firststeps 0 Posted June 11, 2016 Good every so often! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
? 0 Posted June 11, 2016 Lol, said exactly the same to the Missus and the Boy! Loads of pace, no end product! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabbycanary3 994 Posted June 11, 2016 Ditto here! Loads of space to run into, and attack the full back, so what does he decide to do..............Rose looked more effective at crossing than Sterling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted June 11, 2016 Don''t particularly agree.Sterling has more pace. Redmond is more of a thinking player.People see Redmond as an ultra pacey winger but that isn''t actually his game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lessingham Canary 108 Posted June 11, 2016 They look similar, ends there for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
? 0 Posted June 11, 2016 Whilst he hasn''t had the bests of season, for me Ross Barkley would be a far better option as a creative midfielder than Sterling, but with that, where does Rooney fit in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djc 0 Posted June 11, 2016 Sterling is Rocky Rooster from chicken run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lessingham Canary 108 Posted June 11, 2016 Ron, Wilshire is also more dynamic, but Roy will stand by Rooney until the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jools 584 Posted June 11, 2016 There were times tonight Sterling reminded me of Lee Crofts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted June 11, 2016 Barkley over complicates and wastes too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,751 Posted June 11, 2016 He''s the same in that his own fans criminally underrate him, forget he''s still very young and expect him to be able to beat teams by himself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
? 0 Posted June 11, 2016 Agreed, the thing is with Rooney, he was trying to play the Gerrard role and he''s not in the same class to do that. Centre forward or nowhere for Rooney IMO, let''s have the best creative players in the creative positions.To be fair, I thought we did really well in the first half although we didn''t put their keeper under enough pressure in terms of shots. It was also nice to see some passion in the first half but once we started the second half it was as if Hughton had given the half time team talk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted June 11, 2016 Tricky. Nobody else has Rooney''s combination of vision, awareness and range of passing.Wilshere has something in his locker but his injuries make it hard to build around him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,246 Posted June 11, 2016 Just think Sterling cost Man City £49 million and Stoke hope to get Redmond for £10 million.......yeah dream on Mark Hughes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lessingham Canary 108 Posted June 11, 2016 That was to lessingham.Ron, Rooney is not anywhere near a Gerrard IMO, he is a top player, but a long way off what he was, When on top you have to score and kill games off, and the skipper has to take a large part of the responsibility for that, and England couldn''t do that tonite, and are quite predictable.Barkley and Wilshire offer so much, but managers have their favourites and Roy is quite clear on who his are. Do you think England will beat Wales ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted June 11, 2016 In fairness Rooney was pretty much controlling the game. Not a great decision to take him off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
? 0 Posted June 11, 2016 After watching the two games, tbh, I think it will be a draw. Wales have the cards as far as the forwards are concerned, obviously thats my opinion, we have to defuse the Bale threat but their defence is weak. England need to capitalise on this weakness, control midfield,but most of all, shoot on sight.Perhaps we should go with Kane and Vardy up front and sacrifice a defensive midfielder in Dier, even though he scored tonight. (It was from a free kick not open play). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,751 Posted June 11, 2016 [quote user="GJP"]In fairness Rooney was pretty much controlling the game. Not a great decision to take him off.[/quote]Eh? No he wasn''t. Played a couple of nice cross field passes but ''controlling the game'' is a stretch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted June 11, 2016 Watch the game back. You need to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,751 Posted June 11, 2016 [quote user="Ron Manager"]After watching the two games, tbh, I think it will be a draw. Wales have the cards as far as the forwards are concerned, obviously thats my opinion, we have to defuse the Bale threat but their defence is weak. England need to capitalise on this weakness, control midfield,but most of all, shoot on sight.Perhaps we should go with Kane and Vardy up front and sacrifice a defensive midfielder in Dier, even though he scored tonight. (It was from a free kick not open play).[/quote]If we dropped Dier we''d have a midfield of Rooney, Ali, Lallana and Sterling- do you really not see an issue with that?We need Dier as we need a holding midfielder. Even the very best teams in the world play with a holding midfielder these days as without one counter attacking is far too easy. Drop Dier and Wales will tear us apart with their pace on the counter attack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,751 Posted June 11, 2016 [quote user="GJP"]Watch the game back. You need to.[/quote]He was good but he wasn''t controlling the game. I could the logic in taking him off for Wilshere (looked a bit leggy) but it didn''t work out. I''m not saying he was bad but controlling the game is pushing it for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king canary 8,751 Posted June 11, 2016 I''d add that I thought when we went 1-0 up the obvious change was Vardy for Kane. Kane hadn''t done much and Vardy''s pace would have allowed us to stretch Russia more as they came forward in search of the equaliser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thecanaryfan 0 Posted June 11, 2016 Sterling was the only player tonight that didn''t turn up. Even my wife thought he was shocking and she knows f all. Agree with a previous comment. Barkley in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
? 0 Posted June 12, 2016 My whole point King Canary (duely bows) was that yes, we do away with a holding MFielder and go on the attack. Wales defence is their most vunerable point so exploit it, if we continually press the need for a defensive midfielder is less.Anyway,it was just a thought! 😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Wall Of Tettey 0 Posted June 12, 2016 It would be interesting to see how sterling would have developed if he wasn''t flattered playing alongside Suarez and Gerrard at Liverpool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Juler 208 Posted June 12, 2016 Said just the same last night about Sterling reminding me of Redmond. No doubt that both of them have a great level of ability, but there''s no point beating your man on the wing 10 times if you then can''t deliver a decent ball into the box. It''s always head down and run, never looking to see what else is happening.That''s why Beckham was such a great winger, he never once beat a man but he was able to deliver pin point balls into the box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GJP 79 Posted June 12, 2016 Have you ever even seen Redmond play? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Hockey's Beard 605 Posted June 12, 2016 What exactly does Lallana do to be on the pitch?IMO there are too many players in the team who are there because they were good a few years ago - and usually for their previous team, such as Lallana and Sterling.Also, what is Milner for, apart from giving the ball away? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legend Iwan 30 Posted June 12, 2016 Bemused that Redmond is now getting flak for taking players on too much after there was a whole thread not long ago where posters were complaining he didn''t do just that enough.He''ll be missed once he''s gone in the summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites