PurpleCanary 5,587 Posted April 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Yellow Fever said: I rather suspect that if we wanted to 'rejoin' the EU would probably allow us back on similar terms to what we left. After all its win-win for somewhat wiser parties although don't leave it too long. Oddly - makes me laugh when some say there would be lots of problems with in re-joining (a known system) - as if the Leavers had scooby of the problems in leaving in the first place - they clearly had no plan whatsoever and signed a blank cheque! Best ignored. However - despite those polls indicating a near or actual supermajority to return its too soon. But clearly the public at large are currently well ahead of the politicians but give it another election cycle - a 6% reduction in standard of living as forecast and the issue will become very live again. If Labour, solely or in coalition, win the next two elections there will be a virtuous mission-creep back towards the EU. That will not necessarily end in rejoining but it will reduce the manifest economic self-harm of Brexit. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,198 Posted April 5, 2023 More good news Port of Dover to take action on staggering coaches and install additional infrastructure Temporary infrastructure, mind...... A marquee 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,838 Posted April 5, 2023 Hopefully a British made marquee? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted April 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Herman said: Hopefully a British made marquee? Sounds French 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rock The Boat 1,332 Posted April 5, 2023 23 hours ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said: Family fighting to prevent deportation Hopefully Brussels will lean on the Sweden and help stop the deportation This is just like the Windrush situation where people sat on their ariisses for years and years without bothering to get their paperwork sorted out, most likely because they didn't want to have any correspondence with the authorities. And now here we have a daughter who screwed up her mother's visa application and now blames it on everybody except herself. Nobody takes responsibility for themselves any more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,838 Posted April 5, 2023 The scandal of the said Windrush scandal was that the government actively destroyed a lot of paperwork. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How I Wrote Elastic Man 1,198 Posted April 5, 2023 50 minutes ago, Rock The Boat said: This is just like the Windrush situation where people sat on their ariisses for years and years without bothering to get their paperwork sorted out, most likely because they didn't want to have any correspondence with the authorities. And now here we have a daughter who screwed up her mother's visa application and now blames it on everybody except herself. Nobody takes responsibility for themselves any more. Don't agree regarding Windrush....see Herman's comment above and add on many weren't told about the paperwork decades back. Agree mostly regarding Brexit. Most people should have had no problem with applications. My own application took a few minutes. ID, Mugshot & fingerprints. Back again a couple of days later to pick up the residency permit. It was always going to be mostly the older and less able people who would have trouble. My understanding is that this ladys passport was rejected as it was out of date, as she has no plans to travel. My mum was moved into a home a couple of years ago and my sister has spent ages trying to sort out her paperwork and affairs. It isn't easy when you are trying to sort things out for others. What was/is needed to sort this situation out is something very simple: common sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benchwarmer 625 Posted April 5, 2023 4 hours ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said: More good news Port of Dover to take action on staggering coaches and install additional infrastructure Temporary infrastructure, mind...... A marquee "Alexa, give me an example of the futility of Brexit" "Temporary border control infrastructure" 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted April 5, 2023 5 hours ago, How I Wrote Elastic Man said: More good news Port of Dover to take action on staggering coaches and install additional infrastructure Temporary infrastructure, mind...... A marquee Spread over three days to avoid delays? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,604 Posted April 5, 2023 A round up of progress on the trade negotiations with India. https://www.india-briefing.com/news/india-uk-fta-25699.html/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,223 Posted April 6, 2023 7 hours ago, littleyellowbirdie said: A round up of progress on the trade negotiations with India. https://www.india-briefing.com/news/india-uk-fta-25699.html/ They've done the 13 easy bits (mostly the stuff that will make Sunak's wife even richer) and are really stuck on the hard bits. Progress rating = bad, very bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,838 Posted April 6, 2023 48 minutes ago, A Load of Squit said: They've done the 13 easy bits (mostly the stuff that will make Sunak's wife even richer) and are really stuck on the hard bits. Progress rating = bad, very bad. Easy visas for Indians is normally the stumbling block. How do you square the circle of appeasing India and their racist supporters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,604 Posted April 7, 2023 On 06/04/2023 at 07:52, Herman said: Easy visas for Indians is normally the stumbling block. How do you square the circle of appeasing India and their racist supporters? It's notable that Sunak's rhetoric about trade agreements is massively different to that of Johnson. The biggest recent surprise was that CPTPP accession was agreed without Canada getting farming concessions similar to New Zealand and Australia, having been pressured by the other members to relent to move things on. They're definitely going to have to improve opportunities over movement if they want to see it through. Brits of Indian descent are arguably the best integrated minority in the UK anyway. There was a real buzz in the Indian press when Sunak was appointed. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the sealing of that one came shortly before a general election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,223 Posted April 7, 2023 53 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: Brits of Indian descent are arguably the best integrated minority in the UK anyway. They're the really nice people who keep 'phoning me to help with the errors on my computer. Awfully nice chaps. Another stupid comment from you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,838 Posted April 7, 2023 It's not the remain side that you have to persuade that more immigration from the sub continent is a good thing. It's definitely not the brexit they voted for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,841 Posted April 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Herman said: It's not the remain side that you have to persuade that more immigration from the sub continent is a good thing. It's definitely not the brexit they voted for. It is however the Brexit that many with ethnic roots from the sub continent did vote for apparently! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Fever 3,841 Posted April 7, 2023 Birds of a feather cast asunder by Brexit: fears for Britain’s rare canaries https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/apr/07/britains-rare-canaries-threatened-by-brexit-bird-hobbyists-warn I knew there was a reason for the Canaries downturn. Blame Brexit 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,838 Posted April 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said: It is however the Brexit that many with ethnic roots from the sub continent did vote for apparently! Fair point. There were a few promises made to people, especially restaurant owners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 5,587 Posted April 7, 2023 46 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said: Birds of a feather cast asunder by Brexit: fears for Britain’s rare canaries https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/apr/07/britains-rare-canaries-threatened-by-brexit-bird-hobbyists-warn I knew there was a reason for the Canaries downturn. Blame Brexit 😉 You beat me to it! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,838 Posted April 7, 2023 More fish. A good article but don't expecting anything we hadn't predicted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hook's-Walk-Canary 213 Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) Y Edited April 7, 2023 by Hook's-Walk-Canary wRONG THREAD LOLS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sonyc 5,541 Posted April 7, 2023 49 minutes ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said: Y To be fair to you Hooky it's what most people think when you post. 😉 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,679 Posted April 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said: Y Has the AWN been deleted? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hook's-Walk-Canary 213 Posted April 7, 2023 3 hours ago, sonyc said: To be fair to you Hooky it's what most people think when you post. 😉 I like that so much I've awarded you a trophy 👍 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hook's-Walk-Canary 213 Posted April 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Herman said: More fish. A good article but don't expecting anything we hadn't predicted. Aye, the NY Times with its fingers on the pulse of the UK fishing industry 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,223 Posted April 8, 2023 Proof of what we knew at the time, Minford is a **. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Load of Squit 5,223 Posted April 8, 2023 12 hours ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said: Aye, the NY Times with its fingers on the pulse of the UK fishing industry 😉 More truth told about UK fishing by the NY Times than the Leavers did during the Brexit campaign. I expect even JRM's happy fish are no longer seeing the joyousness of Brexit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 9,838 Posted April 8, 2023 More completely unnecessary cultural vandalism. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,442 Posted April 8, 2023 For f.uck sake. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 2,604 Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Herman said: More completely unnecessary cultural vandalism. If the EU restricts access to UK artists and the UK lets EU artists into the UK regardless then there'll never be any motive for the EU to come to the table to agree access for UK artists. Reciprocity is the basis of most agreements; not mindlessly giving bargaining chips away. Edited April 8, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
