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Wow @callumallport seems like sharp one - only a glance at his twitter timeline and you can tick off homophobe and racist too. If someone was bothered i imagine it''d be pretty easy to get him banned from CR. Esp if DM was still on twitter!

can''t spell ''lose'' sorry [:$]

There is only one thing this club needs right now. One, very simple thing. And that is, to WIN a game of football. That means the entire club, players staff and fans focussing only on that objective. Yes that is what Hughton said and in this case he''s right. There''s all sorts of sh(t flying around and distractions, none of which help. If you''re an outer it ought to be a win win situation for you because if we win, we move well up the table and level on points with Hull, if we lose Hughton is gone. Unless of course you don''t want another 3 points and to move up the table. Every win from here on in is going to be absolutely critical and 3 prescious points. The chances of 3 points being the difference between survival and relegation this season are VERY VERY HIGH. Anyone who wants us to loose on Saturday is wishing this situation upon us and needs to wake the f**k up. And incidentally, the OP attemping to congratulate and thank people for saying they would rather we loose is utterly ridiculous. "May I thank you and congratulate you for agreeing with me" Hilarious! It''s just an opinion - you don''t get congratulated for having an opinion one way or the other.

Ok, so he resigned in October, that''s ok then. As soon as a club is taken over by series of outside owners and interests it is a house of cards. Vary rarely is there any sort of continuity plan or exit strategy in place so even if you''ve got a good owner, if they leave, it can all come crashing down just as it did at Portsmouth and now looks likely to happen at their neighbours. The current onwer is the daughter of the last owner with a self confessed disinterest in football. If you believe the back pages of the papers tomorrow, half the club is about to walk out! I don''t believe that but it''s a disastrous scenario whichever way you look at it.

McNally is no LESS responsible for our resurgence from L1 to Prem than Cortese is for theirs. Hence replacing DM with someone who is essentially like for like in terms of his record, but liable to walk out of the club at the drop of a hat... would be nuts. This is precisely why I said not one week ago that Cortese was likely to do something stupid at any moment. Ok it might not be stupid for him personally but it most definitely is for the club and all the staff ans fans to dump the club in the way he has.

Cortese for DM - are you nuts? Oh yes, you are! And there''s a reason it''s called Talksh1te !

Neither had Sherwood. Fact is, if we want Hughton gone, there will have to be a few games where we have an interim, and because they are just that, it''s silly to expect the person to be an experienced manager. What harm in giving NA a go just while new guy is secured? And to be honest, i think there will be a bounce as soon as he''s gone just because the situation has reached/is reaching that point where just the fact of him leaving, whether it''s right or wrong, will be a release of tension that might help the players relax. Which would be to the benefit of whoever takes interim charge.

Not passing judgement on if this should or shouldn''t happen. Just observing that it is very likely to happen if/when Hughton goes. Who else would take charge in the interim period? It''s going to be him or the coaching staff but i''d be surprised, even if they didn''t go immediately, if either of them were asked to take it on as they are CH''s men.  

Let''s assume - perhaps wrongly, but lets assume anyway - that Hughton goes in the next week or so. Let''s also assume - i know, but bare with me - that we won''t have someone ready and waiting in the wings to step straight in to the hotseat. Based on these assumptions, the chances are very high that in the next few weeks, Neil Adams will be in charge of first team affairs at the football club. How would he do? Is he ready? A number of people have made valid comparisons between our situation and that at Spurs. Unpopular manager, struggling to make a much favoured 4-5-1 system work, summer departure of influential squad member, big money signings not firing, goal shy team prone to shipping goals at the back... To continue the potential similarities, backroom staff member and former player appointed as manager... immediately switches to more attacking brand of football with so far, some success... I''m not convinced Sherwood will last long at Spurs, and equally i''m not suggesting that Adams would necessarily be the long term solution for us, but like i say, the chances are he''ll get a go and if he does, i''ll be hopeful that he can make a go of it. (There''s another possibility that sees the temporary appointment of Claderwood or Trollope but  i''m ignoring that due to the sheer horror of it)

[quote user="birchfest"]What have them come out and medel like Tan? Do you even understand how a proper football club is run... That really has to be one of the worst posts I''ve ever read on this forum and that''s quite some statement[/quote] THIS ^ [quote user="H4H"]thats the worst post I''ve ever read on this forum…[/quote] AND THIS ^

Just out of interest Mr (or Mrs!?) Prognosticator - what was the last thing you posted before this thread?

...and the clueless guff just keeps coming. God i hope we win the next three games in a row just to stop the sh)t machine from spewing out this stuff. What do you expect them to do "in this type of situation"? Come out on the pitch with a microphone? Oh, you want them to PROVE their loyalty to the club. And their presence and experience and stewardship of the club in the last 18 years proves... what? Their job is to steward the club and provide a stable backcloth for it to operate successfully. McNally is employed to manage that operation. Whether you want them to "lead from the front" (wtf does that mean for an owner?) or be like other owners (some are more prominent than others - Abramovich anyone?) is just irrelevant tbh. They have fulfilled their role perfectly well in the last few years and nursed out club to a healthier position that most of us have ever known. The minute the road gets bumpy it''s SACK THE OWNERS, SACK THE CEO, SACK THE MANAGER. Jeeezus it''s such a f**king cliche and just embarassing to watch most of you. Yes, we''re in a bad place right now, we probably need to change the manager, but it''s nothing we haven''t seen before and nothing that hasn''t befallen several clubs before us this season alone. GROW THE F*** UP.

FFS NO!! There''s already a post on this, from which the below taken. We''d be more screwed without him. [quote user="a1canary"][quote user="RuelFox"] Will need a new 10 year plan after he takes us back to the Championship for failing to act. No backbone whatsoever! For all the good work he has allegedly done (which really was only appointing Lambert and he done the rest) he quickly undone that failing to keep Lambert and hiring Hughton. [/quote] Riiiight. All he did was appoint Lambert? Wow. Absolutely. Clueless. Appointed Lambert, completely restructured the club while in League 1, increased capacity/revenue, wiped out huge debts, kept a steady ship after Lambert departure, gave us the LOWEST wage to turnover ratio in the league - 49% last year (very very important) made the CORRECT appointement in Hughton at the time because he kept us up, oversaw and managed excellent transfer business last summer to give probably best squad ever and best signings ever... But yes, all he really did was appoint Lambert. Hilarious. Yes he faces a new and serious challenge now in deciding what to do with our current situation. But it is every kind of WRONG to say he did nothing for this other than appoint Lambert. [/quote]

[quote user="RuelFox"] Will need a new 10 year plan after he takes us back to the Championship for failing to act. No backbone whatsoever! For all the good work he has allegedly done (which really was only appointing Lambert and he done the rest) he quickly undone that failing to keep Lambert and hiring Hughton. [/quote] Riiiight. All he did was appoint Lambert? Wow. Absolutely. Clueless. Appointed Lambert, completely restructured the club while in League 1, increased capacity/revenue, wiped out huge debts, kept a steady ship after Lambert departure, gave us the LOWEST wage to turnover ratio in the league - 49% last year (very very important) made the CORRECT appointement in Hughton at the time because he kept us up, oversaw and managed excellent transfer business last summer to give probably best squad ever and best signings ever... But yes, all he really did was appoint Lambert. Hilarious. Yes he faces a new and serious challenge now in deciding what to do with our current situation. But it is every kind of WRONG to say he did nothing for this other than appoint Lambert.

[quote user="hertfordyellow"]Due to injuries I think we have had to chop and change the back 4 quite a bit. Can''t think that helps. I do think we miss Turner too. Forget Bassong as the captain, I think Turner is the real leader. Que someone to provide statistics that counter all of that though :) [/quote] Good point re Turner - he''s the sort of character we need at the moment and to be honest i''d put him in in place of Bassong who his all over the place. A shadow of the player he was last term. Turner and Russ would be my preferred central pairing atm. Nothing against Bennett but those two are experienced leaders who lead by example, players you''d want in the trenches with you. Then Gutierrez can go at right back at least while Whittaker sorts himself out.  

It is a puzzle GMD but someone mentioned Sunderland above and how abysmal they looked under DiCanio. Ditto Fulham have been really awful at times, West Brom and West Ham. But they all have - and we have - talented players who, with some confidence and fire in their bellies and that illusive something between their ears, can turn their team''s fortunes around just as many of the above have started to do. That''s ominous in one way but also shows how the big finger of doom - with anyone and everyone in the media shouting from the rooftops about how awful a team is - changes almost from week to week. It has been on Palace and all of the above but it hasn''t really been on us. So far this season we have managed to just about hang on to some sort of form - enough to stay out of the bottom 3 - before the rot really set in. But now we look like we''re about to hit rock bottom like Fulham did under Jol, and Sunderland under Di Canio (and Poyet at times tbf). Hull will confirm this one way or other. The crowd have turned now and without an early goal and a convincing win, a defeat would be almost certain and surely his fate would be sealed. Throughout his tenure to date, everytime we''ve come to the abyss, we''ve managed to pull back. Let''s see if he can do it again... everyone seems to think that this time we''ve gone just too close and it''s easy to see why.

"we used to be scrappers, then it was good passing football" come off it - who were you watching? Rusty''s time at the club did cover some good periods for us but by and large the late 90''s early noughties were a pretty dark period when we played some awful stuff and were lucky to survive in the second tier.   We may have lost Holt but Ruddy, Russ, Wes and more recently Snodgrass are the sort of players that could have carried forward the hero mantle and very much have done in the last few seasons. If everything was going swimmingly this season the opportunity for Hooper to be the new Holt is there for him. Unfortunately if hasn''t worked out as we all hoped and now we''re looking around for players to stand up and not really seeing them. But heros aren''t made from a dire run of results and relegations scraps. They''re made when they''re successful and acheive things for the club. If we can somehow snap out of this dire rut we''re in, new heros could be born or reborn very quickly.

Dead man walking. But for a complete dismantling of Hull a la WBA last year. AND which is carried forward in to the next games. If we beat Hull and lose at home to Newcastle he''ll be gone i think.

Best thread for some time! Even if LDC''s efforts start badly and get steadily worse [;)] I think the OP''s original one is very good - not to mention that i fully agree with the sentiment!

Agree Vos. We need to win a game of football, simple as that. They should quit moaning about it and saying they "could have done without it" and put out whatever team they need to to get a win and take that in to the Hull game. We have good players - they are just crying out for a confidence boost and we need to do whatever we can to get one!

[quote user="GJP"] [quote user="a1canary"]And Lambert made some pretty obscure signings in the summer who we''ve seen very little of - Tonev anyone? Okore?  Now Holt. For me that''s a far bigger gamble Jonas. [/quote] Bit of a side note really but Okore looked like a good enough signing but did his cruciate right at the start of the season. [/quote] Fair enough - wasn''t aware of that. Bacuna and Helenius have hardly set the world alight either. Think is, they are i''m sure decent enough players and he is very much continuing the "young and hungry" (and very green) transfer policy but can that really work if it means a few seasons of flirting with relegation while these young players are toughened up and get some experience? Maybe he''s finally seeing that he needs some older heads.

[quote user="snake-eyes"] Like the Guttierez signing, this is because the manager knows he is in a dog fight.   Lambert knows what he is getting with Holty.  He knows he will work hard and can score goals. This will most likely be from the bench, but it give him cover for Benteke.  It is a temporary fill, but one that makes sense.  When you have a plan and need someone who can fit straight in you go for what you know. Holty will scrap and give defences a problem.   I see the same with Guttierez.   Whilst I don''t like the way we are playing and he would not have been my choice, he fits Hughton''s plans to a T and they know each other well. In this sense it is a logical move.   Only time will tell if they are successful, but I understand them.  I wish GH all the best and when he does score (and he will) just listen to the Holte end roar!   The difference for me is that I don''t see Guttierez being able to have the same impact here.   Snake [/quote] BUT... one of the many things we know about GH is that, rather like a big tanker, he needs a decent run to get up to speed. He was never much use off the bench (Liverpool away not withstanding!), he was much better once he was playing week in week out. The trouble then is, will he get much game time (maybe if Lambert wants to pair him with Benteke), and will his body cope with it if he does? It''s a gamble certainly and there''s no doubt Lambert and Hughton are going back to what they know to try and rescue their dire positions. And Lambert made some pretty obscure signings in the summer who we''ve seen very little of - Tonev anyone? Okore?  Now Holt. For me that''s a far bigger gamble Jonas.

[quote user="MrMcGoo1809"]Morty your the biggest self obsessed w@nker to ever grace this board. You seem to think people would value your "opinions" BUT nobody does!!! Your continuous who-ton brown nosing makes all your opinions invalid!!! Go chat sh1t elsewhere. Much appreciated xx[/quote] I value Morty''s opinions and welcome them - have done since this forum was created in 2003. The same goes for many others over the years. You''ve been here (as ''MrMcGoo'' at least) for 5 minutes - don''t pretend you can come on here and speak for others.

"sadly in your case it hasn''t really risen above having a tantrum and personal abuse" try reading your own posts, it might help. Now please, go away.

Lol - yes, i think that''s a certain someone''s "guide for life"