kick it off

Fair play MEBO, that''s how you react when you''ve obviously gone about things the wrong way on here - kudos for having the balls to admit you were wrong in your phrasing etc. In response to your points, I don''t think Ruddy is the real problem - I can think of maybe 3 goals I would put solely on him all season, our defence is the issue and makes Ruddy look worse than he is as he is constantly under pressure (which in turn, blame can be passed to midfield from defence etc). I agree, he is not the greatest in gathering crosses, but Greeno had a habit of flapping at crosses too and I didn''t hear anyone saying he was a bad keeper! The shot-stopping of Ruddy is top notch in my book, no complaints there. His distribution is generally ok too. I think he''s a solid Prem goalie. Nothing spectacular, but certainly worthy of his place in the Prem. I totally agree about Rudd needing a loan before he stagnates though.

People aren''t calling you a scummer because you''re criticising a player by the way, it''s because your opinion is useless and overrated and if you genuinely believe the tosh you''re spouting then you have clearly never seen a Norwich match.

"Costs us more points than the 2 he gained us at Liverpool" - Yeah ok, except we got a draw at Liverpool and therefore 1 point - have u ever watched Ruddy play? He''s a decent keeper and made a blinding save today from Taarabt''s free-kick amongst others.

Yes Moro did well and scored today, I for one couldn''t be happier about that. I criticised him vs Wolves, Spurs and Fulham, Doesn''t mean that I want him to fail. He is not above criticism, and there''s no reason he should be. He has put in some very lacklustre performances recently, and just because he did well today doesnt mean that he didn''t have a poor game in the previous few. Some people on here have very little grasp of reality and don''t seem to understand the concept that just because Moro is a decent player and has put in some great shifts for us, doesn''t mean he shouldnt be criticised when he doesn''t perform to his own standards.

Source?

Thought Fulham were pathetic today. Timewasting from 30th minute, finished the last 15 without a striker on the pitch and took off their only attacking mid (aside from Dempsey) for a defensive one. Fully deserved the point and probably all 3 in my opinion, thought we were decent today and unlucky on a number of occasions - especially playing against 12 men with Webb fully on their side. A side note, I know the commentators said Bennett''s turn and cross but im about 99% sure it was actually Bradley Johnson so he should receive the plaudits for that, was a wonderful ball in but all credit to Jacko, smallest man in the box rose above and put it in exactly the right spot. Unstoppable. Well done Norwich, onwards and upwards!

Winner vs Derby. Without a doubt. Best atmosphere I''ve experienced inside Carrow Road since Bayern all those years ago.

Funny how things change. I said exactly this after Wolves and was absolutely ripped to shreds on here for having an opinion.

I''m not being funny but we sell our ground out every week, why should I feel sorry for someone who is taking a Norwich fan''s seat? I didn''t see this incident and it sounds pretty harsh, but surely if he was 11 he should have been accompanied and if he was then whoever escorted him should have had the nous to tell him to keep it shut, and if he wasn''t then he shouldn''t have been there alone...

I said it was a crap performance but a good point from a place we traditionally return from empty handed. I also said Moro didn''t run very much. Apparently that means I dont appreciate how well the team is doing, Im not enjoying being in the Prem, I need to get a life and learn how to enjoy the good times, and various other nonsensical comments just because I wasn''t enamoured with the performance and I thought Wolves had the better chances. I am so done with this message board, it used to be a place to express views and chat to other fans, now it''s full of tossers trying to score virtual metaphorical points off each other. I''ve been a member of this board since 2005 and this will be my last post on here.

Oz - I was surprised how good the away kit looked to be honest. Im not a massive fan of it but it actually looked quite tidy on the pitch.

I''m not quite sure I understand anyone on this thread to be honest.... All I said was we were crap today, and explained why I thought so and apparently I hate being in the Premier League and Im not enjoying it? Lets be honest, Wolves are a poor team, but Molineux is a hard place to come and we never fare well here - I was there a few seasons ago when we lost 2-0 and didnt have a shot until 93rd min and that went out for a throw in. If you''d offered me a draw before the game Id''ve taken it, I came out feeling disappointed not to have won it after leading twice and giving away two sloppy goals, but delighted with the point nonetheless. We haven''t played well for weeks apart from Newcastle, we got bombarded at the weekend and in my opinion Wolves created a fair few more clear cut opportunities and many of our shots were speculative although a few did force Hennessy into decent saves. Im not saying I expect us to tear teams apart every week, but today I felt we were outplayed and we were second to every ball, and got dominated in the air. I travelled 4 hours each way to Exeter away to watch an awful 1-1 draw 2.5 years ago, I know what it felt like to be crap, Im ecstatic with what we''ve achieved and these are much happier days for us City fans. Im not turning on the team, Im not calling for anyone to be dropped, but simply saying we had a bad game and fortunately managed to keep hold of a point IN MY VIEW. If you all saw it differently then fair enough, but there were plenty around me in Molineux who saw it the way I did. No-one is right or wrong here, they''re opinions and regardless of whether we play good bad or indifferent, I''m sure we''re all very proud of our last few years and our present situation

Were u at Molineux Nutty? I''m not trying to have any kind of dig, just wondering if maybe it was a case of those who were there seeing what the TV cameras din''t pick up when Moro was ambling round the pitch looking lost for large spells as everyone who streamed it seems to think he had a great game, whilst those that were there are saying he was poor. He''s still one of my favourite players, I think he could easily be worth 6 or 7 mill by summer - that volley the other week was reminiscent of Gossy technique!

I didnt see said incident Newc Brown, but as I wandered up to the train station I did witness about 5 Wolves fans being restrained by police as they were trying to get to the Norwich coaches. Bunch of tossers.

City 1st - I''ve had English commentary for every game except one of the first games (I forget which, maybe Stoke) and the ones I''ve made it to. Actually Man City I could barely get a picture too tbf. There is always a decent stream if you look around for it and there is almost always at least a half decent one in English.

That''s what an assist is City 1st... I''m not saying he is garbage, I said I really like him as a player but he was poor tonight. Read my post before you start slagging me off...

No his highlight was definitely the assist for Simeon''s goal, he skinned their defender and put it on a plate for Jacko. Aside from that he was poor, which is a shame as I really like him as a player and normally he adds a lot to the side.

Mrs Miggins: I dont think anyone is complaining about getting the point, we''re just saying we didn''t deserve it and we didn''t play well, but i''ll happily take that. If you thought Hoolahan was superb you''re on a different wavelength to me though, I thought he was absolutely awful except the assist and a lovely ball through to Moro for the 2nd - he didnt track back, he constantly gave the ball away and was generally pretty poor, by far our worst performance imo.

I totally agree with Aggy. We were incredibly lucky to walk out with a point (according to the Wolves fans the last goal was onside but I had a crap view and haven''t seen any replays yet) but regardless of that, we were very poor tonight and torn apart at times by a pretty awful Wolves team. Holt and Moro didnt look interested, Hooly got the assist for Surman and played Moro (Not Tierney Aggy) in to set up the 2nd but apart from that did nothing except give the ball away, Surman actually looked OK for me tonight, Crofts didn''t give Naughton much protection and kept drifting into the middle of the pitch leaving Naughton exposed vs a very good Jarvis. Fox looked decent but lacked defensively and I thought the back 4 did OK considering it was like the Alamo for most of the 2nd half. Naughton got ripped to shreds but wasn''t helped out enough but both the goals were poor defending. Thought R. Martin was probably MOTM for me. First 25/30mins we were sublime and had we kept that up we''d have won it 3 or 4 nil but we suddenly seemed to want to defend on our own six yard box and we were pretty terrible for the last hour or so. The key point for me, as Aggy mentioned is we didnt win any 2nd balls and we got beaten in the air constantly. I thought the ref had a shocker and there looked to be at least 1 clear handball and good shouts for a couple more but im yet to see the replays.

I was at the game sat right near the corner and I missed it so it must have been subtle. Morison was absolute garbage tonight, he couldn''t be bothered to chase anything and only came to life for short 5minute bursts (more so after Simeon came on, that seemed to ignite him a bit) - on the whole it''s comfortably the worst game Moro has had for us.

Who cares? We all know full well Wolves fans in general are tossers. I was there tonight and the ground was full of suitably chavvy black country morons.

So we just beat the Giants. Fortunately results have gone our way and it means that if the Browns can beat Arizona (big IF there) then we don''t drop out of the top 5 draft spots which keeps us on track for an elite QB (hopefully RG3, Id take him over Luck to be honest). How do you like your chances tomorrow on MNF? Did you see the Packers game? WOW. I''m so pleased for Romeo Crenell making the most of his shot as a Head Coach. Means you still have a shot at Home field advantage if the packers lose out too doesn''t it? (I think it''s highly unlikely the Packers lose out though!!)

I dont understand why people still use IE - Firefox is better and Google Chrome is far better and faster than both of them!!

I didn''t think there was a problem with it tbh, I like Holloway and he always comes across as a genuinely nice guy and I just thought he was being honest, rather than trying to portray an image.

The ref puts himself in that position, knowing he will get abuse from the stands pretty often. He chooses to do that, he gets paid to do that, and he puts his performance in the national spotlight every week, knowing full well it will be examined and re-examined on MOTD. Im sorry, but that handball was such a blatantly obvious decision to anyone who has got eyes, and you''re saying after somehow being the only person in the ground not to see it - that people shouldn''t chant "you''re not fit to referee" at him??? (the least offensive of the chants - weird one to get worked up over by the way OP)... Do you really think he was fit to referee on yesterday''s showing? It''s not like we''re maliciously telling him to go jump off a bridge or anything, he''s being called out on a poor performance... He puts himself in the spotlight, and he knows that if he performs badly he will be told so. He did and he was, end of story.