Dublin Riots

[Herman 9,802]

1 hour ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

 

An Algerian man stabs multiple children outside a school in Ireland, similar to countless terrorist incidents on the continent. Of course it's a terrorist incident. Who are these clowns who suggest there was ever any uncertainty?

Nobody knew if he was Algerian or even foreign before wading in with racist hate-spreading. Try reading the thread before jumping in two footed yet again.

[Naturalcynic 642]

1 hour ago, Herman said:

Nobody knew if he was Algerian or even foreign before wading in with racist hate-spreading. Try reading the thread before jumping in two footed yet again.

It was reported in the Irish media that he was thought to be Algerian, although apparently that’s yet to be verified.

[littleyellowbirdie 2,565]

3 hours ago, Herman said:

Nobody knew if he was Algerian or even foreign before wading in with racist hate-spreading. Try reading the thread before jumping in two footed yet again.

I have a strong suspicion that people in the area will have known it at the outset, which is what got the ball rolling. It's very difficult to suppress anything. They'd have been better off calling it a suspected terror attack in the first place than looking like they're trying to cover something up. The attacker was quickly subdued and apprehended. There's little doubt that it was known who he was at the outset, but the authorities were tight-lipped in spite of enormous public interest.

The fact that this information was clearly suppressed early on only goes to underline that the authorities are more interested in keeping awkward truths from the public to avoid difficult topics, which only goes to undermine trust and increase the risks of unrest.

Not to condone the riots at all, but there's plenty of grounds for legitimate concern, and legitimate concerns will always escalate into extremist sentiments if ignored and/or not properly addressed, which does lead to the risk of innocent people being targeted, like the innocent Jews being targeted by those among the pro-Palestinian crowd throughout the West.

Edited November 25, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie

[Sheva 123]

On 25/11/2023 at 08:19, A Load of Squit said:

Public attitudes to immigration in Ireland are among the most positive in Europe. Attitudes are underpinned by values that prize openness and welcome, and are influenced by Ireland's own experience of large-scale emigration.

You're an idiot.

 

Sounds like a load of made up crap believed by the idiots like yourself, still doesn’t matter what’s said on this little message board, events will play out on the big field, enjoy the little time you have left.

[Herman 9,802]

11 hours ago, Naturalcynic said:

It was reported in the Irish media that he was thought to be Algerian, although apparently that’s yet to be verified.

Again, if you bothered to read the thread, misinformation was being spread before anyone had any idea who had done it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-natural-history-museum-jihadi-incident-terror-attack-police-a7988341.html

[littleyellowbirdie 2,565]

1 hour ago, Herman said:

Again, if you bothered to read the thread, misinformation was being spread before anyone had any idea who had done it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-natural-history-museum-jihadi-incident-terror-attack-police-a7988341.html

People can have information in real life and be transmitting it via social media before police release information.

It turns out it was accurate, so no reason to presume it was misinformation.

Contrast that to the sea of anti Israeli misinformation out there that goes without comment and the focus on allegations of misinformation looks a lot like deflection.

[A Load of Squit 5,198]

 

 

[Rock The Boat 1,332]

On 25/11/2023 at 08:28, TheDarkKnight said:

Yeah. If you want to be pedantic about it then go ahead.

The "Human being don't own a pebble" thing is particularly aimed at the fascists who deem themselves more worthy to live in a nation than a person who was born in another land.

Duh.

Isn't the whole point of Scottish Nationalism that they think those more worthy of the resources are those born within the borders of Scotland and not within England (another land)? if so, you seem to be saying Scottish Nationalism is a form of fascism. Personally, I think we throw these kinds of words around so liberally they have little meaning. But at least I now understand that what you really mean is no one owns anything unless it is in Scotland and then it's owned by the Scots.

And I bet you work in England, lol.

[Rock The Boat 1,332]

16 hours ago, Herman said:

Again, if you bothered to read the thread, misinformation was being spread before anyone had any idea who had done it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-natural-history-museum-jihadi-incident-terror-attack-police-a7988341.html

You'll no doubt be delighted to learn that during Sunday's pro-Israeli march, Tommy Robinson was dragged from a cafe where he was eating his breakfast by the police, arrested for causing alarm at the march and then sprayed with tear gas before being led away, preventing him his sovereign right to express his solidarity with the Jews of Britain. shame on Sadiq Khan and his puppet, Mark Rowley.

[A Load of Squit 5,198]

5 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

You'll no doubt be delighted to learn that during Sunday's pro-Israeli march, Tommy Robinson was dragged from a cafe where he was eating his breakfast by the police, arrested for causing alarm at the march and then sprayed with tear gas before being led away, preventing him his sovereign right to express his solidarity with the Jews of Britain. shame on Sadiq Khan and his puppet, Mark Rowley.

You're bat sh!t mental.

[Herman 9,802]

He should have been arrested for desecrating the Cenotaph. Fat Luton slag.

[Well b back 3,250]

7 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:

You'll no doubt be delighted to learn that during Sunday's pro-Israeli march, Tommy Robinson was dragged from a cafe where he was eating his breakfast by the police, arrested for causing alarm at the march and then sprayed with tear gas before being led away, preventing him his sovereign right to express his solidarity with the Jews of Britain. shame on Sadiq Khan and his puppet, Mark Rowley.

Didn’t he hate them a few months ago ?

Just asking

[Rock The Boat 1,332]

6 hours ago, Well b back said:

Didn’t he hate them a few months ago ?

Just asking

The answer is No, he didn't. Hope this helps. 

[Rock The Boat 1,332]

8 hours ago, A Load of Squit said:

You're bat sh!t mental.

I can understand that the truth might hurt you but I'm sure you can rise to the challenge. 

[Herman 9,802]

The truth is that he was asked to stay away, politely. He didn't so got escorted away. All rather simple and easy to understand. 

[Yellow Fever 3,810]

5 minutes ago, Herman said:

The truth is that he was asked to stay away, politely. He didn't so got escorted away. All rather simple and easy to understand. 

He breached the exclusion order after being asked to leave and so got arrested and charged. Its what happens if you break the law.

[littleyellowbirdie 2,565]

2 hours ago, Yellow Fever said:

He breached the exclusion order after being asked to leave and so got arrested and charged. Its what happens if you break the law.

For anyone else there'd be complaints of it being fascist behaviour by the police.

Freedom of expression, but only for the left.

[Herman 9,802]

I'm sure Jeremy Corbyn wouldn't have been welcomed either.

[Naturalcynic 642]

8 minutes ago, Herman said:

I'm sure Jeremy Corbyn wouldn't have been welcomed either.

Although probably not pinned to the ground, pepper-sprayed, dragged away and arrested.

[Herman 9,802]

8 minutes ago, Naturalcynic said:

Although probably not pinned to the ground, pepper-sprayed, dragged away and arrested.

Poor, poor Tommy.

[Naturalcynic 642]

1 hour ago, Herman said:

Poor, poor Tommy.

Just as long as the Met are being even-handed and are applying the law fairly, equally and proportionately, then I’m sure it’s ok.

[littleyellowbirdie 2,565]

Apparently Robinson was being warned for his presence 'potentially causing alarm and harassment to others.'

On that basis,  so-called pro-Palestinian protests, given the repeated incidents of hateful and anti-Semitic sentiments in the crowd, should be made illegal.

[horsefly 4,310]

16 hours ago, littleyellowbirdie said:

Apparently Robinson was being warned for his presence 'potentially causing alarm and harassment to others.'

On that basis,  so-called pro-Palestinian protests, given the repeated incidents of hateful and anti-Semitic sentiments in the crowd, should be made illegal.

It was the organisers of the Jewish protest who told the police they considered him to be a threat to their safety, and wanted him prevented from joining it. Given his performance in stoking up violence on Remembrance day, and his connection to far-right (often anti-Semite) organisations, it is hard to see how the police could have ignored the organisers' request to ask him to leave. I have no doubt they would have done exactly the same if a Hamas supporter had turned up and attempted to infiltrate the protest against anti-Semitism. Thus your second sentence is not a like-for-like comparison.

[horsefly 4,310]

21 hours ago, Naturalcynic said:

Although probably not pinned to the ground, pepper-sprayed, dragged away and arrested.

I doubt Jeremy Corbyn would have violently resisted the order to leave. BTW, at what point was Robinson "pinned to the ground" prior to being pepper sprayed and arrested? I seem to have missed that.

Edited November 28, 2023 by horsefly

[BurwellCanary 216]

We met a serving police office in the Guards whilst on holiday recently and she was saying what a terrible and violent place central Dublin had become. I'm only repeating her comments when she firmly blamed immigration

[horsefly 4,310]

3 hours ago, BurwellCanary said:

We met a serving police office in the Guards whilst on holiday recently and she was saying what a terrible and violent place central Dublin had become. I'm only repeating her comments when she firmly blamed immigration

Of course, you would never find a racist in a police force. Only open minded liberals make it into their ranks.

[Foxy2600 305]

Same happening in Vive la France😆 

Integration not working, different religious and humanitarian values. And the left-wing apologists witter on....and on.

Which makes me a 'Radical Extreme Right-Wing activist' - just for saying it on some two-bit largely socialist Football Forum.

[A Load of Squit 5,198]

26 minutes ago, Foxy2600 said:

Same happening in Vive la France😆 

Integration not working, different religious and humanitarian values. And the left-wing apologists witter on....and on.

Which makes me a 'Radical Extreme Right-Wing activist' - just for saying it on some two-bit largely socialist Football Forum.

No, you're a RWNJ, I doubt you've ever been an activist.

[BurwellCanary 216]

On 29/11/2023 at 13:04, horsefly said:

Of course, you would never find a racist in a police force. Only open minded liberals make it into their ranks.

Indeed, they also dont employ corrupt individuals, rapists and liars either. I wasnt defending this person's view of course - but the bigger point being raised was that discontent from Dubliners towards immigrants was going to stoke up tensions.