 8 hours ago, SwindonCanary said: first there's not need to call me names plus whilst you lot were in the EU It cost us a fortune to be in that club. I know what I'd prefer I wasn't calling you names I was accurately describing you and your behaviour - which once again you demonstrate by producing another stupid response which has no relevance whatsoever to the freeports you were originally so keen to discuss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, horsefly said: Thicko! The cost of being in the EU was way below the cost of Brexsh*ite. Currently running at £129bn https://costofbrexit.netlify.app/ once again, horsefly is there waiting for me I do believe you are fixated with me 😕 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, Creative Midfielder said: I wasn't calling you names I was accurately describing you and your behaviour - which once again you demonstrate by producing another stupid response which has no relevance whatsoever to the freeports you were originally so keen to discuss. 11 hours ago, Creative Midfielder said: Of course I do you blithering idiot What's that if it's not calling me names ? As I explained being in the EU was not a freeport it cost us a fortune to be in the club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 2,002 Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: What's that if it's not calling me names ? I already said - it is a description of you and your behaviour on here As I explained being in the EU was not a freeport it cost us a fortune to be in the club. That appears to be a list of English words in a random order which doesn't actually mean anything whatsoever - in other words it makes slightly less sense than your normal complete nonsense. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted February 4, 2022 59 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: What's that if it's not calling me names ? As I explained being in the EU was not a freeport it cost us a fortune to be in the club. New levels of stupidity that couldn't be reproduced by a mentally defective monkey typing randomly on a keyboard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, horsefly said: New levels of stupidity that couldn't be reproduced by a mentally defective monkey typing randomly on a keyboard. calling names AGAIN ! So you believe it cost us nothing to be in the EU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, SwindonCanary said: calling names AGAIN ! So you believe it cost us nothing to be in the EU FFS! Can you not read? I said nothing of the sort. Go back and read again or get a grandchild to explain to you what I ACTUALLY said. In 2019 the UK's contribution to the EU cost a net £9.4bn (https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7886/). The benefits to UK industry of that £9.4bn investment allowing frictionless free trade undoubtedly exceeds that outlay by huge amounts. The cost of Brexit to date is estimated to be around £129bn. Do the maths you utter fool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, horsefly said: FFS! Can you not read? I said nothing of the sort. Go back and read again or get a grandchild to explain to you what I ACTUALLY said. In 2019 the UK's contribution to the EU cost a net £9.4bn (https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7886/). The benefits to UK industry of that £9.4bn investment allowing frictionless free trade undoubtedly exceeds that outlay by huge amounts. The cost of Brexit to date is estimated to be around £129bn. Do the maths you utter fool. There's a lot of debate about how much we pay into the EU but even if it is £9.4bn don't you think that's a lot of money to be in the club and be part of a 'free'port ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted February 4, 2022 43 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: There's a lot of debate about how much we pay into the EU but even if it is £9.4bn don't you think that's a lot of money to be in the club and be part of a 'free'port ? The link I posted is the GOVERNMENT's own figures. And what don't you understand about the concept of investing a certain amount of money in order to generate profits far in excess of that investment? Now do the maths: which is bigger, £9.4bn or £129bn? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 4, 2022 I STILL SAY £9.4bn IS ALOT TO PAY FOR A FREEPORT, BETTER OUT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsefly 4,310 Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, SwindonCanary said: I STILL SAY £9.4bn IS ALOT TO PAY FOR A FREEPORT, BETTER OUT That's because you're stupid. The EU is not a freeport you moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creative Midfielder 2,002 Posted February 4, 2022 34 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: There's a lot of debate about how much we pay into the EU but even if it is £9.4bn don't you think that's a lot of money to be in the club and be part of a 'free'port ? You still clearly haven't got a clue what a freeport is - they are nothing to do with the EU whatsoever other than the EU has some as have many countries round the world. EU freeports have absolutely nothing to due with the UK's or any other countries' contribution to the EU budget. The decision to establish a freeport in any country is a decision for that country's government and they are called 'free' ports because they are largely free from taxes and many regulations as far as the companies operating in them are concerned. So they cost the country that hosts the freeport money in lost tax revenue which is one of the reasons why the Tory government decided in 2012 to scrap all the UK ones that were in operation. They are nothing to do with Brexit and even if they were they wouldn't be a Brexit benefit because as I've already described they are not beneficial - no one other than the idiot Johnson has a clue why he would think that bringing them back is a good idea. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwindonCanary 455 Posted February 4, 2022 I STILL SAY £9.4bn IS ALOT TO PAY FOR A FREEPORT, BETTER OUT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,274 Posted February 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said: I STILL SAY £9.4bn IS ALOT TO PAY FOR A FREEPORT, BETTER OUT How much did we get returned in grants ? Genuine question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,818 Posted February 4, 2022 45 minutes ago, Creative Midfielder said: You still clearly haven't got a clue what a freeport is - they are nothing to do with the EU whatsoever other than the EU has some as have many countries round the world. EU freeports have absolutely nothing to due with the UK's or any other countries' contribution to the EU budget. The decision to establish a freeport in any country is a decision for that country's government and they are called 'free' ports because they are largely free from taxes and many regulations as far as the companies operating in them are concerned. So they cost the country that hosts the freeport money in lost tax revenue which is one of the reasons why the Tory government decided in 2012 to scrap all the UK ones that were in operation. They are nothing to do with Brexit and even if they were they wouldn't be a Brexit benefit because as I've already described they are not beneficial - no one other than the idiot Johnson has a clue why he would think that bringing them back is a good idea. Its a rare skill of SC to get everything so totally wrong, misunderstood and back to front. As you note even a randomly guessing monkey couldn't manage it. It's pure comic genius or as per the Eric Morecambe sketch "I'm playing all the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order." I think he'd be brilliant on the stage. A sort of Tommy Cooper / Frank Spenser cross on steroids. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites