KoromaCrab 0 Posted January 10, 2015 Phelen''s tactics or Alex Neils? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBoy7 0 Posted January 10, 2015 http://services.pinkun.com/forums/pinkun/cs/forums/3206853/ShowPost.aspx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Renoir 1 Posted January 10, 2015 Phelans until Howson was sent off. We did well until that point, Phelan obviously knows what he''s doing but Neil was the one who came down to make some very unorthodox tactical decisions that despite being forced into a corner with injuries and losing a man managed to completely blunt Bournemouths attack while giving us an outlet. He very obviously had a motivational effect as well when he got down to the touchline.Phelan deserves massive credit for getting us a result and setting us up correctly today and for getting us in the right frame of mind but Alex Neil''s decisions and influence actually won this one for us today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted January 10, 2015 Phelan''s to start off with as Alex confirmed this because he''s only had a day and a half. When Howson came off Alex then went down apparently to discuss what subs they''d make with Phelan and apparently (says radio norfolk) things got a little bit (mildly) heated. The subs were made, Alex Neil obviously had a lot of input after the sending off which won us the game.Thats how I saw it anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul101 191 Posted January 10, 2015 both/either/or it worked that''s all that matters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted January 10, 2015 Phelan deserves credit.....since he''s turned up our performance has had an upturn.I think Phelan must be kept in the senior coaching role.Yep great to hear Neil come down and influence the last 30 minutes alongside Phelan.Coukd be a very good management team along with Adams back in the u21 set up with Hucks things look bloody good for the future.Big well done Phelan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 547 Posted January 10, 2015 Our last 6 league games under Phelan''s coaching has resulted in 4 wins, a draw and a defeat. I do hope that Neill and McAvoy listen to his ideas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Jenkins 0 Posted January 10, 2015 I don''t get this line of inquiry, we used to get it under Adams and here we go again. Hopefully it''s only for this game because of the late arrival of our manager. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted January 10, 2015 What are you on about Jenkins? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted January 10, 2015 Sorry Jenks but please explain?Phelan has had a huge impact and working alongside Neil will be fantastic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Jenkins 0 Posted January 10, 2015 Agreed Indy I think Phelan working with Neil could be an excellent combination, although Neil is looking to bring in his own guy I believe so things may get a little complicated.The point I was making, clearly a little clumsily due in part to rather too many glasses of Malbec, is that after ever game since Phelan came in there has been a debate about where the credit or blame for a victory or defeat should lie. For me all that matters is we won and the Manager takes the blame or the credit every time.In this case I can see why this issue has been raised, Phelan prepared the team and Neil imputed during the game so fine.A great result, that''s all I I really care about at the moment😘 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy 3,471 Posted January 10, 2015 I agree Jenks but in my mind we look more solid and better in the past 7 league games than we did the previous 7 prior to Phelan coming here.It can only help any novice to have a three time Premier winner wit Man U as part of your coaching staff.Enjoying every minute and feel a tad sorry for Adams....look forwarx to him coming back working alongside Hucks and others in the youth set up....that looks good too. Enjoy the night and a positive new start. Here''s for another win next Saturday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrs miggins 0 Posted January 10, 2015 Correct me if i''m wrong Jenkins but you seem to think there was an anti Adams agenda because people were crediting Phelan with wins and Adams with losses? Whereas people were just stating that Phelan has had a positive impact since he''s come in (imo). However, this is probably one of those things that we''ll have to agree to disagree, because like you allude to; there''s no point arguing about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted January 10, 2015 Hopefully when the new management team settle in these sort of questions will become a thing of the past. I would say without a doubt that the way we set up and the players selected were down to Phelan and Holt whilst the substitutions and the way we set up after going down to 10 men was very much influenced by Neil. But one thing that we can be 100% sure of now was that Phelan was not brought in to replace Adams. Which is why we used to get these inquests after every game since he was brought in to be first team coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricardo 8,034 Posted January 10, 2015 [quote user="nutty nigel"]Hopefully when the new management team settle in these sort of questions will become a thing of the past. I would say without a doubt that the way we set up and the players selected were down to Phelan and Holt whilst the substitutions and the way we set up after going down to 10 men was very much influenced by Neil. But one thing that we can be 100% sure of now was that Phelan was not brought in to replace Adams. Which is why we used to get these inquests after every game since he was brought in to be first team coach. [/quote]Yes, I got that one wrong Nigel. Just goes to prove that what looks obvious to the outsider is not always the right answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted January 10, 2015 We all get plenty wrong Rickyyyyy. I just feel that by doing the right thing for the club and helping make that change of first team coach really cranked up the pressure on Adams for reasons that didn''t exist. Let''s hope it''s all well that ends well and by the summer we are able to look back on a successful season and recognise all the contributions made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Jenkins 0 Posted January 10, 2015 The law of unintended consequences, maybe.😳 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boris 62 Posted January 11, 2015 No idea who is tactics but from video I see at the end that Mike Phelen quick down to dressing room and was only man from bench who not shake hands with Alex Neil.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCDEp3tQcXo&feature=youtu.beWe will see but I think MP and AN not be easy to work together imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foxruels 1 Posted January 11, 2015 [quote user="Boris"]No idea who is tactics but from video I see at the end that Mike Phelen quick down to dressing room and was only man from bench who not shake hands with Alex Neil.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCDEp3tQcXo&feature=youtu.beWe will see but I think MP and AN not be easy to work together imo.[/quote]That''s not right. On the extended highlights on Canary Player you can see Neil and Phelan shake hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boris 62 Posted January 11, 2015 [quote user="foxruels"][quote user="Boris"]No idea who is tactics but from video I see at the end that Mike Phelen quick down to dressing room and was only man from bench who not shake hands with Alex Neil.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCDEp3tQcXo&feature=youtu.beWe will see but I think MP and AN not be easy to work together imo.[/quote]That''s not right. On the extended highlights on Canary Player you can see Neil and Phelan shake hands.[/quote]hope you are right from this video seems like Phelen gone quick ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
