Nicola Sturgeon slapped in irons and arrested

[king canary 7,680]

10 hours ago, TheDarkKnight said:

Yeah. But he's now quit.

I'm guessing it was for other reasons, rather than partygate.

Probably the missing £600k.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

9 hours ago, TheDarkKnight said:

Ah! So Boris stole the £600k? 😉

Can't wait to see the next smear campaign, "Sturgeon is caught stealing her surname from a Fish". And then "Alex Salmond is under investigation for stealing his surname from a fish and then adding a D to cover it up".

That is Brill.

[littleyellowbirdie 2,604]

1 minute ago, TheDarkKnight said:

And now Police Scotland have declared that their investigation has cost £700k.

Nice.

Waste public money (more than that was reported missing) and stoke the flames for support for the SNP and independence.

Not a great move by Wesminster.

It's police Scotland. They're accountable to the Scottish Police Association who are made up of people appointed by Scottish ministers, so it's nothing to do with Westminster.

[littleyellowbirdie 2,604]

1 hour ago, TheDarkKnight said:

Surely you don't believe that.

The SNP hold power in Scotland, but Westminster hold the leash to Scotland.

Wait till there's Indy Ref 2 and the Prime Minister encourages Charles to "Raise an eyebrow"*, the same way that David Cameron did with the Queen.

*We all know what that means.

Yes, of course I do. The board of the SPA, which oversees Police Scotland is chosen by Ministers in the Scottish government.

Check the Scottish parliament's own website. It clearly lists justice and policing as devolved powers. It's UK law that Scotland oversees its own policing and justice. Seeing as the SNP rules the roost in the Scottish government at the moment, I've no doubt they'd be crying foul from the rooftops if there was any sniff of Westminster interference. As it is, it sounds like they're just whispering the idea on the doorstep to whip up the idea of a conspiracy without it being properly scrutinised...

https://www.parliament.scot/about/how-parliament-works/devolved-and-reserved-powers

Edited June 13, 2023 by littleyellowbirdie

[king canary 7,680]

On 13/06/2023 at 19:17, TheDarkKnight said:

And now Police Scotland have declared that their investigation has cost £700k.

Nice.

Waste public money (more than that was reported missing) and stoke the flames for support for the SNP and independence.

Not a great move by Wesminster.

Incidentally if you applied this rationale across the board you'd render most financial crimes legal.

'Sorry we can't investigate someone defrauding you for £10k as it would cost more than that.'

Very silly.

[king canary 7,680]

8 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said:

So, wasting hundreds of thousands of the tax payer's money on a jumped up charge that they knew wasn't going to bear fruit, is perfectly OK?

Fair enough.

I think it's parody, if truth be known. Kinda like, the Tories mocking Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP for being corrupt. lol.

You're exactly the same as any Tory trying to claim Johnson or similar should never have been investigated.

Basically 'the police should only investigate potential misdeeds by politicians I don't like.'

There is no way you'd be calling this a 'jumped up charge' if the people arrested weren't in the political party you support.

[king canary 7,680]

24 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said:

Not really.

When the dust settles, we'll see that Nicola Sturgeon did nothing wrong and the case of the missing £600k was nothing but a red herring in order to smear the SNP and to divert attention away from what's happening with your former mighty leader.

Guess what. This has backfired. As this has increased the independence clamour.

Maybe we will, maybe we wont.

However the fact you believe Scottish police and running sham investigations and making arrests with no basis on the order of the Westminster government is a silly conspiracy theory, the kind I'm sure you'd mock if it wasn't your favoured political party.

 

[Daz Sparks 1,189]

On 15/06/2023 at 11:36, TheDarkKnight said:

Especially in the recent climate, we're being forced falsified information. We're being told endless lies.

I'm interested to see proven examples of the above, and I am not saying this tongue in cheek, if you have genuine irrefutable evidence to back the statement, I have an open mind to it.

[TheGunnShow 6,023]

The thing that baffles me is that if Scotland is apparently such a drain on resources to Westminster and the UK is in a financially parlous state - and indeed that most of Scotland would understandably rather put pins in their eyes than vote the Tories in this current guise - then why wouldn't Westminster suggest that the Scots run their own affairs? Gets rid of a financial drain and an area that provides very few seats to the ruling party.

Call me a cynical bar-stard, but I reckon it's losing out on that North Sea oil to prop up England...

Edited June 16, 2023 by TheGunnShow

[TheGunnShow 6,023]

15 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said:

It's completely true.

I haven't known one MP (from a party that isn't the SNP) that wanted Scotland to leave the union. There's a reason for that, and you've just rightfully listed one of the top ones.

Usually, politicians from different parties wouldn't agree on the colour of an Orange, but in the case of keeping Scotland in the Union, they are all on the same page.

Not just that, we already know their rhetoric with the perceived "undeserving". Unemployed people? Scroungers. (Shame that unemployment benefits are a tiny part of the welfare budget and indeed that most welfare payments are to the working!). Asylum seekers? Illegal (well, when you remove all legal paths...).

They'd have been more than happy to indulge in similar low-fact tirades against the Scots there to get a break-up going but nope.

[Iwans Big Toe 312]

I wouldn't worry about Boris, Trumps or Jimmy Krankies corruption. If I were you I would look into The Big Guy's corruption.

 

 

[Herman 9,838]

Who is the Big Guy?

[nevermind, neoliberalism has had it 159]

On 13/06/2023 at 18:24, littleyellowbirdie said:

It's police Scotland. They're accountable to the Scottish Police Association who are made up of people appointed by Scottish ministers, so it's nothing to do with Westminster.

police Scotland undertook 400 plus interviews phishing for credible accusers against Salmon, and found nothing, it cost taxpayers nearly a million and ended with a majority of women's jury deciding that he was innocent of the accusations, by perjurers. Scotlands Government gets hislegal advice from the Lord advocate who also decides to sit on matters of politics in court. Far too close a relationship, imho.

 

[Iwans Big Toe 312]

15 hours ago, Herman said:

Who is the Big Guy?

 

Edited June 17, 2023 by Iwans Big Toe

[Barbe bleu 833]

16 hours ago, Herman said:

Who is the Big Guy?

I'm with you.  I'm not sure who it is either.  

Logically if big guy implies someone bigger than trump. I guess it's Biden, Putin, Xi or Jesus.  Or it's the Rock.

Its the rock isn't it?

[Herman 9,838]

8 hours ago, Barbe bleu said:

I'm with you.  I'm not sure who it is either.  

Logically if big guy implies someone bigger than trump. I guess it's Biden, Putin, Xi or Jesus.  Or it's the Rock.

Its the rock isn't it?

Hulk Hogan?

[Herman 9,838]

28 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said:

Snap.

I was going to say that.

Did you start watching Rocky III last night too? 😄

[ricardo 7,410]

Police trying to find 666k quid.

Thats a number that makes you think.

[Daz Sparks 1,189]

1 hour ago, ricardo said:

Police trying to find 666k quid.

Thats a number that makes you think.

Makes me think that Nicola Sturgeon time travelled back to 1976 and bought 2x Malcolm MacDonalds.

[Barbe bleu 833]

3 hours ago, TheDarkKnight said:

 

30 people attended a Tory party shindig. They were photographed and recorded on video. During national lockdown, when it was an offence to socialise: "The police are investigating it"

Nicola Sturgeon is alleged to have stolen money from the SNP coffers. Next thing we know, she's arrested and questioned. The SWAT team Is called. There's a forensic tent around her house, as if they're dealing with a homicide.

Wasting £700k of the tax payer's money for a bogus charge and an obvious smear campaign.

Nice to see that we're dealing with a level playing field.

So if the police suspect someone if stealing over half a million quid they shouldn't investigate?

Is this the way police should act on all things? Unless it's more serious than 30 co workers having an illicit party it should be forgotten about?

Edited June 19, 2023 by Barbe bleu

[Barbe bleu 833]

1 hour ago, TheDarkKnight said:

OK. Fraud or theft doesn't constitute a forensic procedure. If you don't think that's fishy, then fair enough.

It wasn't merely investigated. She was placed under arrest. Some would even say that they did so unlawfull.

The Police are in the pocket if Westminster. It's rigged and it's ditty and it's nothing but a smear job.

I guess you are entitled to any opinion you want to hold.  Afterall we are not in catalonia 

[ricardo 7,410]

43 minutes ago, Barbe bleu said:

I guess you are entitled to any opinion you want to hold. 

Not on here mate.

[littleyellowbirdie 2,604]

On 17/06/2023 at 15:38, nevermind, neoliberalism has had it said:

police Scotland undertook 400 plus interviews phishing for credible accusers against Salmon, and found nothing, it cost taxpayers nearly a million and ended with a majority of women's jury deciding that he was innocent of the accusations, by perjurers. Scotlands Government gets hislegal advice from the Lord advocate who also decides to sit on matters of politics in court. Far too close a relationship, imho.

 

The Lord Advocate being Dorothy Bain KC, Scottish born and bred.

Legal checks and balances on politicians are usually considered a good thing. Quite weird that the SNP are considered so saintly that investigation of them causes so much outrage. The investigations only amount to anything if there's evidence found.

As for Salmond, the received wisdom on accusations of sexual assault is that the accuser should always be supported and believed at the outset. That's a fantastic vehicle for malicious accusation in any circumstance. But that's another subject.

[littleyellowbirdie 2,604]

On 19/06/2023 at 20:38, TheDarkKnight said:

OK. Fraud or theft doesn't constitute a forensic procedure. If you don't think that's fishy, then fair enough.

It wasn't merely investigated. She was placed under arrest. Some would even say that they did so unlawfull.

The Police are in the pocket if Westminster. It's rigged and it's ditty and it's nothing but a smear job.

When the dust settles, Nicola Sturgeon will be found guilty of anything.

By then, this faux investigating will have cost £1m+.

What if a group of very pro-SNP police Scotland officers erected the forensic tent as a way of making the investigation look strange, with a view to derailing it?

[Iwans Big Toe 312]

On 18/06/2023 at 16:37, Herman said:

Did you start watching Rocky III last night too? 😄

So you were watching Rocky III? Maybe someone as uninformed as you should try watching something that doesn't fit with your narrow minded, bigoted ideology.

Still haven't done a web search on who the "big guy" is? Or how corrupt his family is?

Maybe you should try smoking some parmesan. Then you could get away with tax evasion.

 

 

Edited June 21, 2023 by Iwans Big Toe

[Herman 9,838]

That answers the question, "where did Iwan stick his big toe?"

[Iwans Big Toe 312]

Huh?

Where did you stick your wick?

 

[Iwans Big Toe 312]

On 21/06/2023 at 00:49, TheDarkKnight said:

The Police, the Media, etc, in Scotland is entirely pro union and bought and paid for by Westminster.

The Police, the Media, etc, in USA is entirely pro Democrat and bought and paid for by The democratic party.

[Iwans Big Toe 312]

@TheDarkKnight Oh and please show me one right wing position the BBC, ITV or local media have taken in the last 10 years.

 

 

[Iwans Big Toe 312]

3 minutes ago, TheDarkKnight said:

When did I say "right wing"?

The Police, the Media, etc, in Scotland is entirely pro union and bought and paid for by Westminster.