Middle of the Road

Baldyboy at 3.46 [quote user="baldyboy"]can we now move on weve all had our say on what we thought under worthington now and hes gone, weve said thanks or good riddance but now is time to move on and lookforward to our future under peter grant so please can we stop the stupid posts harping on about the past or the polls about what worthy will do next, or is it that some people just cant move on?[/quote] Baldyboy at 3.06 [quote user="baldyboy"]and only ryan jarvis from the youngsters on the bench with no sign of a defender on the bench either!! hunter is defo a worthy clone!! hope he goes as well now ...but as with worthless its all total crap!! all those from worthys backroom coaches must go!!! [/quote] What a difference 40 minutes makes! How can we take their calls for anything seriously when they say such different things in the space of an hour?

[quote user="It was all yellow"]    What do we have to do as fans to get through to the board? I am shocked and amazed by what they have done this time. Why must we continue to sell ourselves short. This Norwich City, not Norwich United. [/quote] According to CJF the protest have got through to the board which is why Worthington was sacked. In fact he and his brave band of protesters have saved us all.

[quote user="cluckin"] Spot on Foghorn. I takes nerve to stick your head up above the trench and you''ve done it despite the constant knocks. A true supporter sees the bigger picture....a sheep follows the crowd. [/quote] A very summary of the CJF, City Angel, Cluckin and Yellow Fever position. We "the crowd" the poor humble majority are led by the "true supporter(s) that see the bigger picture."

[quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"] Fans who can open the eyes of a Boardroom that would not have sacked him until relegation inevitably arrived, a Board lacking totally in football knowledge, trying to run the football side of the club like a buisiness, not a team of sportsmen like it is. [/quote] 1. You labour under the false impression that it was you and "your brave boys"  that heroically fought for the common fan against the evil board. (Too much Robin Hood perhaps!) The protests achieved nothing excpt divide the fans. 2. You total lack of understanding is displayed when you suggest that anybody that opposed your disruptive tactics supported Worthington. There were thousands of fans that eventually and reluctantly came to recognise that Worthington had to go but they did not find it necessary to join in your childish and disruptive antics with petitions, cheering opposition goals, consistent booing of our own players that was in some cases little short of bullying. 3. But even that is not the point - I just don''t want the likes of you, Jas, Angel etc leading calls for loyalty when you have so little. Even now your post is a thinly disguised attack against the board and Jas makes even less attempt to hide his contempt. 4. Don''t you dare claim that your views are representitive of the majority of WO fans. Many reluctantly felt that they had to take this stand but without all the disruptive, divisive and damaging consequences of the pathetic "movement" that you represent. Even when the dismissal became inevitable, your feeble protests, petitions etc only ever attracted a tiny proportion of fans.

[quote user="FilletTheFishWife ."]Probably there were too many PG Tips ![/quote] Very good!

[quote user="jas the barclay king"] so all Worthy outers (me included) werent Loyal fans then basically?  15 Years a Canary Fan. Accept it, he has gone, go take your bitterness elsewhere. There were lots fo Worthington Fans and very few Norwich fans it seems jas :) [/quote] You either did not read what I wrote, did not understand it or chose to deliberately misrepresent it. Given that the latter was a normal tactic from some in the room, please forgive my suspicion that it is the latter! Let me help you: "Most fans always were loyal to the club and will continue to be so. Even when they recognised that it was time for Worthy to go they did not boo, cheer opponents goals, collect petitions etc." or "Don''t tell us to be loyal - we always were (including many people who felt that Worthy had to go)." I made it quite clear that I am not calling into question the loyalty of most WO fans at all. It was the extreme element, that wasted no opportunity to weaken the foundations of the club in their efforts to get rid of Worthy. Most WO fans did not cheer opposition goals; most WO fans did not boo the team; most WO fans did not forge signatures on petitions; most WO fans did not spread false rumours on this and other boards; most WO fans did not gang up and bully the few in here who were prepared to try to point out some of the positive points of Worthington''s regime. I I have no problem with them at all and please don''t try to pretend otherwise. These are the same divisive tactics that you always used, which is why we are in a mess. It is people like you and Angel who will call for loyalty today and be campaigning against the manager tomorrow. Even in your own loyalty thread (sic) you kick off with "k im not pleased with the board for appointing Grant when there were plenty of better managers available" and follow with "The board are hanging by a tightrope and if they topple then we can say "Told u so." " How long are you going to be loyal for? Not long, I''ll bet.

[quote user="jas the barclay king"] ok im not pleased with the board for appointing Grant when there were plenty of better managers available. [/quote] Good start to trying to unite everybody behind the board there! [quote user="jas the barclay king"] Come January what if he goes out and signs Hayter from Bournemouth, Harper from Reading and Zamora from the hammers? we will all be jumping with delight thinking "what a scoop for the club, that Grants contacts have come good!" [/quote] Like the leading scorer in the premiership is going to come to us on loan! Do you do this deliberately to raise false expectations or do you genuinely believe it? [quote user="jas the barclay king"] when Arsene Wenger joined the club from  Grampus 8 in Japan everyone was saying "who the hell is this no name?" bet they''re not saying it now though huh? [/quote] Ditto - deliberately raising unrealistic expectations. [quote user="jas the barclay king"]  The board are hanging by a tightrope and if they topple then we can say "Told u so" by then we''ll be league 1. But lets wait and see. [/quote] Again - a real call for unity here. This just tries to continue the atmosphere of crisis. Behold the voice of loyalty!

I find the calls for loyalty and to "rally round the new man" from some quarters quite sickening. Of course we should do both but to hear these words from some of the most disruptive of WO posters is galling. Most fans always were loyal to the club and will continue to be so. Even when they recognised that it was time for Worthy to go they did not boo, cheer opponents goals, collect petitions etc. They got on with supporting the team and recognised that if things didn''t get better the board would act. Opposition "fans" used every opportunity to criticise the management. They spoke of a post-Worthington world where everything would be perfect, the huge list of famous names that batter the gates at Carow Road to be manager. They were so determined to get rid of Worthington that no opportunity to attack the club was missed. Now they call for loyalty. Forgive me for being a bit cynical, but for how long? If things aren''t perfect very shortly, I''m sure some of you now calling for loyalty will start up again. Some of you already have for goodness sake! Don''t tell us to be loyal - we always were (including many people who felt that Worthy had to go). It was the WO hardliners who were so disruptive that we disloyal, and you will be the first to start up again if things go wrong. Just in case I am accused of living in the past, I would make 2 points - 1. The "past" accounts for a lot of the hysterical posting we have seen since PG''s appointment. It was exactly the same tactics some WO have been using for nearly 2 years. 2. The "past" may very well be the future as well, when some of the posters loudly calling for loyalty get fed up again if we don''t get instant promotion etc. The rest of us will do what we have always done - support the team whatever happens - even if that means we are saps, lack ambition etc etc. perhaps we are but ...

[quote user="Smudger"]I give him no games at all I''m afraid...  I want the board OUT NOW!!![/quote] Why? Who would you have preferred as manager? You seem to be a victim of the myth that getting people like Curbishly was a realistic possibility. This was just part of the same delusional thinking put about by some  WO fans, similar to a post on another thread that a cardboard cutout would have been better than Worthington. This sort of rubbish could plague the new manager.

A good player and a nice bloke - I have absolutely no idea what sort of coach he would be or even if he intends to be one. Is there anything behind this post or is it just fantasy?

[quote user="Rudolph Hucker"]I wore a tank top in the 70''s along with my bell bottom trousers and froggy feet shoes. I had a lilac shirt with a big collar too. The tank top had multi coloured horizontal bands. God I looked a twat! I thought I was the tits though. All together now.....''Cum on feel the noise, girls grab the boys...........................''[/quote] I''ve been trying hard for 30 years to forget and now you do this!

[quote user="Amarillo"]  But you know what, I wasn''t in the interviews, so I don''t know. And I haven''t seen a PG Norwich team play yet so, I don''t know. [/quote] But you don''t have the insight of most in this room who know the truth long before there is any evidence of anything.

[quote user="cityangel"][quote user="Middle of the Road"][quote user="cityangel"] I''m happy Dicky, Worthy was well past his sell by date and was slowly dragging the club down. Now we have a young, ambitious & passionate manager who will be well up for the new challenge. Lets get behind him and give him a helping hand. [/quote] The vast majority of fans always did their best to help the manager of our team. We shall of course continue to do so but to have lectures in loyalty from organisers and helpers of Worthy Out is annoying! [/quote]   Well I suggest you go and help him find a new job then and then start a new website for his fans!! I thought that you and your mate Getting Off The Fence has left us, what a nice surprise that you havent. [:)] [/quote] You deliberately misrepresent my point. Most City fans get behind the team and the manager at all times - not just when it suits us! I will support us whoever the manager is - unlike you.

[quote user="cityangel"]Theres a fans forum on Thursday so you''ll get your chance to tell them face to face.[/quote] Stirring it up again, Angel? What happened to the protestations of loyalty?

You make it worse with posts like this. The problem started with the so-called WO campaign, which was deeper than just WO. They dreamed (and continue to do so) that if we just spent more money, everything would be alright. A new manager would solve everything, a new chair etc etc. The FBF is largely the result of unrealistic perceptions of our status which regretably is not currently a "top" side but a good club that can catch up if well-managed. The simple fact is that we have no automatic right to success. Complaining because we are not secure in mid - premiership will always bring instability to a club our size. We are not "little Norwich" but nor are we an automatic premiership team. We need to recognise this and yes we need to be patient with managers. How long before some of those that are now calling for loyalty decide that Grant is no longer worthy of their support and start again. They are worse than the extremists because they give the impression of loyalty when it it is wafer thin. Yellow Fever if that makes me a "ktf" so be it, but I don''t want to fight to destroy the club I love.

I will support him as long as he is city manager. I may at times disagree but when he sends our team out I will support him and the team. Sorry that it is so sad of me...

[quote user="blahblahblah"] [quote user="cityangel"]Out of interest Wiz, who was your no1 choice out of the applicants who''d applied?[/quote] Anyone out of our reach, giving you an excuse to rail against the board of directors, by any chance Wiz ? [;)] [/quote] Exactly Blah - remember the confident predictions of Curbishly''s appointment?

Buy up all stocks and hoard them!!

[quote user="cityangel"] According to the nest website Crooky is being lined up to be Grant''s No2. I''m happy with Grant but Grant & Crooky would make me even happier [:D] Link from the nest, hope they don''t mind   http://www.thenest-ncfc.co.uk/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=322 [/quote] I hope it''s true - but is it just made up? How do they know?

[quote user="cityangel"] I''m happy Dicky, Worthy was well past his sell by date and was slowly dragging the club down. Now we have a young, ambitious & passionate manager who will be well up for the new challenge. Lets get behind him and give him a helping hand. [/quote] The vast majority of fans always did their best to help the manager of our team. We shall of course continue to do so but to have lectures in loyalty from organisers and helpers of Worthy Out is annoying!

[quote user="Saint Canary"][quote user="Getting off the fence"] Is that the best you could come up with? So he is the official candidate of the WO party then? Being destructive is easy but you are struggling when it comes to viable alternatives. [/quote] Just being devils advocate here but is not being certain to find a better manager a good reason to stick with one who is failing to meet the clubs ambitions?  Better the devil you know?  Just interested...... [/quote] But to sack one when the best available (that we stand a chance of geting) is Megson is crazy!!!!! The only other alternatives are unlikely to come to Norwich or are at other clubs.

[quote user="Tumbleweed"]If Worthy risks Hux to win these next two games he should be hounded out of town. We can''t make any change except for the worse- Thorne for Earnshaw or Hughes for Robinson? Inspiring stuff. The only one I would make is Jarvis (Ryan variety) for McVeigh who has turned into a dumpy little makeweight.[/quote] Don''t have a go at McVeigh - has more skill in his little finger than the entire WO brigade!

What really gets on my t**s is that they accuse us of being abusive when they never stop being abusive at us. Hardly a sensible argument from most of them.

[quote user="pete"]I hope we don''t win for my sake and the myriads of like minded people who can see where we are going to end up if Brainless is given any more rope [/quote] I bet he is one of the truly loyal fans who will be protesting on Saturday and praying for us to lose! WO are a disgrace!!!!!!!!!

[quote user="TwoSheds"][quote user="Middle of the Road"] Whats the point in your protests? We know Worthy will get sacked if things don''t get better - the board have said as much (and they have done  it in the past). You wouldn''t even be doing it if it wasn''t on the telly. You really are childish group of losers just wanting to see you faces on TV! Anyone over 16 should be ashamed of themselves. [/quote] What a numpty you are! [/quote] This is a typical example of the reasoned argument that we come to expect from WO. On another post they have they accuse us of being abusive!