Grumpy 145 Posted March 6, 2023 His selection on Saturday raised a few eyebrows,certainly mine and must have done to a few of the experts on this thread. I would not have put him ahead of Gibbs but the match analysis suggests that both could have done the job equally well.Obviously it was Wagners choice as to who was better equipped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,211 Posted March 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, Grumpy said: His selection on Saturday raised a few eyebrows,certainly mine and must have done to a few of the experts on this thread. I would not have put him ahead of Gibbs but the match analysis suggests that both could have done the job equally well.Obviously it was Wagners choice as to who was better equipped. Not really. Clearly, one of the reasons Sorenson was in was because of his extra height and aerial ability - vital when trying to deal with Millwall's endless succession of balls into the box. (and I like Gibbs). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpy 145 Posted March 6, 2023 42 minutes ago, Thirsty Lizard said: Not really. Clearly, one of the reasons Sorenson was in was because of his extra height and aerial ability - vital when trying to deal with Millwall's endless succession of balls into the box. (and I like Gibbs). With respect i have to disagree. Our defence coped quite well with any arial threat from Millwall,their headed goal was a case of two city players going to block the same player and leaving the goalscorer with space to run on and score.I don't think Sorensen was too involved with those defensive situations. Sorensen was either alternating with Mclean in a back three or linking up with Aarons in the midfield when Hernandez was on the right.Occasionaly Aarons would drop into the right of the back three leaving Mclean and Sorensen to operate in the middle.I believe that either Gibbs or Sorensen could handle this role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,211 Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, Grumpy said: With respect i have to disagree. Our defence coped quite well with any arial threat from Millwall,their headed goal was a case of two city players going to block the same player and leaving the goalscorer with space to run on and score.I don't think Sorensen was too involved with those defensive situations. Sorensen was either alternating with Mclean in a back three or linking up with Aarons in the midfield when Hernandez was on the right.Occasionaly Aarons would drop into the right of the back three leaving Mclean and Sorensen to operate in the middle.I believe that either Gibbs or Sorensen could handle this role. Every time Millwall lumped a corner, free kick or long throw into our box (and that was lots of times) Sorenson was back there defending. He played his part in defending those attacks and won some very important defensive headers. As I said before, I like Gibbs and I think he can count himself a little unfortunate not to have got more game time under Wagner, but Sorenson was very definitely the right horse for the right course on Saturday and was a good selection by Wagner. (And that's even without talking about his goal and his assist). Edited March 7, 2023 by Thirsty Lizard 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 5,944 Posted March 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, Thirsty Lizard said: As I said before, I like Gibbs and I think he can count himself a little unfortunate not to have got more game time under Wagner, but Sorenson was very definitely the right horse for the right course on Saturday and was a good selection by Wagner. I think most people were surprised by Wagner's team selection on Saturday, but it has to be said he got it spot-on, with Sorenson giving us more solidity in midfield (and height at the back, as you said), and allowing Gabby to get a bit further forward. Also, playing Idah on the left gave us much more physical presence than Tzolis or I imagine Marquinhos would have provided. It was a very good team and formation for that game - real coaching triumph I would say. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,211 Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Robert N. LiM said: I think most people were surprised by Wagner's team selection on Saturday, but it has to be said he got it spot-on, with Sorenson giving us more solidity in midfield (and height at the back, as you said), and allowing Gabby to get a bit further forward. Also, playing Idah on the left gave us much more physical presence than Tzolis or I imagine Marquinhos would have provided. It was a very good team and formation for that game - real coaching triumph I would say. Yes, exactly. I don't think it's really been picked up on here, but Idah was often doing the man-to-man marking job on the 6ft6 Jake Cooper at set pieces - and he usually managed to do enough to prevent Cooper getting in a meaningful header. (These are the sort of things that a lot of fans don't really notice, but coaches and managers most definitely do). 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chelm Canary 404 Posted March 7, 2023 I always find when I've missed the thread and and skip to the end to view the latest comments on the subject only to find people are now talking about something entirely different. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Raptor 1,526 Posted March 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chelm Canary said: I always find when I've missed the thread and and skip to the end to view the latest comments on the subject only to find people are now talking about something entirely different. Either that or it's just a couple of people trying to wind each other up! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satriales 941 Posted March 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Chelm Canary said: I always find when I've missed the thread and and skip to the end to view the latest comments on the subject only to find people are now talking about something entirely different. Usually it will have turned in to a petty argument between two people! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,211 Posted March 8, 2023 20 hours ago, Satriales said: Usually it will have turned in to a petty argument between two people! No it won't! 😉 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornish sam 1,031 Posted March 8, 2023 42 minutes ago, Thirsty Lizard said: No it won't! 😉 That's not an argument, that's just a contradiction. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveN8458 68 Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Thirsty Lizard said: No it won't! 😉 Oh yes it will!!😁 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,868 Posted March 8, 2023 22 hours ago, Chelm Canary said: I always find when I've missed the thread and and skip to the end to view the latest comments on the subject only to find people are now talking about something entirely different. More often than not, Brexit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuff Said 5,868 Posted March 8, 2023 22 hours ago, The Raptor said: Either that or it's just a couple of people trying to wind each other up! And before anyone else says it, binner! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,698 Posted March 8, 2023 54 minutes ago, cornish sam said: That's not an argument, that's just a contradiction. No it ISN'T! Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says ... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yobocop 1,424 Posted March 9, 2023 Sorensen had one of his best games for us on Saturday he’s still young and can still improve good talent and hopefully he can gain some consistency and have a run in the team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirsty Lizard 3,211 Posted March 12, 2023 I think we've really missed him in the first half today. Just not enough in midfield and Sunderland have been able to break and run at us far too easily. I'd bring him in on now for Nunez - get some control of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites