scott

Gibbs has been much better in our last 2 games thoug he is still well short of being a decent Championship level player due to his lack of physique. If he fills out then he is worth a go in the future otherwise not!

[quote user="Citizen Journalist Foghorn"]   Safe Terracing....   i would like to see this at Carrow Road. [/quote]   Precisely!   16 years since terracing was last seen at Carrow Road and most of the Barclay lower tier fans still prefer to stand!   The Taylor report has seen a massive improvement in ground quality over the Country but the banning of standing areas can''t be justifyed. The terrible events at Hillsborough in 1989 were caused by the police opening the gates letting anyone in and fences and pens which allow fans to get out of the overcrowded area, nothing at all to do with the fact it was a terrace.   Each club that wants a standing area should be allowed one such area in their ground for home fans only. Ours obviously would be the Barclay lower tier. No fences or pens of which there aren''t any these days anyway would be outlawed. A walkway in front of the terrace and at each end would further ensure the safety. A stand like the Barclay lower converted to terrace would safely hold four standing persons per 3 seats.   Allowing such a scheme would be a tremendous boost for the game in this Country.

I quite agree that dropping Russell whos been one of our best players this season, a guy who will run through wallls for the team and playing in his place Gibbs whos produced nothing till then looking way out his depth wasn''t a wise move. What makes it even more crazy is that Hucks was moved out of his best position out wide on the left so that Gibbs could play there! Madness!   I have pulled my hair out about Roeder picking Gibbs when hes done nothing but I''ll give him credit for his best display yet against West Brom although he was still backing out of 50-50 balls and his heading ability didn''t look good when he was presented with the chance to score.    I''m convinced that Roeders tinkering, dropping players in good form to accomodate so obviousy out of their depth young loanees has contributed to our current predicament. He thought we were safe in January so started to experiment which has cost us badly!   Nows not the time to mess about Glen - Saturday we''ve got to put our best team out and get a good result!

Because most of the yound players on our books are blatantly not good enough!   James Henry was awful and Gibbs although looking better on Saturday is not physically strong enough to make a mark for us in this Division done buggerall in his previous games!  So really we gained little if anything at all by taking these 2 on loan.

The Barclay and snakepit are still very vocal though I''ve always found that when its sunny the Barclay looks directly into the sun and sometimes this nullifys the atmosphere!   As everybody know the Barclay lower tier should be a standing area with terracing, now that would help the atmosphere no end!

[quote user="haggis"]This may offend a lot of the City faithfull but I personally think that Huckerby is seriously overated along with being a bad influence in the changing room. I think Roeder has worked this out pretty quickly hence not renewing contract. Yes, ok he has had a few blinders in the last 4 years and when in full flow a joy to watch, but all in all he is not a team player, cant tackle, cant head, cant defend. He is an out and out striker playing in midfield and very high maintenance we cannot have the luxury of. Correct me if I am wrong but we won more games without him than we have with him during our promotion year! Trust Roeder to make us a team again.[/quote]   Why do people immediately assume the Hucks is not getting another contract?   The clubs saying nothing and at the moment as the great man himself said on Radio Norfolk today we still are not safe from relegation and until that issue gets sorted out then other stuff is on the backburner!   Yes Hucks can be outspoken but the guy has an extra dimension that most other players don''t poccess and can still do it as we''ve seen in recent weeks!   I laugh when people say that we should keep Hucks and use him as a impact substitute next season. - GET REAL! - If Hucks is fit or even below full fitness he is a threat and would therefore be an automatic choice next season. His fitness is still very good and those who thinks he''ll be a good substitute make him out to be an old Dion Dublin type who can''t run and can''t last 90 minutes!   Quite simply it would be a huge error to let Hucks go at the moment when he can still do more than a job and states he doesn''t want to play for anyone else in England!   Roeder could even be signing his own Norwich managerial death certifiate if he lets Hucks go cause most fans would be gutted if he left, particularly when hes still good enough. If Hucks go and we start of bedly next season the pressure will be huge on Mr Roeder.  

[quote user="BlyBlyBabes"] The Golden Age of Norwich City was the ten years under Robert Chase. 1986-1996. An undisputable fact. And you can''t take that away from him. Nor should those who know better try to forget the stunning work of Ken Brown, Dave Stringer and Mike Walker during our Golden Age. OTBC     [/quote]   I agree they were good times except that they ended about January 1995 when we started a mammoth slide from 7th at Xmas 94 to relegation by end of the season. The period from January 95 until Chases departure around the end of the 95/96 season I would not describe as a ''glory'' time for the club cause we went from top premiership to 16th in what is now the Championship and were selling players of just to keep going and in fact very nearly did go out of business!   We''ve certainly reaped the benefits of Chases land deals in recent years although at the time it set us back the best part of 10 years and he wasted money on unecessary luxuries which would of been better spent on giving Walker a chance to build on his success!   When you look back on our (mostly) struggles since 1995 and look back at the Ken Brown, Dave Stringer, Mike Walker eras before that then we realise just how good we were for 10 years until the early 90''s and how we took it for granted!

Yes we were and Worthy knew it as well when he stood on the touchline at that horrible Sunday mauling at Carrow Road against Burnley. In hindsight it should have been done a year earlier. In fact if he''d of left immediately after our relegation then things would have been better but the board or no one else for that mater would of thought sacking him then and he would never of fell on his sword!   The board got a lot of critiscism at the time for hanging on too long with Worthy, but it was a difficult decision to make when looking at his overall track record for us which was very good up until the Premiership season when he made too many bad signings and got rid of guys like Malky and Iwan too soon!   Hindsights a wonderful thing cause its way easier to look back and spot problem areas than what it is at the time!   Peter Grant with his good playing career, previous association at NCFC, enthusiasm, ambition and good coaching spell at West Ham appeared to be a good candidate for the job! - If we''d of known about his managerial ineptitudes, lack of decent contacts and poor man management skills then he''d of never been considered! - Though I''ll always give Grant credit for doing the right thing and getting out when he knew it wasn''t going to happen for him at NCFC rather than hang on grimly like Worthy did!

I expect I''ll end up going but at this moment in time what with our Championship status not guaranteed, I couldn''t give a shiny sh**e about a pre season friendly!

All this stuff about Hucks staying next year EVEN AS A SUPER SUB!   - GET REAL, the guys still one of our best players so would play games unless unfit!   If Hucks is not signed on for another year then it would be a huge error and would put Roeder under ernormous pressure.

At the moment is missing too many chances so has to drop to the bench for next weeks game!

Get in the real world pleeease!   Earnie left us cause he had a chance of getting back into the Premiership cause a team was prepared to pay the price. He is probably on more at Derby than he was at Norwich. A Pro footballers career is a short one so every opportunity has to be taken!   As for the earlier comment about him needing 40 chances to score a goal. Well his excellent record of 27 goals in only 41 games meant that in those 41 games he had 27X40 chances which comes up as 1080 chances in only 41 games which is 26.34 chances a game which we all knew didn''t happen!   Fans who think that players have an affinity with their clubs are living in cloud cuckoo land! Players with an affinity to the clubs they play for are few and far between!    For the record Earnie like many players did enjoy living in the area but his good form in a team that wasn''t going to get promoted meant that was going to get offers to play at a higher level! If we got him for a reasonable price I''d welcome Earnie back cause he is a proven prolific goalscoer at this level, though only if we get a big targetman as well!

Cureton on his day is a very good striker but hes not got the pace or strength to play as a winger and that showed today!   Bertrand had a nightmare and its crazy he wasn''t subbed a lot sooner!   Camara in my opinion never done anything wrong to deserve getting dropped in the 1st place and was far more solid than Bertrand!   Fozzy was much missed today, We''d of been so much tighter without him and the Scum wouldn''t of created half as much chances as they did!   We somehow escaped an absolute hiding today!

[quote user="ricardo"] Listening to the commentary this seems the main reason for our loss. We have had this problem most of the season. Foozy badly missed today IMO.   [/quote]   That indeed was the case!   We are a good team when we play football but today we were so outplayed that our only outlet for the majority of the game was to give it the big aimless hoof which never works!   I''m still amazed that we only lost 2-1 cause it should of been a thrashing!    

Pearce was far inferior to the Doc today!   While Pearce has done well hes still very inexperienced and lets opposing players outmuscle him far too easily!   Shacks and Doc are our best centre back pairing at this club until hopefully we sign Taylor in the summer!

Without the bad misses and saves from Marshall we''d of been absolutely slaughtered today at Scumland!   Yet another case of someone posting a strong opinion on a game when they wern''t actually there!

After the years of torment hes had on ''CabbageCall'' I wouldn''t be surprised!

Buy a lottery ticket - Got more chance there mate!

When on form is a quality player. We should give him one more season to try and get a good run of games out of him. Another injury hit year and we should get rid!

[quote user="mickbpne"] just wonderin what your views on the guy are? im a north ender and so far he has been a good signing for us. 3 in 13, but his workrate has been 1st class! even talk of him being player of the year which for a january signing is quite impresive so far has at least 3 man of the match awards, not bad going seen as we have only had at the most 7 home games since his arrival cud see him and curaton working well together for you. especially with curaton banging them in for you at the minute [/quote]   A much better player than what he was given credit for at Norwich although the money Preston paid for him when considering his overall record for Norwich in a year was way to much to turn down!   But he left cause someone was prepared to pay money for him. Hes far superior to some of our young players still contracted to the club like the Jarvis bros, Eagle, Martin and the notoriously bad loan players Henry and Gibbs but of course these players will probably never command a fee and will have to be given away! He was never going to be a prolific goalscorer but came to the club when Grant was in the process of nearly making us dead certs for the drop, was asked to play up front on his own and was made a scapegoat by many fans!   I think he would of done OK at Norwich as a squad player now cause we''ve only got one targetman whos about to retire!

[quote user="lucky green trainers"][quote user="scott"] I was so glad that against ColU on Saturday Roeder finally stops messing around with certain loan players who aren''t good enough and different formations and played with his best available 11 in a formation which worked so well for us in our 13 game unbeaten run just after Roeder arrived!   But if we''d of stuck with this workable formation and picked our best availbale 11 players during the recent lean spell then I think it wouldn''t of been such a lean spell and we''d already be safe, maybe even still pushing for the last play off spot!   Keep it simple Glen like we did against ColU till the end of the season, stick with players who are good enough and formations that work and we should be safe well before the last game at Sheff Wed!  [/quote] as sure as eggs are eggs.  we all commented to the same effect pre-match when the team was announced over the tannoy. imagine we''d got 2-3 experienced players in the jan window - and kept our winning run going.  we we''re top of the form table back then, and got within 4 points of the play-offs spot.   we tinkered, and went promtly in reverse - getting to within 4 points of the last relegation spot!!! and lets not forget - when rusty was saying pre-hull we could go for play-offs - they were the team that subsequently went on a winning run after, and now stand 3 points off the top 2!!! indeed, hull are the dark horses for the top now. when the young loanees came in at the time, i suggested the city board were content with survival first, no play-off ambition - but little did i realise they''d have us flirting with relegation again.  what a hopeless amateur shower they are.  as hull have strongly demonstrated,  a little bit of ambition can take you a long way..... glad to see the ship steadied this weekend.  i must say though, pearce did well when he came on for the doc - and also plastic had his best game at left back - and looked like he could do a very good job there.  first time i''ve seen it in him, but consistency is the name of the game from now on - and can he do it against better sides??? boy has obvious talent though.   Couldn''t agree more!   Its been painfull watching the likes of Gibbs and Henry playing instead of  better and established players when they are so obviously out of their depth and I couldn''t imagine they''d get into any other Championship side not even ColU!   I hope that in the near future that the next influx of players into the club whether permanent or on loan are of a much higher quality and good enough for the 1st team! [/quote]

[quote user="chicken"]Although I agree with the sentiments it wasn''t the same sid - well not if you include three or four changes. Hucks played little of that run as Croft was the chosen winger. We had Camara at left back. Taylor for the first part of the run. I am not saying that it wasn''t the best team on Saturday but I think that the team was not the same one that was out in those games. [/quote]   But it was our best available side full of players willing to fight for the cause and was devoid of out of their depth scared young loanees!

No real (pre SKY TV Premiership circus) fan likes the facts in modern day terms that the football is only part of a football clubs business but it has to be that way cause otherwise we''d be in even more debt if we didn''t have non football income streams!   How many sporting organisations would make a profit just on programme sales and gate receipts only? - None is probably the answer!   I dread to think how expensive our season tickets would be without any commercial structure at the club and just relying on gate income!   This is coming from me who still bemoans the loss of the old Barclay terrace! - They''d do everyone a favour particularly in the Barclay lower tier if the football authorities relax the terrace ban and make the lower tier a standing area!   Anyway I''d consider the Norwich union Community stand a neccesity cause apart from the office space they rent out and the improved ticket office the extra 1500+ seats have been filled more times than they haven''t so therefore the club have made money from the bandwagon jumpers who''ve come on board the last 6-7 years! (I''m not suggesting that everyone who sits in the NU Community stand is a bandwagon jumper but I remember watching top flight footy at Carrow Rd in the early 1990''s when the crowds were down to 10,000 so obviously a lot of people have come out of the woodwork so have to be accomodated as well as the longer term fans so the extra capacity created has in reality been a neccessity!) I''d agree that the club have held back at vital points particularly when not signing Crouch when they had the chance and Taylor in January but then again I''m relieved we didn''t sign Cotteril, Eastwood, Varney or Sharp who we''ve all bid as much as £2M for cause I think we''d of been puklling our hair out over those overpriced muppets!   I find it hard to critiscise our off field activities cause they have helped us to enjoy the massive support we do, its certainly not the performances on the pitch!   With the high level of season ticket sales so far the board will have to back Roeder with serious money in the summer or more and moe people will become disillusioned, but it isn''t everything!

The Doc - good stopper, not that great in the distribution department! - but overall you''ll not get many better CB''s in this Division!   Games are much clearer and you get a much better understanding of whats happening in the game when your actually in the ground and not listening to coverage over the internet or on the radio either in this Country or in another Country!!   I just hope whatever the problem was that caused the Doc to go off won''t keep him out for very long cause we looked better at the back when he was on the pitch!

I was told that a ColU fan got into the Barclay lower tier towards the end of the game after they open the exit gates to let early leavers out and started going apeshit but how true this is I don''t know, maybe this was the same incident and the guy who told got confused, being a foriegner!