Alex Moss 2,167 Posted November 28, 2020 9 hours ago, Well b back said: Who would be stupid enough to get a PCR test if you are asymptotic in the UK. You can’t even book a test ( unless you lie ) if you do not have symptoms. He refers to the Oxford / City College paper, which I put on here the last time you brought this up ( bizarrely you were telling us Liverpool testing was rubbish ). I suppose he is right it says if you are asymptotic it only picks up 76.8% of positives. When you have symptoms it is 95%+ accurate. When I put this paper up you said ‘ why should we believe the Oxford data ‘ when they said the test was 99.62% accurate. You are now saying we must read this. Why is it true now but wasn’t when I shew you how accurate tests were, in fact you called me a ‘ tool ‘ for believing the report. You even said you wouldn’t get a lateral flow test and was quite rude when I suggested they were 99.62% accurate. This is the same guy who had posts taken down because he doctored a Danish published paper on masks. At least try to remember what you have previously posted. Apart from the fact he’s been called out for making up complete bullsh0ite and conveniently not been able disprove it when challenged (he likes to go a bit ‘quiet’ I’ve noticed 😉), there is an old saying that you can’t argue with stupid and this is as good a case example of that as you will see, WBB! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Alex Moss said: Apart from the fact he’s been called out for making up complete bullsh0ite and conveniently not been able disprove it when challenged (he likes to go a bit ‘quiet’ I’ve noticed 😉), there is an old saying that you can’t argue with stupid and this is as good a case example of that as you will see, WBB! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome You think that someone who wants to hug a loved one is “prepared to kill them” and I’m the stupid one.... I fear when this is over you may never be allowed back out Alex Edited November 28, 2020 by Teemu’s right foot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 11,112 Posted November 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,590 Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, SwindonCanary said: Interesting story about smokers in France not catching the virus so easily... Maybe the tar leaves a protective layer in the lungs after all?"More likely that strangers give at least 2m between themselves and secondhand smoke ! That was in March. Completely disproven Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, Herman said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herman 11,112 Posted November 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makes_No_Sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Herman said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makes_No_Sense Oh it does. From the little time I’ve spent posting on here you have come across as the absolute cliche virtue signaller. I absolutely guarantee you have attended at least one March for a cause in the last year Edited November 28, 2020 by Teemu’s right foot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,590 Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Teemu’s right foot said: The world has lost its mind 🤡🤡🤡 I await the warning of pulling a cracker... sage televised news announcement today on recommendation to who should hold the remote control on Xmas day. Could cause domestic arguments this one... The advice is quite mild compared to the rest of the world. Just like around 80% of the public the scientists think this is madness. You are calling them out for trying to save some lives and I would have thought you supported save another lockdown in January. In this instance we have a real live experiment going on with Thanksgiving this weekend. The advise in America is to not do it, if you do eat outside and if you are inside you should wear a mask. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/holidays.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,590 Posted November 28, 2020 55 minutes ago, Alex Moss said: Apart from the fact he’s been called out for making up complete bullsh0ite and conveniently not been able disprove it when challenged (he likes to go a bit ‘quiet’ I’ve noticed 😉), there is an old saying that you can’t argue with stupid and this is as good a case example of that as you will see, WBB! Hi Alex Theres another bit that he does not get in this. He is saying Covid doesn’t exist in most cases and it’s really pneumonia and flu. He doesn’t quite grasp that there is still no proven treatment for Covid and up until July there wasn’t even a treatment at all. People were kept alive the best possible on ventilators and trying different potions. Basically they were not therefore treated as nothing could be done. With pneumonia and flu of course there are proven treatments, they don’t always work, but there are treatments. By saying they really had pneumonia and flu, he is saying those diagnosed Covid were left to die by doctors, effectively doctors have blood on their hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,590 Posted November 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said: Oh it does. From the little time I’ve spent posting on here you have come across as the absolute cliche virtue signaller https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-conspiracy-theories-bill-gates-hoax-vaccine-5g-qanon-protest-piers-corbyn-b575326.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Well b back said: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-conspiracy-theories-bill-gates-hoax-vaccine-5g-qanon-protest-piers-corbyn-b575326.html I’ve never claimed anything of the kind but you crack on... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,590 Posted November 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said: I’ve never claimed anything of the kind but you crack on... Lol Have you changed your opinion again. You tell us there is no evidence masks work. Yesterday you put up a report saying Covid was pneumonia and flu. You told us social distancing should not apply at Christmas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Well b back said: Lol Have you changed your opinion again. You tell us there is no evidence masks work. Yesterday you put up a report saying Covid was pneumonia and flu. You told us social distancing should not apply at Christmas. Find a post where I have ever said any of these conspiracy theories? All you will find is posts where I’ve provided evidence of the idea behind the great reset. You yourself have then made the leap to link that with the conspiracy theories that people have around that idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,590 Posted November 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Teemu’s right foot said: Find a post where I have ever said any of these conspiracy theories? All you will find is posts where I’ve provided evidence of the idea behind the great reset. You yourself have then made the leap to link that with the conspiracy theories that people have around that idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,590 Posted November 28, 2020 It says people with Covid really have pneumonia and flu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Well b back said: You’re hilarious. A paper by scientists is now considered conspiracy theories... I honestly fear for you when this is over as you’re so consumed by it you may not be able to make that transition back into normality Edited November 28, 2020 by Teemu’s right foot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) Look at these mad conspiracy theorists... Clare Craig BM BCh FRCPath Jonathan Engler MBChB LLB Mike Yeadon BSc Hons (Biochem-tox) PhD Christian McNeill LL.B and Dip LP Edited November 28, 2020 by Teemu’s right foot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,590 Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said: You’re hilarious. A paper by scientists is now considered conspiracy theories... I honestly fear for you when this is over as you’re so consumed by it you may not be able to make that transition back into normality Lol This is not a published paper, it is an opinion. It clearly says most getting a Covid test really have pneumonia and flu. That is a conspiracy theory. He quotes the paper I quoted to you to show tests work ( see earlier post ) and you called me a tool for believing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,167 Posted November 28, 2020 59 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said: You think that someone who wants to hug a loved one is “prepared to kill them” and I’m the stupid one.... Lol! I admire how you’ve broadened that into a sweeping generalisation, you really are the master of making up utter shoite ha ha But the others of us know we were talking about unnecessary contact with the particularly vulnerable and elderly, something you’re very happy to ignore because as you told us all, YOU have a lesser chance of dying. Very classy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Well b back said: Lol This is not a published paper, it is an opinion. It clearly says most getting a Covid test really have pneumonia and flu. That is a conspiracy theory. He quotes the paper I quoted to you to show tests work ( see earlier post ) and you called me a tool for believing it. It’s mad conspiracy theories is what it is. Just looking at those names absolutely smacks of tin foil hat wearers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Alex Moss said: Lol! I admire how you’ve broadened that into a sweeping generalisation, you really are the master of making up utter shoite ha ha But the others of us know we were talking about unnecessary contact with the particularly vulnerable and elderly, something you’re very happy to ignore because as you told us all, YOU have a lesser chance of dying. Very classy! Thanks Alex. What’s in store for you today? Another day of hiding behind the sofa attempting not to kill anyone? What a grim crime, Your Honour, he stands accused of hugging them to death... Edited November 28, 2020 by Teemu’s right foot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,167 Posted November 28, 2020 34 minutes ago, Well b back said: Hi Alex Theres another bit that he does not get in this. He is saying Covid doesn’t exist in most cases and it’s really pneumonia and flu. He doesn’t quite grasp that there is still no proven treatment for Covid and up until July there wasn’t even a treatment at all. People were kept alive the best possible on ventilators and trying different potions. Basically they were not therefore treated as nothing could be done. With pneumonia and flu of course there are proven treatments, they don’t always work, but there are treatments. By saying they really had pneumonia and flu, he is saying those diagnosed Covid were left to die by doctors, effectively doctors have blood on their hands. 3 minutes ago, Well b back said: Lol This is not a published paper, it is an opinion. It clearly says most getting a Covid test really have pneumonia and flu. That is a conspiracy theory. He quotes the paper I quoted to you to show tests work ( see earlier post ) and you called me a tool for believing it. Talking of tools, weirdly I’m still waiting on him to show me his claim that I’ve stated ‘cancer is silly’. Went a bit quiet that one, it’s almost as if he can’t stop making stuff up 😉😂 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetteys Jig 848 Posted November 28, 2020 Guys, best to ignore @Teemu’s right foot. Absolute cretin of the highest order and there is absolutely no reasoning with him. He thrives off peoples replies so best to just mute and ignore him and let him crawl back into his cave where he belongs. Just be glad he isn't the one calling the shots! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,590 Posted November 28, 2020 Fact-checked by: Science Feedback 2020/11/06 | United States FALSE: Former scientific advisor to Pfizer Michael Yeadon claims that “the pandemic is fundamentally over in the U.K.,” and, “we now know loads of people had prior immunity” to COVID-19 Explanation: Between September and early November 2020, there was a spike in the number of daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths in the U.K, and this trend will likely persist for some time. Hence the claim that “the pandemic is fundamentally over in the U.K.” is false. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well b back 3,590 Posted November 28, 2020 Just now, Tetteys Jig said: Guys, best to ignore @Teemu’s right foot. Absolute cretin of the highest order and there is absolutely no reasoning with him. He thrives off peoples replies so best to just mute and ignore him and let him crawl back into his cave where he belongs. Just be glad he isn't the one calling the shots! Spot on. No more replies from me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,167 Posted November 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Teemu’s right foot said: Thanks Alex. What’s in store for you today? Another day of hiding behind the sofa attempting not to kill anyone? What a grim crime, Your Honour, he stands accused of hugging them to death... I’m pleased that you find it all so trivial, but don’t worry, I do forgive mindless idiots like you for being largely responsible for our second lockdown. Luckily when you’ve come out of the supermarket proudly rebelling against wearing a face mask, you can go and hug granny, because after all although there’s a chance you could pass on a killer virus to her, y’know, you *probably* won’t so that’s well worth the risk, I mean it’s only a *chance* 👍. And regardless, even if it does kill granny, more importantly - that’s ok because you’ll be ok, after all, undetected underlying health issues are really not a thing 😳 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex Moss 2,167 Posted November 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tetteys Jig said: Guys, best to ignore @Teemu’s right foot. Absolute cretin of the highest order and there is absolutely no reasoning with him. He thrives off peoples replies so best to just mute and ignore him and let him crawl back into his cave where he belongs. Just be glad he isn't the one calling the shots! Summed up in one, TJ, and you’re quite correct - I’m happy with my last response to his nonsense and there’s nothing more to say to the cretin. Now on to the football! OTBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Well b back said: Spot on. No more replies from me. Finally a result. 9 minutes ago, Tetteys Jig said: Guys, best to ignore @Teemu’s right foot. Absolute cretin of the highest order and there is absolutely no reasoning with him. He thrives off peoples replies so best to just mute and ignore him and let him crawl back into his cave where he belongs. Just be glad he isn't the one calling the shots! Quite frankly I’d rather trust Edward scissor hands to shave my balls than trust what we’ve been told by the members of sage so far... 4000 deaths a day? How’s that fact checking going?? Have followed and read Michael Yeadons work and he very clearly is an expert in his field. Doesn’t it concern you that such experts are deliberately being discredited and silenced? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keelansgrandad 6,680 Posted November 28, 2020 What expertise do you have to qualify someone as an expert? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teemu’s right foot 53 Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said: What expertise do you have to qualify someone as an expert? Former Chief scientific advisor for phfizer and Vice President and owner of their own pharmaceutical company that they then sold would probably suffice... Edited November 28, 2020 by Teemu’s right foot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
