yoda 0 Posted September 24, 2013 Not even on the bench tonight , what has the man got to do to get a game ? crazy ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smooth 114 Posted September 24, 2013 Request to go on loan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Messiah 0 Posted September 24, 2013 Leave, because he''s not good enough... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted September 24, 2013 I''m still amazed how a player can go from being our 3rd best player to suddenly not good enough over a summer break.I think his lack of opportunities speaks far more of Hughton than it does of Fox''s ability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billabong 0 Posted September 24, 2013 Fox is still the best ball player at the club, he hardly gives the ball away either...unlike many!Some games have cried out for Fox but he obviously isn''t in Hoots defensive/negative game plan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarclayCanary (Former HDDH) 0 Posted September 24, 2013 He was in the youth game yesterday...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,502 Posted September 24, 2013 Fox can pass the ball.However, he cannot tackle, head, shoot, intercept or dribble. And he has no pace.How many Premiership players are that limited? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*** 0 Posted September 24, 2013 [quote user="Mr Brownstone"]I''m still amazed how a player can go from being our 3rd best player to suddenly not good enough over a summer break. I think his lack of opportunities speaks far more of Hughton than it does of Fox''s ability.[/quote] Huzzah! [Y] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the bristol nest 0 Posted September 24, 2013 He cannot pass, tackle, remain continent or speak English anymore. I am chuckling at the idea that Fox is suddenly not good enough. Says it all really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacko 0 Posted September 24, 2013 I like Fox. His passing ability is there for all to see. However, I think it is totally unfair to say that his exclusion is a sign of Hughton''s tactical shortcomings as a manager. It is worth noting that under Lambert, Fox only started 2 of the final 6 games of that season. They were defeats against Man City (6-1) and Liverpool (3-0). I am not in anyway saying David Fox was solely responsible for those results. However, it does show that Lambert was already moving in a different direction himself - generally preferring Jonny Howson over him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReadingCanary 0 Posted September 24, 2013 How would you fit Fox into our starting 11 in StokeJust wondering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted September 24, 2013 That''s just not true is it Ron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,502 Posted September 24, 2013 Which part? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warren Hill 0 Posted September 24, 2013 Fox isn''t mobile enough to play centrally in our midfield. He can''t play anywhere else. The end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted September 24, 2013 Most of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joanna Grey 0 Posted September 24, 2013 Ron is spot on, his all round abilities are just not good enough for a Premiership team nowadays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,502 Posted September 24, 2013 Specifically Mr.B.? Remember, I''m talking about Premiership standard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legend Iwan 30 Posted September 24, 2013 Real shame all he can do is pass the ball, hey, Ron?Bet you must''ve hated when he just passed the ball to Jackson at Portsmouth.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1caGKNls7Ks(Someone will have to make that into a clickable link as i''m using a Mac - thanks whoever does) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,671 Posted September 24, 2013 I think Fox could still be a very good midfielder in the Prem, with the right partner alongside him. If we have that partner to accomodate him is another question.Surprised he doesn''t get a look-in on a cup game. It''s a shame. Not trying in training maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,502 Posted September 24, 2013 "Real shame all he can do is pass the ball, hey, Ron? Bet you must''ve hated when he just passed the ball to Jackson at Portsmouth. "Yes, it is a shame that''s all he can do.Why on Earth would you assume that I would hate? the fact that Fox is capable of a good pass? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted September 24, 2013 No one is saying he''s Steven Gerrard, but to say he can''t shoot, intercept, tackle, dribble etc is just wrong. Some of those things aren''t the strongest aspects of his game for sure, but then again we have players playing Premier League football week in week out that can''t pass the ball more than 10 yards.We don''t have the luxury of buying complete midfielders, it''s all about balance.Personally, when I see tonight''s team sheet and see Johnson and Tettey playing together in CM my heart sinks. I''d much rather see one of those slots filled by a proper footballer who has some physical limitations, than I would see 2 athletes with footballing limitations.I''m not saying he should be the first name on the team sheet every week but there are situations where his ability on the ball would be a huge benefit to us, in my opinion Hull away was one of those situations, and possibly Saturday too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
? 20 Posted September 24, 2013 He did a damn sight more than just pass the ball in our first season back in the Premier. If he couldn''t tackle, head, and all the rest, he''d not have come third in POTS - in a very good season.Some of you must have very short memories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoda 0 Posted September 24, 2013 As has been mentioned it''s all about a balance it''s all very well having players who can break up play all day long but somewhere along the line the forwards need that killer pass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hogesar 9,671 Posted September 24, 2013 He doesn''t have the physical stature to be a hard-tackling battler - but that''s not what you put him in the team for. He sits in front of the back four and distributes. Someone else does the hard-tackling.He can shoot, pass, and dribble unlike the comments above. Like someone said, he came 3rd POTS for a reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellow Wal 314 Posted September 24, 2013 Perhaps he came third in POTS for the same reason as Lee Croft won it.If he was as good as so many people seem to think why are we not getting any enquiries from other Premiership teams for his services? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted September 24, 2013 You''re right. He''s rubbish. Send him back to Colchester. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,502 Posted September 24, 2013 I can''t remember him having a decent shot (how many goals has he scored?), & I don''t remember him dribbling past players - even in the Championship.I have never questioned his passing ability.To play in front of the back four you need to have strength. One thing I do remember is him being easily knocked off the ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billabong 0 Posted September 24, 2013 Unfortunately not a single player at the club is the ''complete player''It would be great if all 25 players could pass, graft, hold the ball up, shoot, defend, create, long ball, short ball, have intelligence and have leadership qualities etc. etc.....Sure Fox has his short falls but at least he can pass the f@ckin ball! and make things happen, which is clearly missing week in, week out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can u sit down please 0 Posted September 24, 2013 Love it Ron. Let''s do the English thing and look at what he maybe can''t do rather than what he can''t.Are you on elf those that says Redmond doesn''t track back, tackle or win headers?Fox is the best passer at the club, used to put his foot in and always kept possession. I''d rather him than johnson and tettey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canaries Utd 0 Posted September 24, 2013 Oh FFS... another Fox thread. I love to comment negatively, but it''s interesting to see that more people have commented on Fox''s alround ability this time. The POTS argument is a poor one, I almost fell off my chair when his name was read out. People take it so personally, but his best and arguably his only attribute ''passing'' has lacked in the chances his had to prove himself under Lambert & Hughton. Please Norwich, get rid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites