Tony Cottee Woz Ere . . .

Smudger you''re wasting your time i''m afraid mate. The majority of norwich fans just don''t care enough. Simple as.

all you happy clappy family club fans who turn up week after week supporting delia, rodent and his loan army who couldn''t give toss about this club will finally get what you deserve. Oh huckerby, hucker, hucker, huckerby!

[quote user="AndyJR"] Saw this report from a Birmingham fan, thought it might be worth sharing.  The obsession with Norwich being ''too nice'' I thought had gone ages ago, but those looking from the outside in evidently still think it.  Oh well........   My Report (for those interested) Ron (IP Logged) August 31, 2008 12:17PM If you read the below, please click on this link: [www.singingtheblues.co.uk] Norwich City 1 Blues 1 Blues surrendered their 100% league record and had to settle for just a single point from their trip to Carrow Road. Blues had led through Seb Larsson''s header, but less than a minute into the second half Darel Russell equalised for Norwich, and that was the way the game ended. For Blues, Martin Taylor came back in for Stephen Kelly at the heart of defence (Kelly was absent from the bench again - for someone who never missed a minute of football last season, he''s missed a lot of football this season - I''m not sure if he was injured, or if he''s off somewhere else). Kemy Agustien kept his place alongside Lee Carsley in midfield, despite a (by all accounts) wretched debut at Southampton in the Carling Cup. On the flanks were Larsson and Quincy, with James McFadden and Kevin Phillips paired up front. There''s something I''ve always disliked about Norwich City - they''re just too nice to be considered a proper football club. Plus Norwich is at the arse end of nowhere, and the motorway runs out 100 miles before you get there. The club though is run by a celebrity chef, and a female one at that. The fans'' anthem is ''On The Ball City!'', which includes reference to having "a little scrimmage" and "hurrah! we''ve scored a goal!". All the fans are just smiley and all the rest of it. You have a grudging respect for fans of the likes of Stoke, Hull, Burnley, etc who create an intimidating atmosphere and all the rest of it, but Norwich fans just smile politely and say "Well done, old chap". Following the 2002 play-off final, had Blues lost, Cardiff would probably have had to brace itself for a riot. Norwich fans just waved their yellow and green flags and commented on what a lovely day it had been. Yellow and green - they''re not even proper colours. And they''re nicknamed "The Canaries", for God''s sake! Even at their local rivals Ipswich (who are about 45 miles away, so even that doesn''t count), there can be a little bit of an atmosphere, on occasions. A trip to Portman Road is like a trip to Galatasaray, in comparison with a trip to Carrow Road, which is more like a trip to the Nature Centre, where you look at everything and say, "Awww... isn''t that lovely??" I just don''t think there''s a place in the upper echelons on English football for nice clubs. I mean, any opposition club whose fans cheer Martin Taylor... Their football has tended to mirror that too. In the early 1990s, when the rest of football was crap, Norwich somehow started to challenge for the title and things like that. Jeremy Goss scored a goal to beat Bayern Munich, and messrs Bowen, Culverhouse, Fleck and Gunn were household names. They''ve always played pretty, nice football, but it''s always been fairly harmless. They were a bit like that against Blues. Plenty of possession, some neat touches, but never too threatening. Don''t get me wrong, Norwich did well, and Blues will probably be happy with their point, in hindsight. Norwich started as most teams will at home against Blues - at a high tempo, and forcing Blues onto the back foot. Blues had to deal with it at Southampton, and had to do so again here - and as I say, they''ll have to do so probably another 21 times this season. Home teams, whoever they are, are always going to have a bit of pressure. Norwich have some neat and tidy players in forward and wide positions, and so the likes of Arturo Lupoli, Wes Hoolahan and Matty Pattison (a good, young product of Newcastle''s Academy) are always likely to cause you problems, and they did. Pattison showed up David Murphy''s worrying inability to defend, and to get caught on his heels backtracking so that anyone with pace can "do him" down the outside, whilst Hoolahan terrorised Stuart Parnaby and drifted inside to link up with the forwards with great effect, illustrating why clubs like Atletico Madrid and Napoli were linked to him when he was at Livingston. It was all fairly toothless from Norwich though - a few crosses flew across the face of goal, and they won a few corners, but Maik Taylor wasn''t really tested. In front of him, the defence looked dodgy, with the full-backs tested, as above, and Liam Ridgewell slicing clearances 30 foot in the air, but not away from danger, as only he can. Martin Taylor held it together a little bit, however. The similarities to the Southampton league game continued as Norwich, 30 minutes in, began to run out of ideas a little, and Blues began to get a foothold in the game. There were a few nice moves from Blues, but the final ball was often just not quite there. Phillips couldn''t really get into the game, and Quincy never really got much service. Then, just like Southampton away (again), there was a goal from a set-piece, just before half-time. This time it went in Blues'' favour, however. McFadden had cut in from the right and been pulled down towards the corner of the penalty area - a position that favoured his left foot. It was a bit of a tight angle to shoot, but McFadden drilled a cross/shot across the face of goal, and Larsson met it with his head at the near post to divert it into the corner. Blues went into half-time 1-0 up, but barely deserved it. It was cruel on Norwich. Still, Blues being Blues, it didn''t take Norwich long to get level. Marcus Bent replaced Quincy at half-time (again, not sure why, but I presume there was a knock), meaning McFadden moved wide left with Bent down the middle. Before Bent had had chance to touch the ball, however, Norwich had equalised. A Blues move broke down on the right, with Parnaby playing Agustien into trouble. He got caught out, Norwich broke and Russell scored. This really opened the second half up, and it was pretty frantic and end-to-end, but again, there wasn''t a host of chances. Agustien was eventually replaced by Gary McSheffrey, but he''ll have been much happier with his league debut than his full debut in the cup. He didn''t look fantastic, by any stretch, but he showed glimpses of being a good box-to-box midfielder. His first pass went astray, but within 30 seconds he''d won a proper tackle, got up and laid the ball off to a team-mate. He didn''t look to have a "killer pass", but involed himself in play fairly well, got stuck in, and on two occasions made good runs in behind the forwards, but on one the ball never found him, and on the other he was harshly flagged offside. As I say, it was nothing sensational, but having heard reports of his Southampton display, I was concerned, and he looked ok. The best two chances of the second half - until the last few minutes - were both off-target Norwich headers from Jamie Cureton and Dejan Stefanovic. Then, in the last five minutes, Blues really and truly should have won it. Firstly, following a Blues corner, Bent superbly chested down for McSheffrey (though it seemed that a lot of the travelling support were loath to give Bent an ounce of credit for anything), and McSheffrey, who recently has displayed all the confidence of Paul Francis Gadd at a Vigilante Convention, managed to loop the ball over the bar from about five yards with just David Marshall to beat. Then, moments later, Blues broke well and McSheffrey managed to do something well and teed up Phillips. I felt that he should have shot first time - we''ve all seen him do it - but he took a touch, and by that point Marshall had closed him down and saved well. Marshall, by the way, looked a top, top goalkeeper. They were the best two chances of the game, in fairness, and Blues failed to take either of them. Had they done so, they''d have probably earned themselves three points that they didn''t deserve, but that''s what ruthless teams who win league titles do, and that has to be Blues'' aim this season. How many times have we seen Manchester United struggle, but then just take one or two chances and win the game? Many, many times - quite a few against Blues. Admittedly, I haven''t seen a great deal of Blues so far this season (but that should change over the coming months), but having talked to and read things by people whose opinion I value, the worrying aspect so far will be that Blues haven''t actually played well yet this season. There doesn''t seem to have been a game where people came away saying "yeah, that was good - played well today". They''re picking up points, sure, but the squad already looks a little stretched, and they won''t keep getting lucky on the road - a team will start well, as Southampton and Norwich have, and will score two or three goals, and Blues won''t be able to come back. Last season, despite relegation, there were signs of Blues playing good football. There''ve been glimpses this season (had a James McFadden reverse pass to David Murphy come off yesterday, he''d have probably scored and it would have capped a wonderful move), but they''ve been few and far between, and with the players that Blues have, I think everyone possibly expected a little more - not so much in terms of results (no one will seriously knock 10 points out of 12, including two tricky away games), but certainly in terms of performances. Can do better.     Taken from http://www.smallheathalliance.com/board/read.php?1,320517  [/quote]Unfortunately you can''t argue with any of this post. The atmosphere at carrow road is far too friendly and accomodating for opposition fans and players alike. Away fans must just looked at fans beside them in the jarrold stand with their heads down, hands under their arses and just laugh. But that''s the way it''s always been here and sadly always will be.

Yeah but give him a break. It''s a good effort from the boy. 

[quote user="BunnyB"]NO, as everybody on this board obviously has a interlect far higher than yours! [/quote] Oh dear. I actually meant the norwich city board. Oh well, enjoy the school holidays son.

After lupoli''s two goals today will our board of imbeciles tell roeder there is now no need to spend any more of our precious money on another striker? It really wouldn''t surprise me.

[quote user="ncfcstar"]JC WROTE: If we lose tonight then those of us who voiced concerns about lack of investment, over reliance on loans and the criminal lack of a decent target man are at least vindicated. Obviously I would rather we score three in the second half, but some people really, really need to wake up and see the team we REALLY have rather than what they HOPED we had. ------------------------------------------------------------ No you''re wrong its one game at the start of the season, last year Grant won this 5-2, then look what happened. It means nothing in the grand scheme of things, but luckily for you it fits into your propaganda. I don''t really mind if we lose tonight, we always perform poorly in the cups so it''s nothing new.[/quote] No it means nothing, just like the friendlies meant nothing, just like losing 2-0 away to a poor coventry means nothing. Unfortunately this is the sort of attitude most fans on this site to seem to have. Head in the sand springs to mind. Fans with no ambition. Pathetic.

[quote user="Neil Cluckcaster"][quote user="Iwan Roberts"] I support Norwich City. I don''t care who the board is, who the manager is or who the players are, they''ll all be gone when I''m still supporting the team. I sing my heart out, never, ever boo one of our own and am proud to be a Norwich fan and always will be. What is there to be gained from having a go at the board or slagging off our own players. Nothing is the answer, nowt. You carry on moaning and having a go at the board see where it gets you. [/quote] knob....... [/quote] Spot on neil, unfortunately the majority of our gutless supporters have the same ''head buried in the sand'' attitude. And i''m sure they''ll be coming out with the same crap when delia and co. finally drags us down to league one. Perhaps if we had a few less mugs in the carrow road stand this club would have a chance of getting where it belongs. Have to agree with a couple of the previous posts, it''s our characterless, ambitionless supporters that will ultimately be to blame for this clubs predicament.

Intimidating? God i wish most of our supporters would grow a set of grape fruits.

[quote user="Branston Pickle"] [quote user="National express super guard "][quote user="Loan City Fc "]There not even good players we are trying to sign ,cheap and old nobodies , i fully expect relegation next season . [/quote] you''re following ipswich next season then? with cheery souls like you I can''t understand why people don''t come to norwich [/quote] It''s embarrassing that people like this can consider themselves supporters, isn''t it? [/quote] No what is more embarassing is fans like you with their rose tinted glasses on who believe everything is fine. The sort of supporter who believes he is above others because he refuses to criticise, even when it is patently obvious we as a club are an absolute joke at the moment. The fact of the matter is with the current board running things we are in for year after year of relegation battles. But for ''real fans'' like you i suppose ignorance is bliss.

To be fair if the jarrold stand was pulled down it would make absolutley no difference to the atmosphere at the ground. I sat there once last season and it was like being in a morgue.

[quote user="The Voice of the Thorpe Area"] Delia our avatars and banners? This is actually getting quite ridiculous. What next? We hate Nelson Mandela t-shirts? Winston Churchill replacing Guy Fawkes? People pulling down Nelson''s Column and hitting it with their shoes? Sorry, but if anyone ever expects Delia and Wyn-Jones to sell up for a fraction of what they''ve invested in the past 10 years, then you need your heads examining. We''re all disappointed that the take-over didn''t happen, but to take this stance shows some of our fans to be very fickle, and have very short memories. Bring on the abuse from the Delia Outers, see if I care! [/quote] Voice of the thorpe area? The thorpe area doesn''t have a voice does it? I thought it was just a bunch of mutes sitting on their hands? My mistake!

[quote user="up_barc_canary"][quote user="Ncfc No Ambition"]Never had any intention of selling and will ruin this club if not removed by force . [/quote] idiot [/quote] How is he an idiot? For telling it like it is? Get your rose tinted blinkers off. Then again i suppose ignorance is bliss hey up_barc_canary?

[quote user="up_barc_canary"]Here we go. another bad turn in the life of NCFC. so bloody what?. you people have been waiting for this since Worthington left. Your chance to emerge and try and get a name for yourselves or score a point by saying something against City.  Im guessing its now that you crawl out of the woodwork and start hacking away and the Carrow road foundations until they crumble because you have the right to say and feel what you want. Utter Crap.  Its safe to assume that a lot of people are unhappy and they have a right to be, but for once just shut up and SUPPORT your club and be a NCFC fan through thick and thin. Under worthington we won the league and had a play off final, then when it all went wrong up came the hate squad and the worthy out began. When chase left and Delia and Co came in you all loved them and sang their name from the stands, Now things go wrong and guess what. you turn on them. suprise suprise. what next??? Roeder gets a few bad results and you turn on him next??? that wouldnt suprise me in the slightest.  I dont care if you all come back on here and criticise me for this or say something codasending back to me. i just dont care. what i care about is supporting a football club, Norwich City and that is it. in my eyes a true football fan is someone who will stand by the team and club no matter what.  Look what happened to gretna. did they jump up and start hating everyone. No, did they start a ''get the board out campaign'' No.  so why should we?? ps. anyone with a petition can shove it. [/quote] Yeah! Just shut up and support your club! Yeah everything''s great! Yeah delia is our saviour! Yeah we''re the real supporters cos we''ll cheer and accept everything our mighty board says and does! Yeah who cares about success and the future of our club! Delia Delia Delia! We''re the real fans! Yeah!!!!!!

And still the delia brigade are shouting out in support of our ''saviour.'' I''ve given up blaming smith for the demise of this club, it''s not her fault cos she knows she can get away with it! The reason this club is on a one way ticket to league one is the supporters. Never has a boards lack of ambition been so matched by the fans. The fact is at virtually any other club across the land the two faced lying cook and her cronies would have been hounded out a long time ago. Still, to all you supporters who accept paying your hard earned cash on season tickets and merchandise only to have the current board laugh at you and spit in your face, good luck to you. To all the fans afraid to upset the apple cart, who love seeing a club in demise, who love a good ''ol relegation battle, who don''t really care about success and just like watching a fair game of football in a nice cosy atmosphere, well good luck to you too. And before anyone comes out with the classic and childish ''binner'' insults, i am not, i am a life long city fan who''s had enough and who is truly disgusted with the people ''running'' my club into the dirt and embarrased by my fellow fans willing to let them. Oh and by the way being a ''fan'' doesn''t mean you support and cheer everything without question, that is a ''mug.''

[quote user="scott"] It disgusts me that in this day and age of little or next to no football related trouble at either Norwich or the Essex reject boys the the East Anglian derby games are switched!   All you get at either game is a group of teenage lads who probably didn''t even go to the game shouting your Sh*t at fans as there safely on the other side of the station or behind the huge police presence - And to be honest the last couple of Norwich performances at Portakabin Road have been exactly that so I agreed with them totally. I''m certainly not going to get violent about it when the team has show little fight on the pitch!   The police tend to go over the top and make situations worse than would be otherwise such as not letting Norwich fans onto Lowestoft trains when they know that theres lots of Canary fans in that area and they travelled to the game on the very same line and holding Norwich fans at Ipsh*T station for so long they end up with huge conjestion at the ageing Portakabin Road away turnstiles and people struggling to get in for the kick off.   Other than that and the fact that despite the huge police presense outside, once in the ground away fans use the same refreshment facilities as home fans and can buy tickets in home areas then once in the ground can switch to the away end I agree wholeheartedly with the strong police presense. - Although one underhand reason for coppers changing to Sunday is so that they can get double time - a point that made to me by an attractive female copper at the recent Portakabin Road game!   But with the changes in pub, bar, club opening times, shopping centres being open on a Sunday and with the heavy police presense there is no good reason why Derby games can''t be played on a Saturday, No one likes Sunday football cause the atmosphere is dead compared to the proper Saturday afternoon and the fact that Norwich rarely perform on a Sunday. If games have to be changed then why not move them to Friday nights where you''d get a great atmosphere like we had at Carrow Road in the late 90''s when we beat them 3-1!   Another thing that makes the local police moving the Derby games to Sunday seem very over the top is the fact that Arsenal/Spurs, Rangers/Celtic and other Derby games around Britain are played on a Saturday!   - Now your not not telling me that Norwich/Ipswich is more high risk than those 2 Derby clashes!   Like the banning of proper terraces where people can stand (and theres thousands including youngsters who do!) moving the Derby games to Sundays stinks cause theres no good reason to do it! [/quote] Well said scott, everything in this post is spot on. Bring back the friday night derbies, what sort of supporter actually enjoys a derby kicking off at noon on a sunday with no atmosphere, no hostility and no chance to get a couple of drinks in before the game? Jesus, the prawn sandwich posters strike again.

[quote user="Hardhouse44"][quote user="fearofambition"]YES! Of course this is ultimately down to our fans. Delia, doncaster and co. would have been hounded out at 90 percent of clubs around the country by now but unfortunately our fans buy into this one big happy family b#####s. Our supporters simply don''t have the passion, ambition or balls to stand up and be counted. The board, the manager and the players must absolutely love working for this club safe in the knowledge they can do pretty much whatever they like and get away with it. And the end of the day it''s the 25''000 sheep who are going to take this club to new depths by not making a stand. Just pray that one day this apathetic, nice and friendly mindset finally leaves a few supporters heads and they see what''s really going on.[/quote] I think we all see what’s going on. Question is what to do. And more importantly how to go about doing it, to make sure we don''t inadvertently make things worse. To call us a sheep and to encourage us not to attend isn''t the answer. Although some will disagree, I strongly feel that would be counterproductive and only deliver a result when things are at an even worse level than now. Possible irretrievable. [/quote] So what is the answer then? You''re not willing to boycott, not willing to protest, so what''s the answer? It''s fans with attitudes like yourself that are the problem ''just sit back and hope for the best''

YES! Of course this is ultimately down to our fans. Delia, doncaster and co. would have been hounded out at 90 percent of clubs around the country by now but unfortunately our fans buy into this one big happy family b#####s. Our supporters simply don''t have the passion, ambition or balls to stand up and be counted. The board, the manager and the players must absolutely love working for this club safe in the knowledge they can do pretty much whatever they like and get away with it. And the end of the day it''s the 25''000 sheep who are going to take this club to new depths by not making a stand. Just pray that one day this apathetic, nice and friendly mindset finally leaves a few supporters heads and they see what''s really going on.

Hmmm, a man who has been our most important and creative player over the last 5 years? A man who truly loves this club and bleeds yellow and green? Or a manager who is tactically inept, has zero man management skills and is clearly a bitter, egotistical spineless individual? Tough choice! Still gotta love the way a lot our fans seem to forget everything darren huckerby has done for this club yet see rodent as the messiah because we scraped survival by a couple of points, it''s really not quite the miracle everyone seems to make out.

The way roeder and the board have treated huckerby is truly a disgrace. Roeder is clearly a spineless, bitter, power hungry individual. He will get on like a house on fire with delia, doncaster and co. It is sickening the way roeder has banged on about dublin the last few weeks to take the attention off the fact he was going to let huckerby go all along. Not to let huckerby or the fans know and give us a chance to give him the send off he deserves is unforgiveable. Get it into perspective, as fantastic as dublin was, he hasn''t done anywhere near as much for this club as darren huckerby. Hucks bleeds norwich city and has been our most important and creative player in years. Personally i''d love to see him join another championship club, come back here and destroy us then see the look on rodent''s face. This club has a cancer running through it from top to bottom. But as long 25,000 seals keep renewing there season tickets and letting these cretins destroy our club nothing is going to change. Good luck wherever you go hucks and thanks for be being one of the very few things to put a smile on my face at this joke of a club. NCFC R.I.P

[quote user="ricky knight"]NNN saturdays result was a blessing to the board, are you really saying had we lost all would have been rosy. I was asked the question, how do we make the board leave, i gave my answer. I know it wont happen, there are too many willing to except the crap we are getting as ok, thats why i will probably never go to a game again, because i will never except it. If the board dont spend minimum 6-7 million in the summer, we will have a repeat season next year imo. If we actually do, or worse, the fans have only themselves to blame.[/quote] Spot on ricky, the problem is the majority of our supporters are as gutless and ambitionless as our board. 25''000 sheep will be there next season no matter what even though the board are going to continue taking the p##s with their ''prudence with ambition'' garbage. The position this club is in is down to delia, doncaster and co, simple as. This summer our board will scrape the barrel again in the transfer market, fans will moan, come on sites like this and type on their computers how angry and disillusioned they are then go to carrow road on match day sit on their hands and not make a sound against the board. I won''t be renewing my season ticket cos like ricky i''m not willing to accept the crap they are dishing out anymore. Giving these muppets in charge another 300 pounds of my money to do god knows what with ain''t happening. Until our supporters grow some balls and let them know they''ve had enough this club is going nowhere but down. On the other hand perhaps the majority of our supporters are happy with the current regime, that''s a pretty frightening thought. 

[quote user="gcb...norwich"]Just a quick message to all the consistent whingers and moaners that i hear week in week out in the lower barclay.................please encourage, support and cheer the lads on to victory tomorrow. What is undoubtedly the biggest game of the season it is imperative that everyone is behind the team, so if you want to moan and groan perhaps kindly keep away!!!![/quote] Yeah well done jcb, have a pop at the only section of the ground (other than half a dozen in the snakepit) who actually have passion and vocally support our players. Perhaps your suggestion is best off aimed at our other 20 odd thousand supporters who sit in the river end, city stand and jarrold stand with their family enjoying a nice day out at carrow road. Maybe they can take their hands from under their a###s, open their mouths and actually show they support this club at least once a season. Not gonna happen though. Gutless and ambitionless supporters makes for a gutless board and ambitionless board.

Oh sorry, you said ONE thing, my mistake.  

The ambitionless, passive, laid back 20''000 sheep who continually turn up supporting players who don''t care and a board that are taking this club to depths not seen for a long long time. Oh and the atmosphere is generally ruined by the supporters who sit in the river end, jarrold stand and city stand who sit on their hands for 90 mins other than to stand up and clap in the unlikely event we score a goal and whom only open their mouths to take a bite out of their home made sandwich and sip some hot bovril. Oh and before anyone comes out with the pathetic obviously a binner remark i am not. Just a well and truly fed up norwich fan.

You''re wasting your time mate, apart from the lower barclay and snakepit there never has and probably never will be any vocal and passionate support. Too many pensioners, children and families who have the money to afford a nice day out at carrow road. That''s what you get when a club focuses all their attention on creating a family culture and nothing else. The fact of the matter is with the majority of our support being the way it is opposing players will always enjoy playing in our laid back friendly atmosphere and the same is probably true of the majority of our players, with the lack of pressure they are put under they know they can get away with not putting 100 % every week. And that is certainly true of the board who can continually take the p##s with their prudence with ambition joke policy, safe in the knowledge that 24,000 sheep will continue to fill the ground and accept what is being dished out to them. Harsh but true.