Supportive song for Kyle Naughton

[CanaryDodge84 0]

Lets face it..........The vast majority of people speed on the roads nowadays and he''s just been unfortunate in getting caught. Anyway......here''s my song for him.......

Theres only one Kyle Naughton.......

One Kyle Naughton

He''s fast on the pitch,

And he''s fast in his car.......

Naughton is a Fu**ing superstar!

This must have some legs based on todays news! :-)

[priceyrice 133]

I like it, does naughten have a song yet?

[Yellow Messiah 0]

He''s lean

He''s mean

He took points for the team

Kyle Naughton

Kyle Naughton

[Horse Manure 0]

''Naughton and the wheelies'' anyone?

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

[quote user="CanaryDodge84"]Lets face it..........The vast majority of people speed on the roads nowadays and he''s just been unfortunate in getting caught. Anyway......here''s my song for him....... Theres only one Kyle Naughton....... One Kyle Naughton He''s fast on the pitch, And he''s fast in his car....... Naughton is a Fu**ing superstar! This must have some legs based on todays news! :-)[/quote]

 

I really don''t think that''s true and Kyle Naughton was irresponsible and dangerous, not unfortunate. Speed kills. You sound like Jeremy Clarkson.

 and he can be a bit of a buffoon at times.

 

I like your song though.

[pete_norw 0]

[quote user="BroadstairsR"]

[quote user="CanaryDodge84"]Lets face it..........The vast majority of people speed on the roads nowadays and he''s just been unfortunate in getting caught. Anyway......here''s my song for him....... Theres only one Kyle Naughton....... One Kyle Naughton He''s fast on the pitch, And he''s fast in his car....... Naughton is a Fu**ing superstar! This must have some legs based on todays news! :-)[/quote]

 

I really don''t think that''s true and Kyle Naughton was irresponsible and dangerous, not unfortunate. Speed kills. You sound like Jeremy Clarkson.

 and he can be a bit of a buffoon at times.

 

I like your song though.

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I think the club should dig out that 70''s record Fun Fun Fun on the Autobann, by Kraftwork, German band and play it as he comes out onto the pitch(or perhaps someone is clever enough to do it for here)

[Block Y Seat 176 80]

The wheels on the bus go round and round

round and round.

round and round

H

[Canary_on_the Trent 0]

I''m not sure its right to chant something that condones breaking the law & puts lives at risk.

[First Wizard 0]

You thicko''s shame City, just reflect on what you''ve said on here when sadly a young child gets mowed down and killed by some idiotic, selfish speeding motorist.

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

[quote user="Canary_on_the Trent"]I''m not sure its right to chant something that condones breaking the law & puts lives at risk.[/quote]

 

I viewed the chant as a bit of a harmless mickey take tbh. The O/P''s sentiments behind it are very much at fault though.

 

Let''s hope it is not used, however as it probably does condone Naughton''s driving history, albeit in a light-hearted way.

[TIL 1010 5,246]

[quote user="First Wizard"]You thicko''s shame City, just reflect on what you''ve said on here when sadly a young child gets mowed down and killed by some idiotic, selfish speeding motorist.[/quote]

Now,now Wiz driving at getting on for double the speed limit in a 30mph restricted area and at 100mph on another occassion would hardly hurt anyone in the event of a crash now would it?[;)]

[Syteanric 1]

[quote user="BroadstairsR"]

[quote user="CanaryDodge84"]Lets face it..........The vast majority of people speed on the roads nowadays and he''s just been unfortunate in getting caught. Anyway......here''s my song for him....... Theres only one Kyle Naughton....... One Kyle Naughton He''s fast on the pitch, And he''s fast in his car....... Naughton is a Fu**ing superstar! This must have some legs based on todays news! :-)[/quote]

 

I really don''t think that''s true and Kyle Naughton was irresponsible and dangerous, not unfortunate. Speed kills. You sound like Jeremy Clarkson.

 and he can be a bit of a buffoon at times.

 

I like your song though.

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[canarydan23 4,758]

"Now,now Wiz driving at getting on for double the speed limit in a 30mph restricted area and at 100mph on another occassion would hardly hurt anyone in the event of a crash now would it?"

Spot on! Whereas cars driving at 68mph on a dual carriageway that have an accident are going to escape absolutely fine!

Do people think about the crap they are posting. I have been caught speeding several times and have had 9 points on my licence at one point. It''s not something I am proud of but neither am I ashamed of it. At all instances I know I was driving safely. I know dangerous driving risks lives so I do not do it. I''ll drive at 80mph on a dual carriageway with my daughter in the car, and if anyone wants to then say that because I do that then I am selfishly endangering my daughter''s life then they had better be able to handle themselves.

The vast majority of accidents, as I am sure an ex-copper is aware, are caused by driving error. If you are unfortunate enough to be involved in an incident where a driver has made an accident-causing error, then whether you are driving at 70mph or whether you are driving at 80-90mph is going to make very little difference to what happens to you.

[Son Ova Gunn 165]

[quote user="Canary_on_the Trent"]I''m not sure its right to chant something that condones breaking the law & puts lives at risk.[/quote]

Are you equally uncomfortable with songs about beastiality with sheep, murding prostitutes or many other of the chants and songs you hear at any football ground? Im sure if he had of run over a child there would be no suggestions of a chant for him but he didnt, so it would be just some leg pulling with no harm surely?

[CanaryDodge84 0]

Oh do calm down...........I''m not condoning Naughton breaking the speeding limit. It is obviously against the law and he shouldn''t have done it. But hes got his fine ad long term ban so he nows faces the consequences of "being caught". How many people actually drive at 70mph on a motorway or ensure that their speedo doesn''t go slightly over in a 30 or 40 zone!? I would argue with anybody if they said they have never speeded in their life. Sometimes you do it without even knowing or thinking. Yes.....you can say that a child could be killed which is why the argument for not speeding will always be the right and true one. I''m just merely stating that i feel everybody speeds or has done at some point while driving........its just the unfortunate ones that get caught like Naughton has. He been stupid, hes been caught, hes got to deal with the consequences now. Human beings are not perfect and never will be.

[Canary_on_the Trent 0]

So would you tell a grieving parent to calm down after their son/daughter have been hit by a motorist breaking the law?

[CanaryDodge84 0]

So you telling me you have never sped in your life?

[Son Ova Gunn 165]

[quote user="Canary_on_the Trent"]So would you tell a grieving parent to calm down after their son/daughter have been hit by a motorist breaking the law?[/quote]

No I wouldnt tell them to calm down, they have every right to be upset at people trivialising the dangers of speeding but calling those chanting ''the wheels on the bus go round and round'' morons? really?. This is a football game, just about every chant has the possibility to offend someone or other. singing songs about shooting burglers should be banned just in case Mrs Barras is in the crowd? chants about being a fat bast**d banned because it offends all the overweight people or those upset by swearing?

It would be different if Kyle had actually hurt someone yes, and yes some chants are banned and with bloody good reason but honestly, if i wanted to go to a church on a saturday afternoon i would and my expectations there as opposed to a football ground would be very different.

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

[quote user="CanaryDodge84"]So you telling me you have never sped in your life?[/quote]

 

What''s that got to do with it? Most might have, on occasions, most would not by habit and most would normally abide by the Law. Don''t kid yourself otherwise. Ridiculous argument.

 

Kyle Norton has been convicted five times, yes five times and he is only twenty three. He is/was a serial offender and as such was a danger to others. He was irresponsible to the extreme and, at some of those speeds was lucky not to have done himself or others serious or even fatal injury. I personally think he got off lightly. Just because he plays for NCFC does not mean that we have to bend over backwards to excuse his lawbreaking.

 

Your stance that he was unfortunate to be caught is risible under those circumstances  

[Henry 0]

Think a little bit of perspective is needed here.

This is about a tongue in cheek song for one of our players, not a discussion about the rights and wrongs of speeding. Think a few people need to take a step back and recognise that. The OP perhaps could have used better language.

There are certainly worse songs around the grounds, and far more morally objective.

Lighten up everyone.

[BroadstairsR 2,273]

[quote user="Henry"]Think a little bit of perspective is needed here. This is about a tongue in cheek song for one of our players, not a discussion about the rights and wrongs of speeding. Think a few people need to take a step back and recognise that. The OP perhaps could have used better language. There are certainly worse songs around the grounds, and far more morally objective. Lighten up everyone.[/quote]

 

Not quite the case though is it. The O/P has tried to defend his stance. That being that we all speed and that Naughton was "unfortunate."

 

Clearly he''s a youngster, but it''s not heavy minded to put him right over this matter. The chant is OK upto a point, until you think more deeply into it. 

[Yobocop 1,442]

[quote user="canarydan23"]"Now,now Wiz driving at getting on for double the speed limit in a 30mph restricted area and at 100mph on another occassion would hardly hurt anyone in the event of a crash now would it?" Spot on! Whereas cars driving at 68mph on a dual carriageway that have an accident are going to escape absolutely fine! Do people think about the crap they are posting. I have been caught speeding several times and have had 9 points on my licence at one point. It''s not something I am proud of but neither am I ashamed of it. At all instances I know I was driving safely. I know dangerous driving risks lives so I do not do it. I''ll drive at 80mph on a dual carriageway with my daughter in the car, and if anyone wants to then say that because I do that then I am selfishly endangering my daughter''s life then they had better be able to handle themselves. The vast majority of accidents, as I am sure an ex-copper is aware, are caused by driving error. If you are unfortunate enough to be involved in an incident where a driver has made an accident-causing error, then whether you are driving at 70mph or whether you are driving at 80-90mph is going to make very little difference to what happens to you.[/quote]

There''s a big difference between driving 68 mph on a 70 mph (national speed limit) road and driving 68 mph on a 30 mph road though isn''t there?

I think thats the point that many of you are missing...we may as well start singing songs about Luke McCormick and Lee Hughes in ''SUPPORT''?!?! 

Get fuck1ing real

[Henry 0]

Not really much point trying to argue as you have the moral high ground. Myself .... i prefer to find a little bit of sunshine in this bleak world. Have a bit of fun and look at life in a light-hearted manner. Guess i am in the minority. Oh well :)

[Yobocop 1,442]

[quote user="Henry"]Not really much point trying to argue as you have the moral high ground. Myself .... i prefer to find a little bit of sunshine in this bleak world. Have a bit of fun and look at life in a light-hearted manner. Guess i am in the minority. Oh well :)[/quote]

Sorry Henry, don''t see an argument here mate, there''s nothing wrong with a bit of sunshine and having a bit of fun, but in my eyes and certainly in the eyes of the law this is not something to joke about...I''m sure Naughton himself wouldn''t want the ''support'' for what he has done and in fact the club could be cute here and Naughton could front any campaigns about road safety?

 

Sorry but I don''t really see how morals are bought into it here, if you morally believe its ok to drive at 53 mph in a built up area then that''s up to you.  

 

Sorry to be a killjoy everyone but I don''t think we should ''support'' potentially life threatening actions...

[Henry 0]

[quote user="Give Peas a Chance "]

[quote user="Henry"]Not really much point trying to argue as you have the moral high ground. Myself .... i prefer to find a little bit of sunshine in this bleak world. Have a bit of fun and look at life in a light-hearted manner. Guess i am in the minority. Oh well :)[/quote]

Sorry Henry, don''t see an argument here mate, there''s nothing wrong with a bit of sunshine and having a bit of fun, but in my eyes and certainly in the eyes of the law this is not something to joke about...I''m sure Naughton himself wouldn''t want the ''support'' for what he has done and in fact the club could be cute here and Naughton could front any campaigns about road safety?

 

Sorry but I don''t really see how morals are bought into it here, if you morally believe its ok to drive at 53 mph in a built up area then that''s up to you.  

 

Sorry to be a killjoy everyone but I don''t think we should ''support'' potentially life threatening actions...

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Haven''t got the words to discuss this at this time on a Saturday morning.... thank you Amigo''s .... but as much as i agree with you on the road safety issue, poking fun at one of our own players will not necessarily turn him into an even greater risk to the general public. I would like to suggest that Naughton is not the first, nor will be the last young footballer to have these kind of problems. Hopefully this ban will bring him to his senses.

Still like the song though ;)

[dhickl 0]

[quote user="haisbrohacker"]The wheels on the bus go round and round

round and round.

round and round

H[/quote]

Good idea, or how about an adaptation/verse 2...

Naughton on the bus to the training ground

Training Ground

Training Ground

[lake district canary 0]

[quote user="canarydan23"]"Now,now Wiz driving at getting on for double the speed limit in a 30mph restricted area and at 100mph on another occassion would hardly hurt anyone in the event of a crash now would it?" Spot on! Whereas cars driving at 68mph on a dual carriageway that have an accident are going to escape absolutely fine! Do people think about the crap they are posting. I have been caught speeding several times and have had 9 points on my licence at one point. It''s not something I am proud of but neither am I ashamed of it. At all instances I know I was driving safely. I know dangerous driving risks lives so I do not do it. I''ll drive at 80mph on a dual carriageway with my daughter in the car, and if anyone wants to then say that because I do that then I am selfishly endangering my daughter''s life then they had better be able to handle themselves. The vast majority of accidents, as I am sure an ex-copper is aware, are caused by driving error. If you are unfortunate enough to be involved in an incident where a driver has made an accident-causing error, then whether you are driving at 70mph or whether you are driving at 80-90mph is going to make very little difference to what happens to you.[/quote]

 

 

Driving at 80 on a dual-carriageway is more dangerous than driving at 60 - stopping time, less time to think if something happens (driver error/blow out/animal in road, etc)   so in a way you are driving more dangerously by doing that.    Why do you want to drive at 80?  Because it makes you feel better to drive fast - so it is selfish and it is speeding.    

 

Your last sentence is just ridiculous.

 

 

 

 

[JF 694]

You are talking about a football match chant here, If you break it down there are very few chants that wouldn''t offend somebody, For example I was one of a few posters that thought the Bale chimp chanting was disgusting and was duly shot down by people on this board. Bit of perspective needed, He hasn''t hurt anyone, He has been caught and punished and this is a tongue in cheek chant. If anything serious had happened it would be very different, but it didn''t.

[CanaryDodge84 0]

Crikey!  Ok, at the end of the day.  It was supposed to be a "tongue in cheek", light hearted song based on what Naughty boy Naughton has done.  All i''m saying is, when i''m driving on a motor way or duel carriage way and might slightly sway over the speed-limit there is a continuous and steady flow of cars in the lane beside me roaring past at what ever speeds they may be doing over the speed-limit. 

It happens on a daily basis, it''s wrong and against the law.  it''s as simple as that.  But it happens and until you are caught people won''t think to stop what they are doing or feel it is "wrong".

How many times have you been doing over the speed limit approaching a speed camera and when you see it slow right down to the correct speed because the camera is there and you don''t want to get caught!?

it''s just human nature for a lot of people. 

It''s like somebody working on a till or sorting out the books for a company and they may be taking money from the till occasionally or fiddling the books to gain some money themselves........If you were thsi way in-clined, you wouldn''t stop doing this until it got to a point where you were found out and caught.

Or you may smoke, drink and have an unhealthy diet and one day suffer a heart attack or other health related issues.  At that point you would probably stop drinking so much, smoking and cut down your diet.
I love a good few drinks at the weekend and will be the first to admit that i don''t have a healthy diet what so ever.  But i enjoy it and that''s my choice.  If and when something was to happen then i would more than likely than have to stop and change my ways. 

There are many, many examples of things in life we do as human beings that are "against the law" in minor and some in major ways. 

I can''t condone the implications of a little boy running into the road and hitting him at 40 miles an hour when i should be doing 30.  Luckily, i have never hit anybody or anything in my years of driving whether it''s 5 mph or 70mph. 

There are huge implications for breaking the law.  it''s there for a reason and if everybody was to abide by it then there would ultimtaley be less heart-ache in the world in general.

In the grand scheme of things, Kyle Naughton i''m sure isn''t a bad person.  he''s made some silly mistakes in relation to driving over the speed limit but except for the fine and ban for himself, nothing else bad has come of it.

Luke McCormack was a different kettle of fish altogether i''m afraid.  he commited a crime i can''t and won''t ever condone.............drink driving!  He obviously never set out to kill anybody and is probably a genuine, kind-hearted human being but has made a mistake that''s destroyed the lives of many, including his own.  The implications of his actions are of teh greatest magnitude.  He should ahve never have got behind the wheel of a car while under teh influence, it''s as simple as that.  if i was in his shoes right now, i don''t think i could carry on with life knowing what i had done.  he has to live with that now forever.

Human beings make mistakes............thats why there are laws, penalties and courts. 

The Kyle Naughton song is just supposed t be a light hearted joke for a song.  The fact that you look at it from the worst case scenario point of view of killing somebody i can''t argue with i''m afraid as you are right.

The thing is there are if, buts, maybe''s and regrets connected with alot of things we do on a daily basis.  I bet Kyle Naughton is feeling these emotions now while sitting on public transport to get to work. 

I make all types of mistakes in my life but it''s all about learning from them and bouncing back as a better person.  I''m sure naughton will after this experience.

And apologies to those who the song offended............this was not the intention at all.

Is singing a song about taking a bomb down to Portman Road and watching it explode inciting Terrorism?  I don''t think so.  It''s light heartened banter.  I have no intention of paying AlQueda a visit and purchasing a bomb.  It was just supposed to be a light hearted way of showing soem support for our player as i''m sure he''s feeling a bit of a fool right now.  If he has injured or done worse to someone thsi song wouldnt have even entered my head.