Dean Coneys boots 1,400 Posted August 19, 2012 Could it be that the players were making a point? That CH demanded the negative one man up front nonsense and that the lads seriously wanted to make it clear it is not how they play? That after Mr Tough they have taken power and are dictating the terms to Mr Softy? Just a thought... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorkshire Canary 118 Posted August 19, 2012 If is was then it would amount to mutiny which is even more of a worry. i doubt this is the case though, more the players we have did not match the tactics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,188 Posted August 19, 2012 The players were just poorly prepared (by three highly paid coaches) in every possible way imaginable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonzey 0 Posted August 19, 2012 It''s a one off freak result, I''m betting on us to win the next game. And finish above Fulham at the end of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kings Man 0 Posted August 19, 2012 I said it was a freak result myself after the match, but the worrying thing is I don''t know if it was or not. I''m hoping the former, but fear its the latter.If this wasn''t, I can''t see on that performance where we will get a win, at least until November.The defence has got worse, despite Turner, but so has the attack - they are collecively and individually short on confidence - largely on a pre-season without goals or many victories. The team looked best going forward - I know this is based on something like a total of 10 minutes in the match, but just trying to defend they didn''t believe they could hold out. In fact the way we got cut apart felt just like last year''s two nil opening period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redders Right Foot 22 Posted August 19, 2012 Here''s another possible explanation, the players come on the forums to see what people see, see that a majority of posters expect us to go down, and get disheartened, and couldn''t play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadstairsR 2,188 Posted August 19, 2012 [quote user="Across The Pond Yellow"]Here''s another possible explanation, the players come on the forums to see what people see, see that a majority of posters expect us to go down, and get disheartened, and couldn''t play.[/quote] I fail to agree with that. The majority of posters have been consistently positive, including me. I''m not so sure now though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan Easter 0 Posted August 19, 2012 They are payed to play and play they should there was enough fuss made about Holt so I hope that was not the case! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZLF 274 Posted August 19, 2012 the negative one man up front nonsense it was the same negative one up front that PL used successfully last year playing attacking enterprising football gaining us a good number of points away from home.Its not the formation that is to blame. Just as the 442 england use is not flawed but its the player application that means we dont progress beyond the quarter finals in major competition the problem yesterday was inept performances. Yesterday we conceeded 3 goals with 4-5-1 and 2 with 442, which was only played for 32 minutes. Both shots on target came with 4-5-1, meaning both formations were equally poor.It did seem that the tactics were to sit far too deep, from the kick off pilkington and surman were behind their full backs too often and look at the last three goals, the distance between howson johnson and the back 4 was insufficient, meaning our defence has too little time to react and fulham have time and space to move the ball. We have to step up the pitch and defend as a team. And apply ourselves better. Do I think the players were protesting? No, it just seemed inept. If it a player rebellion already they all deserveto be sacked - the players that is - such petulance can not be tolerated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Brownstone 0 Posted August 19, 2012 Agreed Zip. We sat too deep and consequently Holt was isolated and we had no outlet to relieve pressure or build pressure ourselves. The thing that concerned me most is we didn''t seem to learn from our mistakes. Take the first goal for example, there had been numerous warnings before that happened with diagonal balls played in being both fullbacks before Duff finally broke the deadlock, that seemed to lead to the back 4 becomming stretched and leaving huge gaps for Fulham to pick us off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barclay seats 4849 0 Posted August 19, 2012 [quote user="Across The Pond Yellow"]Here''s another possible explanation, the players come on the forums to see what people see, see that a majority of posters expect us to go down, and get disheartened, and couldn''t play.[/quote]T**T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redders Right Foot 22 Posted August 19, 2012 [quote user="barclay seats 48 49 "][quote user="Across The Pond Yellow"]Here''s another possible explanation, the players come on the forums to see what people see, see that a majority of posters expect us to go down, and get disheartened, and couldn''t play.[/quote]T**T[/quote]that''s the way to do it! use your words!infantile ignoramus.see, if you''re much more creative, it''s a lot better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bws Cat 0 Posted August 19, 2012 I don''t think so. I wouldn''t just sabotage my work because I don''t like where my boss put my desk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImDrunky 0 Posted August 19, 2012 No point speculating what''s going on behind close doors, but I wouldn''t have thought that''s what they were doing. But I think we all can agree on that formation don''t work, and I just be wishing all week we will go back to how we used to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Morriss 69 Posted August 19, 2012 [quote user="Jonzey"]It''s a one off freak result, I''m betting on us to win the next game. And finish above Fulham at the end of the season.[/quote]Make no bones about it this was no freak result. You get what you deserve in this game. We played the same v Borussia, that should have been 5-0 but for poor finishing. You replicate the tactics, team formation and performance against a Prem team and you get hammered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Chops 7 Posted August 19, 2012 [quote user="Dean Coneys boots"]Could it be that the players were making a point? That CH demanded the negative one man up front nonsense and that the lads seriously wanted to make it clear it is not how they play? That after Mr Tough they have taken power and are dictating the terms to Mr Softy? Just a thought...[/quote]"Hello, Nail? I weren''t at the game today Nail, but that sound like mootiny Nail. Has that Hooton lost the dressin'' room? Mootiny for Hooton, tha''s what I heard Nail. That wouldn''t a happened under Lambert Nail, would it? Wass goin'' on, d''you reckon? I heard that was to do with shaggin'', Nail." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites