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The Premier League title race appears to be between the two

Manchester Clubs.

 

Below them is the battle for Champion’s League places and

for the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal the consequences of failure outweigh the

need for the top two to win the league itself because the loss of revenue and

top player attraction would hit them hard. In the same battle group are Spurs

who are surely ahead of their business plan and more aspirational then

desperate.  Here are five sides with

everything to play for.

 

Below this group is overachieving but inconsistent Newcastle

with underachieving and inconsistent Liverpool. They are highly unlikely to

fall to 8th place or attain 5th and on any given day can

be a great result for anyone else in the league.

 

Then we come to the main group, topped by Stoke in 8th

and falling by a mere 5 points to West Brom in 15th place.  If history is anything to go by one of this

tight knit pack will fall like a stone and end up relegated.

 

In 16th is enigmatic QPR who could grow under Hughes

or implode, get relegated and suffer high contracts in The Championship I

suspect.  The good news for Norwich City

is QPR have already yielded us 6 points so have nothing else to give us except competition

for our rivals or one less relegation spot.

 

In 17th is Bolton, just above the bottom 3 by one

point and 10 points behind Norwich. We have done for them at their place and it

is vital we beat them in the forthcoming game at FCR.

 

Wigan are beginning to come adrift at the bottom and Wolves

look to be in trouble, again we held both away, but with them are free scoring

Blackburn who genuinely have good players and fighting spirit. I do not expect

either Bolton or Blackpool to suffer relegation.

 

The reason I titled this thread ‘The Gathering Storm’ is

because I can see most established sides galvanising themselves. It has taken

an excellent run of results for Norwich City to maintain 9th place

and the growing strength of the main group has begun to show signs of cutting basement

sides adrift and catching up on the likes of Liverpool, Newcastle and even

Arsenal.

 

Blackpool lost to previously underperforming established

sides that have been around the block and know, as do the top sides, how to

make a run in.  Gary Neville tonight made

an interesting point about the strength of title winning sides come March and others

have previously commented how this is a key month. In the past two seasons Paul

Lambert has ground out some vital results and built momentum through this

period and in avoiding relegation the established Premier league sides do the

same time and again to send the newcomers back down again.  They play it almost like a mini season and collectively

it powerfully sucks down the unwitting.

 

Sunderland is safe, but Bolton will see us as just such a

key result and this could be one of the main matches of the season.

 

Of course, we all hope to keep picking up points towards the

40 target before the scrap begins and we would like to see the bottom sides

continue to slide.  Whether a cup run at

this time is a help or a hindrance only time will tell but we don’t have a

fixture backlog to content with yet.

 

Those who point out the one game at a time mantra are

correct and this thread isn’t about Norwich City in isolation because of how we

currently sit in the table and how we are performing.  What it is about is the volatility of being

in a tight league. 

 

This weekend, the top mainly played itself but coming up the

top teams with something to play for will hopefully take points off our rivals

(as Chelsea failed to do to us).

 

This is as exciting as chasing promotion for me. Every game

truly counts and with the prize money and prestige we currently sit second  in a league within the Premier League and the

sooner we pick up points the better we can avoid what is going to be one

massive scrap below us which is now beginning to brew.

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Good post Rudolph. And it''s a good point about how exciting the rest of the season can be even for teams in mid-table. In the Championship you have the excitement of the race for the play offs to keep the season alive. In this league it''s the race for cash. And at £800,000 per position that''s a lot of excitement and cash. Just don''t like these "leagues within a league". But being second in your league is better than the mini league we got promoted from last month[;)]

 

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40 target"absolute NONSENSE !That was one seasonWhy not claim that six goals is the target because in one game Man City hit five past us  ?In reality the bottom three have pretty much doubled the points total they had at the halfway stage. The only variation being that one of the places might be exchanged but the points total is the same.

There is one glimmer of light as a measure of thought - that is some are at last beginning to take on board the value of league placings ie £800,000 a place. 9th gives us £9.6m. That is something to be fighting to retain.Personally I believe we have the ability to hit 7th - and that;s what the club will be aiming for. The same club that ruthlessly hauled us upo from a 1-7 defeat to walking the league, who slapped numerous folk about, fatties being charged more for their grub, spiving kids cheating on their tickets, lying NOTW. Then set about the Championship with the same hard faced zeal getting us promoted and with a gnats chuff of taking the title, and pushing the income up dramatically.All that and then they are going sit back and watch the club go through one of it''s worst periods in it''s history by taking a couple of points or so from it''s last 16 games just so that it can pander to the stupidity of a few forelocking tugging morons whose dream is that we scrape home in 17th place. An extra £10m plus is going to go a long way to given us a stronger squad come next Sept 1st than ever is cowering at the bottom of the table.Points wise we have been slowly pulling away from the bottom three and closer to the likes of Liverpool, Newcastle and Arsenal. That is spite of the fact that so many of the whingers and whiners were saying the second half of the season would be the hardest. Well, we have picked up 7 points out of 9 so far.  Form that would have us winning the title if it were carried through out the season. Bit much for three games but go back to the hammering at Man City and our form since then would have us 5th most seasons.Unfortunately our success has meant that it has swept up a whole bundle of the low witted who would have that setting out to beat QPR, West Brom and Chelsea means we are more likely to be relegated ! If ever relegation was a factor then surely even the most simple minded must grasp that the more points you gain the less likely you are to be relegated. Our current position would affirm that - but no the whining bleat keeps being heard. "We''ll accept a complete collapse in the teams form and the worst run in our clubs history so we can be 17th, if you don''t mind .. we are ever so ''umble"Thank god we have got a board, a manager and the players we have and not the spineless, grovelers that called themselves ''fans''.  5th place and Europe is what we are after and as Henry the V said " Once more into the breach dear friends ". Sixteen games to go and so lets bang a few heads and achieve something ...... and if we are lucky a tilt at Wembley into the bargain as well. Up and at ''em.Doomsday, my backside. Best days ever to be a City fan !

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Just been trolling through the archives to find a link to that £800k per position statement and here''s one - http://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/norwich_city_break_record_again_39m_heading_for_carrow_road_1_902838

If you can''t open it then here''s the main snippet:-

"On top of that, every place in the Premier League table is worth £756,000 – West Ham received that amount and Manchester United £15.1m."

The other statement of note was this:-

"Facility fees of £582,000 are paid to a club every time they play in a live television match – with a minimum income of £5.82m even if a club has been involved in fewer than 10 live games."

So you''d assume the better we do (or the higher we stay), the more we''ll be televised and thus the more money we''ll get. We''ve got a total of 6 live matches on Sky by the 1st of Feb, but I assume there''ll be more lined up from Feb to the end of the season. If we keep playing well we''ll hopefully get more than 10 games televised by the end of the season and that''ll boost the kitty nicely with £582k extra per game on top of the guaranteed minimum of £5.82m

Either way, the higher we finish the better! It will be hard as hell with the last run of games we have though. A top half finish would be utterly incredible imo

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You know City1st

You are one of the most arrogant, petty mean spirited individules I have ever had the displeasure to read.

Do you actually read the crap you post, full references such as morons and stupid and god knows what else you choose to aim with the sweeping general style of writing about other fans.

Iam using my iPad to read this, and so I double tapped to expand the text and couldn''t see who was writing what post.

I get to yours, and knew after 6 lines it was you posting. I slide the screen over, and sure enough, City1st next to it.

You have a massive ego problem, constantly feel the need to belittle everyone and everything.

All you do is come over as some passed over wanna be journalist, having not made it, it''s turned you bitter and very unpleasant indeed.

I very rarely resort to violence anymore, but you are one individual that I would make an exception for.

You are everything that wrong on this board, and frankly one of the reasons I don''t post anymore , that should give your over inflated ego a boost .

No matter.

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I too can recognise a City 1st post. But I always find it refreshing. The wording esp in that post might be a bit ott but I love the optimism and he/she has a point. I cant waiting to get to the magic 40 point mark which is more than enough points but I''m just enjoying each game now and wanting the team to drive on , push on and finish as high as we can. I want us to qualify for Europe. I want us to win the fa cup. Under Lambert we are only used to winning and his teams get stronger as the season goes on. I think we will pick up more points this half that the 1st half of the season. the bar has been raised . If we finish 7 and or win the cup we would be able to attract better players being in Europe and being established. I certainly don''t look down anymore. I look at the table after each game and see if we have made up.any ground on the teams above us

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I totally agree with the op, they are my thoughts exactly. It is quite

possible that established clubs like Everton, who start slowly will

overhaul us as will Villa. I can see us

finishing in about 11/ 12th. Rightly the op draws attention to the fact that

there is often a surprise package that is drawn into the scrap during

the last few weeks, can''t see it being us though.Oh and  I agree with english about City1st. I realise that as a newby my thoughts are not worth a stuff, even though I have been watching NCFC for 50 years. I mentioned being likened to a spineless groveller and a whinging,whining low witted person to my son who just laughed and said,''Don''t worry dad you get kn*bs like that on every forum!

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What is the problem of having a minimum 40 point target - yes this year  we will need a lower numbet to survive but surley 40 pts is likely to set us up for a 10-13 place?   Once we hit 40 why not 45?   

 

We can finish this season comfortably - and you ensure safety by setting little milestones;  that does not limit them to the whole of your aspirations! 

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My thoughts exactly ZLF.

The 2 incremental steps in terms of risk/reward are 17-18th & 4-5th. Accuse me of ''little ole Norwich'' or whatever you like to tag people with but we''re not going to challenge for 4th, of course you believe we will.

We''ve got to take it on a game by game basis but the first target is 17th & the confirmation of further Premier League revenue. Once that is assured we move on to finishing as high as possible, anything up to 7/8th is possible in my eyes.

Most of the sides in the league are incredibly well matched so we''ve got to take it a game at a time, otherwise we''ll come unstuck. We''ve got to perform well to get anything from any game but as we''ve shown so far, we fear nobody!

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[quote user="York Canary"]

Just been trolling through the archives to find a link to that £800k per position statement and here''s one - http://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/norwich_city_break_record_again_39m_heading_for_carrow_road_1_902838

If you can''t open it then here''s the main snippet:-

"On top of that, every place in the Premier League table is worth £756,000 – West Ham received that amount and Manchester United £15.1m."

The other statement of note was this:-

"Facility fees of £582,000 are paid to a club every time they play in a live television match – with a minimum income of £5.82m even if a club has been involved in fewer than 10 live games."

So you''d assume the better we do (or the higher we stay), the more we''ll be televised and thus the more money we''ll get. We''ve got a total of 6 live matches on Sky by the 1st of Feb, but I assume there''ll be more lined up from Feb to the end of the season. If we keep playing well we''ll hopefully get more than 10 games televised by the end of the season and that''ll boost the kitty nicely with £582k extra per game on top of the guaranteed minimum of £5.82m

Either way, the higher we finish the better! It will be hard as hell with the last run of games we have though. A top half finish would be utterly incredible imo

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[quote user="Bryangunnshairline"]I too can recognise a City 1st post. But I always find it refreshing. [/quote]

 

Me too. As you say he can be a little OTT and calling other City fans morons and halfwits is bound to upset a few but at least he seems to get what the club are achieving and how they are doing it. This insistence by some that 40 points is all that matters and that 17th would be a great achievement when we sit proudly in 9th place I find quite baffling. We''re seven points off 5th and eleven points off 18th. Why can''t people look up rather than down. The three teams above us all lost on Saturday. That''s a good thing isn''t it? Not according to some because they lost to teams below us!

 

What we (and Swansea to a certain extent) have shown this season is that there is really nothing to fear from some of the so called ''established Premier League clubs'' that float around the middle of the table. Too many people look at the money spent on their teams and automatically assume that we can''t possibly compete with them long term. But when I look at them I see perhaps three or four very good players (which is mostly where that money has been spent) in many teams who could hurt us backed up by players who are really no better than ours. The strength of our squad lies in the fact that they are all at a similar level in terms of talent. Our captain and top scorer for the past two seasons has started as many games on the bench as he has on the pitch. I don''t think we''ll see the peaks and troughs that affect many teams form affect us because of that. Remember that prior to this season Lambert had not lost two league games in a row.

 

We should be aiming for seventh I reckon with Stoke maybe distracted by Europe and Newcastle struggling to cope without Ba and Tiote for the next few weeks. If Man City or Liverpool win the League Cup that should open up a further Europa League place and if one of the top six (or us [;)]) wins the FA Cup we''ll be tasting European football next season. Bethnal Y&G reckons you get £5million for qualifying for the group stages of the Europa League which coupled with the extra prize money earned for our league position should give us enough to enjoy our Thursday nights without fear of any negative impact on our league performance.

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[quote user="ZippersLeftFoot"]

What is the problem of having a minimum 40 point target - yes this year  we will need a lower numbet to survive but surley 40 pts is likely to set us up for a 10-13 place?   Once we hit 40 why not 45?   

 

We can finish this season comfortably - and you ensure safety by setting little milestones;  that does not limit them to the whole of your aspirations! 

[/quote]Because we are better than that.  It''s a fact Paul Lambert aims for the best possible. I''m sure he''s looking up rather than down, so all this,  ''40 points for survival is a complete waste of time''.  Why should we as supporters sit here worrying about survival, when behind the scenes Lambert is saying to the players, ''right you lot, we can take a Euro spot if we keep it going''.

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The mantra Lambert sets out to the players and supporters is one designed to manage expectations and dispel pressure, hence when asked Ruddy will identify the 40 point target and Lambert constantly identifies us as ''new boys'' with a League 1 heritage playing in the Premier League.

 

Supporters like to dream and be aspirational and this is what being a football fan is all about.

 

The key thing for me is that underneath it all Paul Lambert is a man on a mission. He wanted out of League One first time and the Championship consolidation mantra was in reality one of acheiving until the January window, eyeing the prize and persuading the Board to finance the acheivable - hence the loans and new players. In the same light Lambert will not simply expect survival of himself he will be aiming much higher but he is not going to pressure himself or his players by communicating that.

 

I thought the home support last Saturday got it absolutely right and the press comments about Norwich fans celebrating a draw as if it was a victory missed the point. Arsenal would have done the same yesterday as would Spurs; the context was one of salvaging a game. We did better than that. The fact Chelsea missed chances is irrelevant as sides do so week in and week out, it is part of the game. The fact is we kept shape and discipline in a pure form of football that the crowd recognised, bought into and backed. The clean sheet we needed to boost confidence was a big one and we saw that too. The support was excellent.

 

The kind of talk that sees us acheiving a higher place or maintaining 9th is one that can lead to disillusionment should the opposite happen and for no good reason we put pressure on ourselves. The point of this thread was to highlight that, however poorly they have done so far the established sides will turn it on in the last third of the season as they generally do. The best thing for City is to garner points early so they are not in the pressure cooker as will be QPR.

 

For interest here is the Statto predicter table:

 

English Premier League : Statto Index Ratings

Current 50-Game

Averages
50-Game F''castPoints
Index Trend 1-10 11-20 21-30 31-40 41-50 High Low
1 Manchester

United
959 -2 962 964 957 963 963 970 953 85
2 Manchester

City
949 +3 947 937 912 912 907 950 902 87
3 Chelsea 925 -3 927 933 939 932 944 960 921 70
4 Tottenham

Hotspur
924 -2 928 918 906 915 907 932 895 75
5 Arsenal 902 -9 914 905 921 933 926 938 898 62
6 Liverpool 899 -7 908 904 902 890 897 913 880 60
7 Newcastle

United
884 -2 887 887 868 871 869 899 862 59
8 Everton 876 -6 881 892 899 893 896 905 876 47
9 Aston

Villa
875 0 874 883 878 875 881 890 868 48
10 Fulham 875 +4 870 867 873 861 854 878 845 48
11 Stoke City 868 0 867 865 862 862 864 875 849 51
12 Sunderland 862 +9 850 850 853 871 870 880 839 46
13 Norwich

City
860 +10 849 839 829 818 806 860 797 48
14 West

Bromwich Albion
860 0 859 859 861 841 853 866 837 45
15 Swansea

City
846 +8 837 824 812 815 810 849 805 43
16 Blackburn

Rovers
844 +3 838 849 854 863 872 877 828 35
17 Bolton

Wanderers
836 +6 827 837 859 861 867 872 820 36
18 Wolverhampton Wndrs 834 -3 837 845 848 841 833 861 827 34
19 Wigan

Athletic
832 -6 839 844 850 839 835 859 829 30
20 Queens Park

Rangers
826 -3 831 835 830 829 818 843 814 34

League Points Forecast is based on 38

games Index graph over

the last 50 games Trend

value of +3 or more Trend

value of -3 or less Trend value of between -2 and +2, close to

level

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[quote user="the1englishman"]You know City1st You are one of the most arrogant, petty mean spirited individules I have ever had the displeasure to read. Do you actually read the crap you post, full references such as morons and stupid and god knows what else you choose to aim with the sweeping general style of writing about other fans. Iam using my iPad to read this, and so I double tapped to expand the text and couldn''t see who was writing what post. I get to yours, and knew after 6 lines it was you posting. I slide the screen over, and sure enough, City1st next to it. You have a massive ego problem, constantly feel the need to belittle everyone and everything. All you do is come over as some passed over wanna be journalist, having not made it, it''s turned you bitter and very unpleasant indeed. I very rarely resort to violence anymore, but you are one individual that I would make an exception for. You are everything that wrong on this board, and frankly one of the reasons I don''t post anymore , that should give your over inflated ego a boost . No matter.[/quote]

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I agree that the next few games are going to be crucial. We must not make the mistake of thinking the hard work is done. On the face of it we have some winnable games coming up against sides below us or around us in the table but by the same token they will also see us as beatable and were we to have a dodgy run we could suddenly find several teams overtaking us and breathing down our necks. Bolton have hit a bit of form and following our game their next two are Arsenal and Chelsea so they will really be targetting our game for three points.

Sunderland, Bolton, Swansea, Man United, Stoke, Wigan, Newcastle, Wolves, Fulham, Everton.

Our next 10 games before a tough run in. Keep going as we have done as we could/should be pretty much safe by the end of that run.l Get compacent or take our foot off the gas and we could still get sucked back in.

The good thing is we know Lambert will not allow us to get complacent and our ability to pick up points on the road makes me confident we can do what we need to do. Sunderland, Swansea and Stoke away are all tough places to go but I think we will win at least one of them.

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Current 50-Game

Averages
50-Game F''castPoints
Index Trend 1-10 11-20 21-30 31-40 41-50 High Low
1 Manchester

United
959 -2 962 964 957 963 963 970 953 85
2 Manchester

City
949 +3 947 937 912 912 907 950 902 87
3 Chelsea 925 -3 927 933 939 932 944 960 921 70
4 Tottenham

Hotspur
924 -2 928 918 906 915 907 932 895 75
5 Arsenal 902 -9 914 905 921 933 926 938 898 62
6 Liverpool 899 -7 908 904 902 890 897 913 880 60
7 Newcastle

United
884 -2 887 887 868 871 869 899 862 59
8 Everton 876 -6 881 892 899 893 896 905 876 47
9 Aston

Villa
875 0 874 883 878 875 881 890 868 48
10 Fulham 875 +4 870 867 873 861 854 878 845 48
11 Stoke City 868 0 867 865 862 862 864 875 849 51
12 Sunderland 862 +9 850 850 853 871 870 880 839 46
13 Norwich

City
860 +10 849 839 829 818 806 860 797 48
14 West

Bromwich Albion
860 0 859 859 861 841 853 866 837 45
15 Swansea

City
846 +8 837 824 812 815 810 849 805 43
16 Blackburn

Rovers
844 +3 838 849 854 863 872 877 828 35
17 Bolton

Wanderers
836 +6 827 837 859 861 867 872 820 36
18 Wolverhampton Wndrs 834 -3 837 845 848 841 833 861 827 34
19 Wigan

Athletic
832 -6 839 844 850 839 835 859 829 30
20 Queens Park

Rangers
826 -3 831 835 830 829 818 843 814 34

League Points Forecast is based on 38

games Index graph over

the last 50 games Trend

value of +3 or more Trend

value of -3 or less Trend value of between -2 and +2, close to

level
That''s the trouble with stats you can make them look how you how you want them to.****ing

Stoke, don''t deserve 8th, stick em in at 11th nobody will notice. 

****ing Norwich I''ll be ****ed if they deserve higher than 13th[;)][:)]

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[quote user="RUDOLPH HUCKER"]

The Premier League title race appears to be between the two Manchester Clubs.

 

Below them is the battle for Champion’s League places and for the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal the consequences of failure outweigh the need for the top two to win the league itself because the loss of revenue and top player attraction would hit them hard. In the same battle group are Spurs who are surely ahead of their business plan and more aspirational then desperate.  Here are five sides with everything to play for.

 

Below this group is overachieving but inconsistent Newcastle with underachieving and inconsistent Liverpool. They are highly unlikely to fall to 8th place or attain 5th and on any given day can be a great result for anyone else in the league.

 

Then we come to the main group, topped by Stoke in 8th and falling by a mere 5 points to West Brom in 15th place.  If history is anything to go by one of this tight knit pack will fall like a stone and end up relegated.

 

In 16th is enigmatic QPR who could grow under Hughes or implode, get relegated and suffer high contracts in The Championship I suspect.  The good news for Norwich City is QPR have already yielded us 6 points so have nothing else to give us except competition for our rivals or one less relegation spot.

 

In 17th is Bolton, just above the bottom 3 by one point and 10 points behind Norwich. We have done for them at their place and it is vital we beat them in the forthcoming game at FCR.

 

Wigan are beginning to come adrift at the bottom and Wolves look to be in trouble, again we held both away, but with them are free scoring Blackburn who genuinely have good players and fighting spirit. I do not expect either Bolton or Blackpool to suffer relegation.

 

The reason I titled this thread ‘The Gathering Storm’ is because I can see most established sides galvanising themselves. It has taken an excellent run of results for Norwich City to maintain 9th place and the growing strength of the main group has begun to show signs of cutting basement sides adrift and catching up on the likes of Liverpool, Newcastle and even Arsenal.

 

Blackpool lost to previously underperforming established sides that have been around the block and know, as do the top sides, how to make a run in.  Gary Neville tonight made an interesting point about the strength of title winning sides come March and others have previously commented how this is a key month. In the past two seasons Paul Lambert has ground out some vital results and built momentum through this period and in avoiding relegation the established Premier league sides do the same time and again to send the newcomers back down again.  They play it almost like a mini season and collectively it powerfully sucks down the unwitting.

 

Sunderland is safe, but Bolton will see us as just such a key result and this could be one of the main matches of the season.

 

Of course, we all hope to keep picking up points towards the 40 target before the scrap begins and we would like to see the bottom sides continue to slide.  Whether a cup run at this time is a help or a hindrance only time will tell but we don’t have a fixture backlog to content with yet.

 

Those who point out the one game at a time mantra are correct and this thread isn’t about Norwich City in isolation because of how we currently sit in the table and how we are performing.  What it is about is the volatility of being in a tight league. 

 

This weekend, the top mainly played itself but coming up the top teams with something to play for will hopefully take points off our rivals (as Chelsea failed to do to us).

 

This is as exciting as chasing promotion for me. Every game truly counts and with the prize money and prestige we currently sit second  in a league within the Premier League and the sooner we pick up points the better we can avoid what is going to be one massive scrap below us which is now beginning to brew.

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I don''t expect Blackpool to suffer relegation either !!!  [:D]

 

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[quote user="York Canary"]

Just been trolling through the archives to find a link to that £800k per position statement and here''s one - http://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/norwich_city_break_record_again_39m_heading_for_carrow_road_1_902838

If you can''t open it then here''s the main snippet:-

"On top of that, every place in the Premier League table is worth £756,000 – West Ham received that amount and Manchester United £15.1m."

The other statement of note was this:-

"Facility fees of £582,000 are paid to a club every time they play in a live television match – with a minimum income of £5.82m even if a club has been involved in fewer than 10 live games."

So you''d assume the better we do (or the higher we stay), the more we''ll be televised and thus the more money we''ll get. We''ve got a total of 6 live matches on Sky by the 1st of Feb, but I assume there''ll be more lined up from Feb to the end of the season. If we keep playing well we''ll hopefully get more than 10 games televised by the end of the season and that''ll boost the kitty nicely with £582k extra per game on top of the guaranteed minimum of £5.82m

Either way, the higher we finish the better! It will be hard as hell with the last run of games we have though. A top half finish would be utterly incredible imo

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And now the Wigan game is going to be televised so that''s 7 games in total. I can see us getting a few more games televised with the way we''re playing so hopefully we get over that 10-game mark and boost the income

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There are only 5 teams who have to worry about any gathering storm and NCFC is not one of them. Look at the goal differences, it tells you all you need to know. The three relegated teams will come from the present bottom five.

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Before the season started I predicted finishing in 14th place – that’s looking a bit conservative at the moment.

 

I agree with the OP; although there will be some serious galvanising amongst the established clubs, I am confident Norwich can be included in that group too. City 1st makes the point that we have a leadership team who expect to win in every aspect possible – that’s not being cocky; it demonstrates confidence in the calibre of the staff here.

 

The days of accepting a half-baked effort - in the words of Pink Floyd ‘hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way’ - simply will not do around here anymore. I share City 1st’s frustration that some fans (and people in life generally) seem to enjoy being that way – they’re entitled to their opinion as we all are; I’m just glad that as a group, our board, managers, coaches and players appear to think, act and behave more effectively than those employed at 83 other football league clubs right now!

 

These are wonderful times to be a Norwich supporter – we’re in the Premiership and these days I do find myself looking at the teams immediately ahead of us rather than those below. On Saturday when I realised the six teams immediately above us failed to win – only the top two secured 3 points – I got quite a buzz! Right now I believe the ''gathering storm'' is unlikely to affect this region in a detrimental way.

 

This is so much better than our last attempt at a Premiership campaign and I for one will ensure I enjoy every minute of it.

 

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