deltic31 14 Posted December 20, 2012 Does anyone else think that the organisation of this is c r a p. People trying to get to the front get in the way of people that have been served. There''s a lot of pushing and shoving. If there was to be an emergency then I am sure that people would lose their lives in the ensuing chaos. Sort it out NCFC! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lets be aving you! 0 Posted December 20, 2012 Just do what the Jarrold do: head out a full 5 minutes before the break. That way you only annoy people along your row. Get to see the crossbar challenge, too. Sorted! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bws Cat 0 Posted December 20, 2012 What about the refreshment in the sandpit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deltic31 14 Posted December 20, 2012 In the sandpit ? WTF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bws Cat 0 Posted December 20, 2012 Go the thread by "Frodo". Go to the second page and scroll to the middle. The reference will be there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marvin the martian 0 Posted December 20, 2012 We''re the sandpit, we''re the sandpit, we''re the sandpit over here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deltic31 14 Posted December 20, 2012 Just do what the Jarrold do: head out a full 5 minutes before the break. That way you only annoy people along your row.Get to see the crossbar challenge, too. Sorted!I never get up until the whistle sounds for the end of the half. I go to watch the game not the back of someone''s head in a queue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howson is now! 0 Posted December 20, 2012 [quote user="deltic31"]Just do what the Jarrold do: head out a full 5 minutes before the break. That way you only annoy people along your row.Get to see the crossbar challenge, too. Sorted! I never get up until the whistle sounds for the end of the half. I go to watch the game not the back of someone''s head in a queue.[/quote]Then don''t queue up then. Take something along in your bag to eat or drink at half time. You think it''s a pain in The Barclay? You should''ve seen the absolute shambles at Craven Cottage. Considering they have a window of 25 minutes (give or take) to serve over a thousand people between about 20 of them, I think they do a pretty damn good job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deltic31 14 Posted December 20, 2012 I have been to many away grounds that employ a barrier system so that there is a definite queue and they are much quicker than the shambles that is the Barclay. I have been to Craven Cottage last season and thought that it was not too bad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lets be aving you! 0 Posted December 20, 2012 Just make sure not get any sand in your food. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howson is now! 0 Posted December 20, 2012 Maybe it was just this year that was a major ball@che then as it was the height of summer and we were getting thumped. Haha. I agree that there are some better organised grounds but it does depend on what fans are there on any given day. Wigan have the barriers but on that particular day our away fans decided to duck under and climb over wherever they could to try and get a beer. I guess it''s just always going to be a pain when you have that many people trying to get served by that few. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lets be aving you! 0 Posted December 20, 2012 "Just make sure not get any sand in your food." ... not to get any ... Blast that prestroperus grammer checkker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surfbird 1 Posted December 20, 2012 The trouble is Deltic 31 that when Chase built the Barclay stand the upper section was designed for the away side fans and did not have such good facilities as the lower which was for home supporters.However opposing fans were chucking stuff onto Home fans down below and so the away area was moved elsewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo118 0 Posted December 20, 2012 [quote user="deltic31"]Does anyone else think that the organisation of this is c r a p. People trying to get to the front get in the way of people that have been served. There''s a lot of pushing and shoving. If there was to be an emergency then I am sure that people would lose their lives in the ensuing chaos. Sort it out NCFC![/quote] Not bothered. Take my own. I think it is pretty poor to have just one hand drier in the toilets for several hundred people. Surely this must contravene some health requirements? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Yellow 2 Posted December 20, 2012 That is exactly right Surfbird.With out stirring it up, but Mr Chase did not have a great record on ground development design. Twas he that decided the City Stand was plenty big enough. I understand that it would have been smaller than that until Mr Jones got an increased capacity.My seat is in the Upper Barclay and the conditions for access to facilities is an absolute disgrace and a potential danger. I seem to recall Mr McNally is aware of these conditions and that of the N&P stand and will be trying to improve where possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pete_norw 0 Posted December 20, 2012 [quote user="Bury Yellow"]That is exactly right Surfbird. With out stirring it up, but Mr Chase did not have a great record on ground development design. Twas he that decided the City Stand was plenty big enough. I understand that it would have been smaller than that until Mr Jones got an increased capacity. My seat is in the Upper Barclay and the conditions for access to facilities is an absolute disgrace and a potential danger. I seem to recall Mr McNally is aware of these conditions and that of the N&P stand and will be trying to improve where possible.[/quote]Not saying we should have them ,but what do people think about having vending machines dotted about, with a steward on hand of coarse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Yellow 2 Posted December 20, 2012 Pete, as we know, the main problem is the narrow space in that area. In most away grounds I have visited there is at the very least twice the depth of area.I feel sorry for the staff at half time. Too many people crammed in too little space. I am one of the biggest critics of the stupid over zealous H & S regime we have suffered in this country but there is a real problem here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,246 Posted December 20, 2012 [quote user="Surfbird"]The trouble is Deltic 31 that when Chase built the Barclay stand the upper section was designed for the away side fans and did not have such good facilities as the lower which was for home supporters. However opposing fans were chucking stuff onto Home fans down below and so the away area was moved elsewhere.[/quote]Apart from the upper Barclay being used for a cup game v Coventry i don''t think it was ever used for visiting fans on any other occassion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIL 1010 5,246 Posted December 20, 2012 [quote user="Bury Yellow"]That is exactly right Surfbird. With out stirring it up, but Mr Chase did not have a great record on ground development design. Twas he that decided the City Stand was plenty big enough. I understand that it would have been smaller than that until Mr Jones got an increased capacity. [/quote]The fire that brought about the building of the current City Stand was under Sir Arthur South not Robert Chase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bury Yellow 2 Posted December 20, 2012 A couple points Til, unless my old very old grey matter is playing games a) Spurs supporters were housed in the Upper Barclay and various matter was thrown on our supporters below and b) Robert Chase was either Chairman and Jones Vice Chairman when the final decision as to the size was made or I really am going round the twist as Mrs BY has insisted for many moons:-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YankeeCanary 0 Posted December 20, 2012 [quote user="TIL 1010"][quote user="Bury Yellow"]That is exactly right Surfbird. With out stirring it up, but Mr Chase did not have a great record on ground development design. Twas he that decided the City Stand was plenty big enough. I understand that it would have been smaller than that until Mr Jones got an increased capacity. [/quote]The fire that brought about the building of the current City Stand was under Sir Arthur South not Robert Chase. [/quote] Poor Sir Arthur. He must have had a hot bum. Chase would have never been able to cope with the heat. Now, seriously folks, you need to take a page out of your forefathers customs. They knew and understood if you were interested in food, drink and hygiene then you didn''t go to a football match for under a couple of hours to seek them. What a bunch of complainers. What would you do if war and rationiong came to your doorstep? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,572 Posted December 20, 2012 Wasn''t the eventual chosen construction of the Jarrold, the ''frugal'' option? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crafty Canary 547 Posted December 20, 2012 The cost of catering at grounds these days is a rip-off. I prefer to use off-ground providers. Yankee is right (I can''t quite believe I''ve written that) that you fdon''t go to football for an epicurian experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YankeeCanary 0 Posted December 20, 2012 [quote user="Real Dr Crafty BSc PhD DipEM "]The cost of catering at grounds these days is a rip-off. I prefer to use off-ground providers. Yankee is right (I can''t quite believe I''ve written that) that you fdon''t go to football for an epicurian experience.[/quote] Perhaps you should pay attention to me more often, Doctor, and you will be able to put some more letters at the end of your name ( without commas, of course ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 6,386 Posted December 20, 2012 [quote user="Mello Yello"]Wasn''t the eventual chosen construction of the Jarrold, the ''frugal'' option? [/quote] No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRock 192 Posted December 20, 2012 Go to Morrisons before the game. More choice and cheaper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mello Yello 2,572 Posted December 20, 2012 [quote user="PurpleCanary"][quote user="Mello Yello"]Wasn''t the eventual chosen construction of the Jarrold, the ''frugal'' option? [/quote] No.[/quote]I''m pretty sure that one of the ''design options'' had a lot more seats?.......But the ''less seats'' option, was (after those archaeologists had finished prodding around where the foundations were to be laid) was then rubber-stamped......and built by Carters..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PurpleCanary 6,386 Posted December 21, 2012 [quote user="Mello Yello"][quote user="PurpleCanary"] [quote user="Mello Yello"]Wasn''t the eventual chosen construction of the Jarrold, the ''frugal'' option? [/quote] No.[/quote]I''m pretty sure that one of the ''design options'' had a lot more seats?.......But the ''less seats'' option, was (after those archaeologists had finished prodding around where the foundations were to be laid) was then rubber-stamped......and built by Carters..... [/quote] One design was for more, but one was for less. The board gave themselves three options, of roughly staying at 4,000, which by your definition would be the frugal option, doubling to 8,000, or trebling to 12,000. They rejected the frugal option, and the most expensive option, and went for the middle course of doubling. And a very sensible decison it was too; we couldn''t have afforded to treble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webbo118 0 Posted December 21, 2012 [quote user="TheRock"]Go to Morrisons before the game. More choice and cheaper. [/quote]Or even take some food and drink with you when you leave the house. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites