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8 minutes ago, Hairy Canary said:

I already stated that in my view this vote will be harder to pass than the WA. I put "in my view" because that's what it is, no more, no less.

In addition Rory Stewart has indicated he will vote against the timetable but for the WA and as he is one of the "crucial" 23 ex Tories I found that to be quite significant.

I don't doubt that you did, but it is only the 2nd reading, not the decisive vote

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4 minutes ago, Hairy Canary said:

I already stated that in my view this vote will be harder to pass than the WA. I put "in my view" because that's what it is, no more, no less.

In addition Rory Stewart has indicated he will vote against the timetable but for the WA and as he is one of the "crucial" 23 ex Tories I found that to be quite significant.

 

 

This is a guesstimate from the FT's George Parker, who has a reputation for cautious commonsense analysis:

A wild guess at what happens next: @BorisJohnson wins second reading, MPs who feel guilty about backing the deal then block programme motion; EU grants extension of a few weeks. Johnson accepts (and doesn't pull bill). Brexit happens. No election till 2020. Lab changes leader.

EU leaders (bearing in mind that they cannot be certain of how 27 heads of government will vote, however much they predict this or that on an extension) have already indicated they would be open to a short extension.

If Johnson does win the second-reading vote that will have considerable symbolic power, being the first time MPs have voted for some kind of Brexit, however vague in detail, as opposed to continually voting against but then failing to vote for any alternative, which is an increasingly untenable position.

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1 minute ago, Bill said:

from our correspondent Bill - some startling facts about the lower house (for the not too bright)

there are lots of MPs in Parliament, who will vote this evening

if one group have more voting for them they win the vote - and if it is the other way round they will lose

some may well vote for what is best for their upcoming electoral prospects, whereas some might not

most MP's are men, if not......... they are women

not all are from England, or are white either

they sit on seats which a green and are known as benches* - the colour lets them know which part of Parliament they are in

but the colour of MPs does not tell you what party they are in

 

* the seats that is, not the MPs

Thanks Bill.

Although you have different political viewpoints I wonder if you realise how much your personality bears a striking similarity to Boris Johnson's. You know the sort of thing, disrespectful to other viewpoints, belittling, arrogant, sarcastic. Need I go on?  

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21 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

Someone has just asked Rees Mogg if he would buy a house without getting a survey. Paper Hat won't answer as he doesn't ever intend buying anything so impoverished as a house.

Didnt the taxpayers pay for his castle? 

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6 minutes ago, Bill said:

 

most MP's are men, if not......... they are women

No gender spectrum then?

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5 minutes ago, Hairy Canary said:

Thanks Bill.

Although you have different political viewpoints I wonder if you realise how much your personality bears a striking similarity to Boris Johnson's. You know the sort of thing, disrespectful to other viewpoints, belittling, arrogant, sarcastic. Need I go on?  

Oh surely not😉

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Didnt the taxpayers pay for his castle? 

You mean the "most outrageous act of socialist envy" when criticism mounted?

This arrogant Lord Snooty will be the first up against the wall in the "most outrageous act of socialist justice".

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53 minutes ago, Hairy Canary said:

Johnson's not that bad you mean? :classic_wink:

Nope not even BoJo can compare

 

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I expect tonight will be another rinse and repeat.

So long as the EU keep offering the can, Parliament will keep kicking it.

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What a low IQ lot Liebore are, judging by their debating level.  They should rename themselves to reflect the fact that they will only have seats in London after the next GE.  

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27 minutes ago, ricardo said:

I expect tonight will be another rinse and repeat.

So long as the EU keep offering the can, Parliament will keep kicking it.

Would at least be a start if the Bill was passed. May well be a hollow victory though.

But would be nice for us both to be proved right in our predictions from a long time ago,  that a WA would be approved..........😉

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1 minute ago, Van wink said:

Would at least be a start if the Bill was passed. May well be a hollow victory though.

But would be nice for us both to be proved right in our predictions from a long time ago,  that a WA would be approved..........😉

Now then, you know it will wind him up.👍

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6 minutes ago, ricardo said:

Now then, you know it will wind him up.👍

I feel a heavy moral duty not to hurt his feelings!

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Done......about time too!

Bigger majority than I had expected.

But the next one will  probably go the other way.

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8 hours ago, Van wink said:

It’s the sort of deal I had hoped for, presumably the FT has good sources but it will be very close

You hoped for a deal that would cost the country £135 billion over the next 15 years and sell us down the river to Trump and his cronies? Oh.

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5 minutes ago, kick it off said:

You hoped for a deal that would cost the country £135 billion over the next 15 years and sell us down the river to Trump and his cronies? Oh.

   10 hours ago,  Hairy Canary said: 

I would be a little surprised if there aren't the numbers for the Customs Union amendment. I've always felt that was a reasonable compromise way forward and that eventually it would succeed.

 

It’s the sort of deal I had hoped for, presumably the FT has good sources but it will be very close"

 

Read the whole thing! I was refering to a customs union amendment.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Van wink said:
   10 hours ago,  Hairy Canary said: 

I would be a little surprised if there aren't the numbers for the Customs Union amendment. I've always felt that was a reasonable compromise way forward and that eventually it would succeed.

 

It’s the sort of deal I had hoped for, presumably the FT has good sources but it will be very close"

Read the whole thing! I was refering to a customs union amendment.

Got it - apologies!

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