New Labour Leader

[littleyellowbirdie 2,562]

On 22/07/2023 at 19:54, canarydan23 said:

So, here's a question for the Starmerists, who just this week praised his refusal to pursue populist policies.

What are you now thinking about his spineless approach to ULEZ? People are generally misguided on this, it only affects old cars, Chelsea tractors, high performance vehicles and big vans/lorries.

I regularly drive my 7-seater diesel Combo Life van in ULEZ areas; it doesn't meet the threshold. If that isn't then the vast majority of cars won't either.

But who lives in Uxbridge? And what do they drive? It's the wealthy Range Rover drivers up in arms about it, the high performance sports car owners, etc. These are the people Starmer is now proposing pandering to.

Yes, some poor people with N reg Cavaliers might get caught up in it, but frankly the sooner those cars are off the road the better.

But Starmer is so terrified of upsetting hoity toity residents of places like Uxbridge that he'll let kids in school playgrounds breath in dangerous levels of CO2.

He won't be able to do anything if he doesn't get elected.

With a two party system, it's not really about policies anyway. It's just about convincing enough people you're less unfit to govern than the other lot.

[Barbe bleu 829]

1 hour ago, Herman said:

No you idiot;

"....urgently bring forward proposals to widen the scope and levels of these charges..." Grant Shapps.

(And btw, your boy Bozo introduced them in the first place.)

You keep on doing it, can you not see it? The letter you refer to was written in 2020 and demanded the 2021 enlargement. It's now 2023 and Khan is looking to expand again.  As far as I know there wasn't a 2022 letter demanding this second expansion. I'm happy to be corrected.

Now i didnt really want this to get party politcal or tribal because i dont really care who writes a good or bad policy, as long as the former happens and the latter doesnt but, yes, I know the ulez was a boris policy, I supported the first iteration (the bit boris delivered) I accepted the second (the bit boris proposed and Khan delivered)as I could seem the benefits likely outweighed the costs. I dont accept this expansion, the third iteration (the bit that Khan proposed) is appropriate.

To be clear, I'm talking about the currently proposed expansion of the ULEZ. I am not talking about the ULEZ in general (though given free option I'd probably keep the bits now in existence)

Edited August 2, 2023 by Barbe bleu

[MooreMarriot 311]

Hope he wins . The obvious replacement for the dull and uninspiring Starmer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-66404404

[ricardo 7,395]

2 minutes ago, MooreMarriot said:

Hope he wins . The obvious replacement for the dull and uninspiring Starmer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-66404404

Poor man's Glenda Jackson.

 

[canarydan23 4,060]

1 hour ago, MooreMarriot said:

Hope he wins . The obvious replacement for the dull and uninspiring Starmer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-66404404

If that happened, the cringe from the kool-aid brigade who would inevitably stand up and say "Look, Labour doesn't have a problem with women, we've finally made one our leader" would just be too much.

[Herman 9,795]

1 hour ago, ricardo said:

Poor man's Glenda Jackson.

 

Won't be the first trans MP.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

1 hour ago, ricardo said:

Poor man's Glenda Jackson.

 

Surely poor woman's Glenda Jackson? 

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

1 hour ago, MooreMarriot said:

Hope he wins . The obvious replacement for the dull and uninspiring Starmer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-66404404

Imagine going to all that bother of transitioning only to end up looking like Pat Butcher.

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

Izzard previously: “Anywhere up north… I’d rather be up north, because I’m a kid from down south, and I want to be up north… if people in the north feel the south has it good, then I want to fight for the north.”

Izzard now: "I'm standing in Brighton because she’s “just the latest in over 200 years of Izzards in East Sussex and I’m proud of my roots.” 

T*at

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

On 02/08/2023 at 22:27, Barbe bleu said:

You keep on doing it, can you not see it? The letter you refer to was written in 2020 and demanded the 2021 enlargement. It's now 2023 and Khan is looking to expand again.  As far as I know there wasn't a 2022 letter demanding this second expansion. I'm happy to be corrected.

Akin to debating with a 12 year old isn't it...

In a reply to him in a previous post I stated that Boris's ULEZ proposal covered just 8 square miles, whereas Khan introduced ULEZ in 2019 and his proposal covers 600 square miles..

As per Herman completely ignored it and even went on to argue with you who has also stated factual information.

Anyhow, time for more Labour comedy -- The chap dressed as a zombie (Alistair Strathern) in the following video is standing as Labour’s candidate in Mid Bedfordshire:

God help us.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

2 hours ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said:

Akin to debating with a 12 year old isn't it...

In a reply to him in a previous post I stated that Boris's ULEZ proposal covered just 8 square miles, whereas Khan introduced ULEZ in 2019 and his proposal covers 600 square miles..

As per Herman completely ignored it and even went on to argue with you who has also stated factual information.

Anyhow, time for more Labour comedy -- The chap dressed as a zombie (Alistair Strathern) in the following video is standing as Labour’s candidate in Mid Bedfordshire:

God help us.

Much preferable to a Tory Boy turning up on your doorstep. Somebody with a policy for a change. Not a bunch of lies about keeping no whites out of the country, sorry, Immigration Policy.

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

3 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

Much preferable to a Tory Boy turning up on your doorstep. Somebody with a policy for a change. Not a bunch of lies about keeping no whites out of the country, sorry, Immigration Policy.

You should read more of my content here, Grandpapa and you will learn that I'm hardly enamoured with the current day cons.

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

6 minutes ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said:

You should read more of my content here, Grandpapa and you will learn that I'm hardly enamoured with the current day cons.

Still prefer Johnson?

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

Oh, whilst you're here, Grandpops, I understand you're a resident of Redruth - could you please nip down to Plymouth to verify if the following is correct:

Thanks in advance 🙃

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

2 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

Still prefer Johnson?

Nay, he took us even further into the Net Zero b0ll0cks.

To appease his socialist wife no doubt 😉

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

2 minutes ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said:

Nay, he took us even further into the Net Zero b0ll0cks.

To appease his socialist wife no doubt 😉

No, he pinched Corbyn's manifesto.

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

1 minute ago, keelansgrandad said:

No, he pinched Corbyn's manifesto.

There you go then, even worse.

[PurpleCanary 5,571]

1 hour ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said:

Oh, whilst you're here, Grandpops, I understand you're a resident of Redruth - could you please nip down to Plymouth to verify if the following is correct:

Thanks in advance 🙃

It’s more across than down.

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

1 minute ago, PurpleCanary said:

It’s more across than down.

You are correct - Here's a cookie: 

[Herman 9,795]

Have you heard of tides?

[KiwiScot 1,459]

There's a distinct sense the press and public have got used to Labour goverment being the next goverment and now treat them(while still in opposition) as the actual goverment and holding them to account. Hence the increasing attacks from all sides on Sir Kier and the Labour party especially from the "True" Labour people which people like Hooky will use to beat them with as well. The election has already started and it feels truely ****ed up. Don't think I can recall a potential election where the leaders of both parties lead such a fractious party with the same said for their voters.

Edited August 9, 2023 by KiwiScot

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

18 hours ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said:

Oh, whilst you're here, Grandpops, I understand you're a resident of Redruth - could you please nip down to Plymouth to verify if the following is correct:

Thanks in advance 🙃

Its up to Plymouth from Redruth, Jools. If you cannot get your English geography right, your denier stance gets even more precarious.

[Daz Sparks 1,159]

19 hours ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said:

Oh, whilst you're here, Grandpops, I understand you're a resident of Redruth - could you please nip down to Plymouth to verify if the following is correct:

Thanks in advance 🙃

No disrespect to Keelansgrandad, but you might be better running sea level enquiries past NASA or any other globally reputable organisation with an interest in such matters. 

 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

3 hours ago, Daz Sparks said:

No disrespect to Keelansgrandad, but you might be better running sea level enquiries past NASA or any other globally reputable organisation with an interest in such matters. 

 

Nah. he much prefers nut jobs like Neil Oliver or James Whale.

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

🙃

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

1 minute ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said:

🙃

That is an outright lie. He hasn't made a decision let alone a statement.

[Yellow Fever 3,806]

23 hours ago, Hook's-Walk-Canary said:

Oh, whilst you're here, Grandpops, I understand you're a resident of Redruth - could you please nip down to Plymouth to verify if the following is correct:

Thanks in advance 🙃

You do know it's been split, nibbled, moved, repaired numerous times ? 1867 and the 1920 the last proper 'reset' although 2017 was repaired yet again. 

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

1 hour ago, Yellow Fever said:

You do know it's been split, nibbled, moved, repaired numerous times ? 1867 and the 1920 the last proper 'reset' although 2017 was repaired yet again. 

He won't be listening. He is too busy nitpicking.

[Hook's-Walk-Canary 213]

These people could be running the country next year 🤪

 

[MooreMarriot 311]

On 08/08/2023 at 19:57, Hook's-Walk-Canary said:

Oh, whilst you're here, Grandpops, I understand you're a resident of Redruth - could you please nip down to Plymouth to verify if the following is correct:

Thanks in advance 🙃

 Plymouth Rock, a Massachusetts monument and fabled 1620 landing place of the Pilgrims . So not in Plymouth , England then you idiot.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/07/18/fact-check-plymouth-rock-not-accurate-gauge-sea-level-rise/10010728002/

Edited August 10, 2023 by MooreMarriot