Mello Yello 2,571 Posted November 1, 2022 Scenario wise....I wonder what contingency plans are in place?.... I'm sure they'll bring out the club's slightly corroded Tailor's Shears so as to cut our club cloth accordingly.... Some taking the hit possibly Coaching staff, squad members & club employees - both permanent and including club match-day staff?.... Who player wise stays and who goes? (I think one or two currently out on loan won't be donning a yellow shirt ever again).... Wonder who in our current squad will court a handsome fee to be sold on to boost our dwindling finances?....Hmm? Which players will want away?.... Will the price of Season Tickets increase?....I think the club will be shooting themselves in the foot if they do.... Maybe our Stu will move on to pastures new and open a wildlife sanctuary for kangaroos and wallaby's?....(Here's hopping!).... Any fresh additions to our Board of Directors?....Do Stephan an' Big Chicken Micky F need replacements?.... Interesting times ahead and there's so many more questions?... But let's ignore those above 66 million dollar pound questions - as I'm sure we'll achieve that promotion....Albeit if not auto, but certainly from them most exciting play-offs.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cambridgeshire canary 7,797 Posted November 1, 2022 Fire sales of our players and large wage cuts in all other players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,680 Posted November 1, 2022 Is not the end of the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,571 Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, keelansgrandad said: Is not the end of the world. Although Armageddon a little bit concerned.... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Tea 140 Posted November 1, 2022 TBH a second season in the champs would not be a bad thing IF it had been a rebuilding season. We have too much dead wood in the team , as in players that cannot cut it in the prem. I would have happily taken a good shake up of the team , a near promotion and then another couple of players for a proper promotion season with a view to having an rebuilt team for the prem. If we went up now it would be another season of slaughter . Sometimes you need to go backwards and start again . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings of a Sparrow 1,708 Posted November 1, 2022 49 minutes ago, Mello Yello said: Although Armageddon a little bit concerned.... I see what you did there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfer 1,547 Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) Well even if all the big earners and 1st team fringe players left we'd still have a team something like this ... Gunn Byram Omobamidele Tompkinson McCallum Gibbs Nunez Tzolis Sara Cantwell Sargent Subs Mair / Barden Idah Rowe Mumba Springett Sorenson Edited November 1, 2022 by Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RugbyCanary 106 Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Surfer said: Well even if all the big earners and 1st team fringe players left we'd still have a team something like this ... Gunn Byram Omobamidele Tompkinson McCallum Gibbs Nunez Tzolis Sara Cantwell Sargent Subs Mair / Barden Idah Rowe Mumba Springett Sorenson Still decent!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nutty nigel 7,902 Posted November 1, 2022 The '52' will probably have a party 🎇🎈🎉🎊 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,758 Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Surfer said: Well even if all the big earners and 1st team fringe players left we'd still have a team something like this ... Gunn Byram Omobamidele Tompkinson McCallum Gibbs Nunez Tzolis Sara Cantwell Sargent Subs Mair / Barden Idah Rowe Mumba Springett Sorenson Not much chance of Cantwell being here. I'd imagine Tzolis will be one they hope to get at least some sort of fee from a European club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C.I.D 358 Posted November 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, canarydan23 said: Not much chance of Cantwell being here. I'd imagine Tzolis will be one they hope to get at least some sort of fee from a European club. TC will be here if no-one comes in for him................he's hardly been flooded with suitable offers for his signature to date has he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canarydan23 4,758 Posted November 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, C.I.D said: TC will be here if no-one comes in for him................he's hardly been flooded with suitable offers for his signature to date has he? He'll be free, in fact, he's free to talk to clubs from January. There will be plenty willing to take him on and if he's not happy at Norwich then pastures new will be a more appealling prospect. Can't blame him, he was one of only two or three to come out of the Burnley game with any credit and was then dumped to the bench in favour of an out-of-position player just out of a bout of laryngitis. If he doesn't start tomorrow he'll have even more right to feel aggrieved. I suspect if Smith goes, the chances of Cantwell staying increases. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,138 Posted November 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Mr Tea said: TBH a second season in the champs would not be a bad thing IF it had been a rebuilding season. We have too much dead wood in the team , as in players that cannot cut it in the prem. I would have happily taken a good shake up of the team , a near promotion and then another couple of players for a proper promotion season with a view to having an rebuilt team for the prem. If we went up now it would be another season of slaughter . Sometimes you need to go backwards and start again . I think the last two Premier League seasons have shown you have little chance of survival on promotion without a big rebuild after you've been promoted, in which case how much time you spend rebuilding to get promoted makes no difference. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 3,081 Posted November 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: I think the last two Premier League seasons have shown you have little chance of survival on promotion without a big rebuild after you've been promoted, in which case how much time you spend rebuilding to get promoted makes no difference. Actually, I think if you look outside of our club the teams that tend to do better keep a strong core of their team together. The issue we've had is our cm hasn't been good enough, twice. Even Lambert did that with success. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,138 Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, chicken said: Actually, I think if you look outside of our club the teams that tend to do better keep a strong core of their team together. The issue we've had is our cm hasn't been good enough, twice. Even Lambert did that with success. I definitely agree you need a core that you can rebuild around, and personally I think you've got a better chance if you're rebuilding around a strong midfield rather than a strong defence and/or attack, but the reality is that those who survive without substantial upgrades are the exception rather than the rule. In the case of Lambert, the fact that he fell out with the club heavily over the lack of financial support and turned his back on an adoring fan base to head off to Villa as soon as possible suggests his personal feeling may have been that survival was more luck than judgement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 3,081 Posted November 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, littleyellowbirdie said: I definitely agree you need a core that you can rebuild around, and personally I think you've got a better chance if you're rebuilding around a strong midfield rather than a strong defence and/or attack, but the reality is that those who survive without substantial upgrades are the exception rather than the rule. In the case of Lambert, the fact that he fell out with the club heavily over the lack of financial support and turned his back on an adoring fan base to head off to Villa as soon as possible suggests his personal feeling may have been that survival was more luck than judgement. The opposite I feel. Why would you demand more money for transfers to improve upon what we had? It wasn't about being lucky with what we had, he knew that adding - if what we are led to believe is correct - Benteke and Vlaar, for example, we could be top half of the table, more than comfortable mid-table. And lets face it, he wasn't wrong. Where it went wrong was falling out with Karsa who appears to have had a massive part to play in signing a number of those players we did well with and Culverhouse who appears to have been a great assistant to him. If anything, the following season underlined that as we managed to carry on with pretty much the same squad with the addition of Tettey, Turner, Bassong and Garrido. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littleyellowbirdie 3,138 Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, chicken said: The opposite I feel. Why would you demand more money for transfers to improve upon what we had? It wasn't about being lucky with what we had, he knew that adding - if what we are led to believe is correct - Benteke and Vlaar, for example, we could be top half of the table, more than comfortable mid-table. And lets face it, he wasn't wrong. Where it went wrong was falling out with Karsa who appears to have had a massive part to play in signing a number of those players we did well with and Culverhouse who appears to have been a great assistant to him. If anything, the following season underlined that as we managed to carry on with pretty much the same squad with the addition of Tettey, Turner, Bassong and Garrido. Well then, how do you explain that he ran away from an adoring fanbase to Villa as fast as humanly possibly in spite of the known problems at Villa at the time? Edited November 1, 2022 by littleyellowbirdie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 3,081 Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, littleyellowbirdie said: Well then, how do you explain that he ran away from an adoring fanbase to Villa as fast as humanly possibly in spite of the known problems at Villa at the time? Ambition and money. The same things that drove him from Colchester to us in the same manner. He wanted more money to push us on to the next level, it wasn't forthcoming so he left. It's why he also tried to take Wes with him. Villa may have had "problems" but in fairness to him, he largely did very well with them. They were also, at the time, one of the clubs that had never been relegated from the premier league and comfortably mid-table most seasons. We needed new players in because it's natural progression. We went wrong when Hughton chucked out what was a relatively good striking department and replaced it with a striker that was never prolific in the premier league and way past his best, another striker who looked good at Celtic but had never really torn up the championship and a Dutch chap who had potential if used the right way. Out went Holt, Morison, Martin and Jackson... few would argue about Jackson perhaps, but the others were all more than capable. Martin easily as good as Hooper, that's for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
