Ricardo's report the AGM 2018

[keelansgrandad 6,679]

 

i assume the safe standing area would only be at the bottom of the Barclay. And if they don't put it in, it isn't going to stop people going so why bother until there is a cheaper way.

[Bill 1,788]

In fact, why bother at all ?

The club, as elsewhere are turning a blind eye to it, making only token gestures to make it appear that they are following the rules.

Raising this matter will achieve little at this moment beyond drawing unnecessary attention to something that seems yo have resolved itself, albeit in a sort of laissez faire manner.

Let sleeping dogs lie is the best advice here.

[ricardo 7,397]

58 minutes ago, keelansgrandad said:

 I was a bit miffed to find theyd sold Ron Davies

You're kidding me. When did that happen. I thought he was injured or something.

Nearly as long as Jarvis😀

[ricardo 7,397]

2 minutes ago, Bill said:

In fact, why bother at all ?

The club, as elsewhere are turning a blind eye to it, making only token gestures to make it appear that they are following the rules.

Raising this matter will achieve little at this moment beyond drawing unnecessary attention to something that seems yo have resolved itself, albeit in a sort of laissez faire manner.

Let sleeping dogs lie is the best advice here.

Spot on, Bill.

[lappinitup 629]

Was Steve Stone mentioned Ricardo?

[Diane 500]

1 minute ago, lappinitup said:

Was Steve Stone mentioned Ricardo?

Yes he was thanked for his hard work & wished well in  the future 

[River End Canary 18]

42 minutes ago, Diane said:

Yes he was thanked for his hard work & wished well in  the future 

Diane did Robin Sainty ask a question about his specialist interests? 

[GMF 756]

Ricardo, the negative £5m to which you refer in your initial post isn’t the forecast loss - its the cash in hand position. 

[ricardo 7,397]

13 minutes ago, GMF said:

Ricardo, the negative £5m to which you refer in your initial post isn’t the forecast loss - its the cash in hand position. 

correct, and they said it was easily coverable with the existing overdraft arrangements.

[Diane 500]

5 hours ago, River End Canary said:

Diane did Robin Sainty ask a question about his specialist interests? 

No he wasn't there Waveney

Edited November 23, 2018 by Diane

[Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,037]

Many thanks Ricardo.....

 

[......and Smith must score. 1,359]

7 hours ago, keelansgrandad said:

 

i assume the safe standing area would only be at the bottom of the Barclay. And if they don't put it in, it isn't going to stop people going so why bother until there is a cheaper way.

Back in the day it was always cheaper to stand than to sit at Carrow Rd but I doubt the club will be too keen now. Why pay out to create standing space and then lose income too ?

[ricardo 7,397]

26 minutes ago, ......and Smith must score. said:

Back in the day it was always cheaper to stand than to sit at Carrow Rd but I doubt the club will be too keen now. Why pay out to create standing space and then lose income too ?

That's why I said we are not likely to see it anytime soon.

Or ever.

It seems completely unviable unless a new stand is built and there's little prospect of that even in the medium term.

[vos 155]

Rather surprisingly very little praise directed to Daniel Farke from the floor. Perhaps reflecting usual Norfolk reticence that we think our league position is a bit false. Time will tell. Thought the stage managed few words from the owners was a good idea in theory, albeit it somewhat emphasised the age differences on the Board !! Overall several relevant issues raised which were answered with openness and honesty. Thought the new finance guy gave a very good presentation although highlighting football finances continue to be for the gamblers/funny money boys rather than sound and sensible investors.

[TIL 1010 4,789]

13 hours ago, ricardo said:

It may be popular with some but will they be prepered to pay for it? I remain skeptical that we will see it at CR anytime soon.

With projected costs against projected income having i believe a £21.2 million gap in 2018/19 coupled with our self funding model safe standing will be off the agenda for some years i would imagine.

[nutty nigel 7,602]

I'm pretty sure I heard Ed Balls say that most of our supporters choose to sit but many of those support the idea of having an area for those who prefer to stand. This is where I see a potential problem. Because as I've said before, although it's admirable that they support their fellow fans, many of the people publicly supporting safe standing won't be on those terraces even if it becomes legal. For me, before this ever reaches a point where our club consider spending money, there needs to be proper research done to find out how many actually want to use the standing area.

[Diane 500]

Here's the video that we watched at the AGM last night

 

[TIL 1010 4,789]

11 hours ago, nutty nigel said:

I'm pretty sure I heard Ed Balls say that most of our supporters choose to sit but many of those support the idea of having an area for those who prefer to stand. This is where I see a potential problem. Because as I've said before, although it's admirable that they support their fellow fans, many of the people publicly supporting safe standing won't be on those terraces even if it becomes legal. For me, before this ever reaches a point where our club consider spending money, there needs to be proper research done to find out how many actually want to use the standing area.

Nutty gets it.

[Diane 500]

11 hours ago, nutty nigel said:

I'm pretty sure I heard Ed Balls say that most of our supporters choose to sit but many of those support the idea of having an area for those who prefer to stand. This is where I see a potential problem. Because as I've said before, although it's admirable that they support their fellow fans, many of the people publicly supporting safe standing won't be on those terraces even if it becomes legal. For me, before this ever reaches a point where our club consider spending money, there needs to be proper research done to find out how many actually want to use the standing area.

Spot on Nutty.

Out if interest who prefers to sit or stand on here.

I am a sitter 😀

[lappinitup 629]

1 minute ago, Diane said:

Out if interest who prefers to sit or stand on here.

I am a sitter 😀

Most women are. 😀

[ricardo 7,397]

Most of those now pushing for safe standing will be glad they've got a seat by the time it is enacted.😀

[Diane 500]

Here's a few more articles worth reading about the AGM

Ed Balls

https://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/canaries-chairman-ed-balls-on-financial-figures-in-accounts-and-sustaining-a-championship-promotion-push-1-5792181

Stuart Webber

https://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/canaries-sporting-director-stuart-webber-on-southampton-job-links-and-daniel-farke-s-contract-status-1-5791767

Delia

https://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city-football-club-annual-general-meeting-2018-delia-smith-pledges-we-will-do-our-very-best-for-you-1-5791723

Recap

https://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/canaries-annual-shareholders-meeting-from-carrow-road-live-coverage-1-5791324

[GMF 756]

Although the majority of fans prefer to sit, the majority in the lower Barclay already stand - although some are probably doing so out of necessity, rather than personal preference.

The lower Barclay actually has the highest ratio of season ticket holders to the total number of seats - there’s currently only just over 100 available for casual purchase for each game. There’s also a number of fans wanting to move to this section of the ground. There’s certainly plenty of demand for this area and likely to be so when change happens. 

However, any consultation for change by the Club will be dependent on two factors; the completion of the ongoing Hillsborough legal cases, and, once they’ve finished, a change in the law. 

I suspect that the Club will probably either be reliant on Premier League cash, or another bond issue, to fund the installation cost.

Just a personal thought, anyone expecting a significant reduction in season ticket prices, is also likely to be disappointed, especially given the huge demand for seats in the lower Barclay.

[TIL 1010 4,789]

So in a nutshell Gary it isn't going to be happening anytime soon and as far as Norwich City is concerned the demand is not known, we cannot afford it and the cost of tickets will not be reduced.

I do think some of us having been saying that all along but got jumped on for being negative and looking for a stick etc.

[GMF 756]

“Anytime soon”, I guess that depends on your definition of “soon”? I have no insight on the timings of the Hillsborough court cases - the FSF and Supporters Direct, who’re in the process of merging, have no intention of lobbying for change until they’re concluded. It’s called showing sensitivity.

Personally, I believe it will happen, I’m just not sure exactly when.

[TIL 1010 4,789]

If the FSF and Supporters Direct are showing sensitivity by not calling for change until the Hillsborough court cases are concluded why were Norwich City lobbying the Minister of Sport recently by taking a delegation of fans and club officials to Westminster ?

By the way the call for change is not supported by the Hillsborough families i believe ?

[FenwayFrank 2,467]

So nobody is allowed to talk about it ? You’re cherry picking to support your anti board argument. Why not have a go at everyone that recently signed the petition to have safe standing discussed in parliament while you’re at it ? 

[TIL 1010 4,789]

27 minutes ago, FenwayFrank said:

So nobody is allowed to talk about it ? You’re cherry picking to support your anti board argument. Why not have a go at everyone that recently signed the petition to have safe standing discussed in parliament while you’re at it ? 

How on earth is this subject which i am discussing with Gary Field ' anti board ' ?  I am not cherry picking by the way unless you can point out what i have missed in my posts on the matter so far.

The petition to which you refer was called for by the FSF the very same organisation who Gary Field now states have no intention of calling for change until after the court cases have been concluded. If that is the case why not hold back that petition until then ?

Edited November 25, 2018 by TIL 1010

[River End Canary 18]

1 hour ago, FenwayFrank said:

So nobody is allowed to talk about it ? You’re cherry picking to support your anti board argument. Why not have a go at everyone that recently signed the petition to have safe standing discussed in parliament while you’re at it ? 

Your not the sharpest tool in the box are you checkout dolly 

[GMF 756]

John, it wasn’t a FSF petition, it was actually started by an individual, Owen Riches, who happens to support Ipswich - not that that matters particularly.

Tracey Crouch, who, unfortunately is no longer Sports minister, was, I’m led to believe, already fairly knowledgeable, but eager to talk to various parties throughout football, including Clubs, in order to guage opinion and get a better understanding of all the likely issues associated with safe standing.