Darth Vadis

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Not sure I realised quite how much money there is in MLB - their top player is paid $26m per year?! The rest of these salaries are not cheap either... Can someone who knows more about baseball confirm this? That seems mental

Brilliant composure from Kamara, what a goal

Sara been dreadful

We’d need a massive amount of investment - 10 additions at least. 2x quality wingers to compete with Sainz and Rowe 1x CM to compete with Núñez 2x DMs to fill our gaping defensive midfield hole A whole new backline A quality backup keeper to push Gunn Another good striker to push/fill in for Sargent would be needed

Great piece. Is the drummer capable of keeping the timing though... https://x.com/Gary_Gowers/status/1760256204679385589?s=20 Beautifully sung 17 minutes in. Why was it ever changed to the version (drawl in comparison) currently sang?

I prefer the Sainz song to the tune of this classic Heard it earlier this season but it never got going, can't remember the lyrics either

"Stadium development. The club provided an update on the recent feasibility studies undertaken at Carrow Road." Sooo what was the update ?

I keep reading that "we won in spite of those subs" - what a load of ****. Bringing Nunez on and pushing Sara further up with Barnes directly led to goal 3, with the other sub Fassnacht scoring the 4th. The substitutions absolutely made sense to me when watching, as we were being overrun in midfield - Nunez changed that. If it wasn't for an absolute belter of a goal for Watford's second then it would've been 4-1. Entitled and absurd

The booing was pathetic & cringe-worthy. I think Wagner was spot on with what he said - probably the first time I've agreed with something he's done all season!

Crowd need to lift this, terrible atmosphere

Great goal by Swift

His best performance this season

Sainz can ****ing hit them

Exactly, much more influential when he can see what's in front of him and drive forwards. Feel his best position would be on the left of a midfield 3

Sara is so much better deeper, I hope we don't persist with him as a 10

We signed Duffy in June and the home kit was released just over a month later. Suppose we could have tried to sign Mepham as well as Duffy though

So just as an outdated 12000 stadium wasn't right for Brentford & Luton, 27k Carrow Road isn't right for Norwich

If increasing stadium capacity and improving facilities has no benefit then why have Brentford and Luton decided to move from Griffin Park and Kenilworth Road?

Danny Batth is very very bad

Hi @BigFish, the article states there are a number of reasons for the high cost. Palace had an initial budget of £100m in 2017, but has risen to £150m primarily because of inflation. They also had to come to an agreement with Sainsbury's about the purchase of land, which ended up costing several million pounds. We obviously would not have this issue as Ben Kensell stated a few years ago we were able to purchase two? parcels of land behind the City & Barclay stands for something like £500k? Cannot remember the exact figures. Palace also had to find new housing for residents who live within the footprint of the proposed new stand. Again, not an issue for us. They also had to sign an agreement under section 106 of the town and country planning act which would see them committed to spending between £700k - £1m of community improvements. Something else worth noting is that Steve Parish predicts this new stand to provide an extra £20-£30m each season. How this is possible I'm not sure. Finally, modern stadium development is no longer focussed on how many seats you can squeeze into a new stand, but rather the whole 'experience'. A new main stand with "concrete floors, breeze block walls, roller shutters from an industrial site and a couple of beer taps" will cost a lot less than the level of quality and finish than is now expected. It is all about bringing in revenue 7 days a week, rather than a couple of hours on a saturday. Or at the least, getting supporters in a few hours earlier on a Saturday, and keeping them a few hours after. Spurs matchday revenue went from £48m to £108m after they moved into their new ground (yes I know it cost them a billion). Fulham's new stand will have a hotel (that brings in money for the club, not like our poxy holiday inn), health club, and rooftop pool. Palace will have a museum in theirs. Apologies for going off on a tangent there - basically the ridiculous cost for new stadium development is the increase in the price of concrete and steel. But the need for world-class corporate hospitality has added to that number too.

Interesting read on The Athletic about the cost of stadium development. I hadn't realised just how expensive it had gotten over the past couple of years - Crystal Palace's new 13,500 stand estimated to cost an eye-watering £150m. Suggests Attanasio and his property mate (Ressler?) will have to be bloody clever if they ever decide to sort out the City stand. https://theathletic.com/5094612/2023/11/29/football-stadiums-cost-expensive/?source=user_shared_article

Pretending to be a Norwich fan, and doing a terrible job in any case, is infinitely more naff & cringe

How are we winning 3-1? 😂 Not complaining mind

Fisher and Gibbs, really?