New Manager needed now

[Ivan Easter 0]

New manager needed but I fear it will cost us too much money. What a shame and what a shambles Norwich City is at the moment.

[The Great Wall Of Tettey 0]

[quote user="Eggy"]New manager needed but I fear it will cost us too much money. What a shame and what a shambles Norwich City is at the moment.
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what are you on about

roeder has not had enough money to buy a full squad, and were now talking about how david bell is a quality player !

roeders perminant signingers..........

bell-looks a class act

hoolahan- was awsome at blackpool, needs time to get back to how he was

clingan-looks to be bossing midfield

hes tried to get other players in but we just dont have the funds

hes a good manager !

[O.T.B.C 1]

I thought GR was ok today, brought back Bertrand who looked good, Bell was good on left, Croft ok on right, but looked dead on his feet before his subbing. He can''t help the stupidity of Rusty can he? They did look a bit helpless and confused when Rusty went, but there is only so much that GR can do on the sidelines.

 

[WeAreYellows49 0]

I don''t think he''s a good manager and IMO is tactically naive at times.  He constantly plays players out of position, and makes the oddest substitutions ever.

He may have bought some good players in, but it''s more about how he uses those players to their maximum in their right positions that matters, also playing the same team constantly and not keep chopping and changing.

Whilst i''m at it, how about bringing in loan players, paying their wages and never playing them, wasting money is not a good thing IMO.

[The Great Wall Of Tettey 0]

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I thought GR was ok today, brought back Bertrand who looked good, Bell was good on left, Croft ok on right, but looked dead on his feet before his subbing. He can''t help the stupidity of Rusty can he? They did look a bit helpless and confused when Rusty went, but there is only so much that GR can do on the sidelines.

 

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i think hes done a great job with what hes had.

the permanant signings look good.

and signing somebody like leroy lita, even on loan is a good signing.

some of his decicisons he makes during the game are questionable, but we do not see what goes on  at colney, and whos not up to full fitness !

[SnakepitCanary 0]

FAO Bring Back Nielson.

Roeder hasn''t had enough money! The reasons why he has to resort to loan signings is because the wage budget had to be tightened, we had to get rid of the dead wood and replace them with adequate numbers and prices for quality permanent players are high.

I realise loan players aren''t free, but they are alot cheaper when you take into count signing on fee''s, appearance bonuses and performance bonus. For loan players you might not pay the whole wage, you can bring in quality players even with a tight budget, i.e. Kennedy, Lita and Bertrand, and paying for them to be at Dunston Hall for the year is cheaper then spending £500,000 on an average player. I understand there are bargains to be had but I think it''s the safest and cheapest way of replacing quantity with quality. Board should go defiently for the mistakes they have made, so should Roeder. Not for his transfer dealings, but his tactical and motivational skills are clearly not upto scratch. The only way this club will go forward is with new owners. Even with Mourinho as manager, We wouldn''t progress. You can''t go forward without money being pumped into the club. You have to be competitive with other clubs money wise to be able to bring in the best players available.

Board out, enough is enough.

[newyorkcanary 14]

Roeder is absolutely superb at spotting talent.  That''s why Wenger wanted Roeder to run his academy.  But I have to say it seems as if he is a horrible tactical manager.  The constant shuffling of lineups, the undermining of players in public (which Hoolahan hasn''t recovered from, if you ask me) and the fact that we always seem to start each game down one leads me to believe he doesn''t properly prepare his squad come matchday.  I suppose you could file Lupoli with Hoolahan as someone who started out so wonderfully, then, in Lupoli''s case it seems, in training, he did something to put himself in the doghouse.  Now we don''t know if Lupoli can play at the same time as Lita, given their size, but something happened to take the fire out of Lupoli''s belly, and I''d have to say it has to be Roeder. 

Look at his record of succeeding his first year on the job and then bottling it the second.  Both West Ham and Newcastle fit the bill, and make whatever excuses you want regarding funds, but if we finish 18th this year, it would be an abject failure.  We''re one of the few clubs where we would be better off with Roeder as a director of football, bringing in the talent and having someone who actually knows what to do with the talent running training and matches.  The Wolves result looks more and more like a fluke than anythign--- Wolves'' defense didn''t get off the bus.  Nothing Roeder has said or done has given me any real confidence in his ability to move us into the top half of the table.  Games like today where we leave 2 points on the table because of undisciplined bs like what Russell pulled (for the 2nd time no less!) have to be traced back to the gaffer.  It''s inexcusable, and for the wonderful talent Roeder has brought in both on loans and permanents, there is no way we should be where we are.  Look at ''arry at Spurs and tell me a proper manager doesn''t make a difference if the talent is there.  We''re no Spurs, of course, but our roster (until January, at least) should be a top half of the table club, and I blame Roeder for the fact that we are not. 

 

[SnakepitCanary 0]

[quote user="newyorkcanary"]

Roeder is absolutely superb at spotting talent.  That''s why Wenger wanted Roeder to run his academy.  But I have to say it seems as if he is a horrible tactical manager.  The constant shuffling of lineups, the undermining of players in public (which Hoolahan hasn''t recovered from, if you ask me) and the fact that we always seem to start each game down one leads me to believe he doesn''t properly prepare his squad come matchday.  I suppose you could file Lupoli with Hoolahan as someone who started out so wonderfully, then, in Lupoli''s case it seems, in training, he did something to put himself in the doghouse.  Now we don''t know if Lupoli can play at the same time as Lita, given their size, but something happened to take the fire out of Lupoli''s belly, and I''d have to say it has to be Roeder. 

Look at his record of succeeding his first year on the job and then bottling it the second.  Both West Ham and Newcastle fit the bill, and make whatever excuses you want regarding funds, but if we finish 18th this year, it would be an abject failure.  We''re one of the few clubs where we would be better off with Roeder as a director of football, bringing in the talent and having someone who actually knows what to do with the talent running training and matches.  The Wolves result looks more and more like a fluke than anythign--- Wolves'' defense didn''t get off the bus.  Nothing Roeder has said or done has given me any real confidence in his ability to move us into the top half of the table.  Games like today where we leave 2 points on the table because of undisciplined bs like what Russell pulled (for the 2nd time no less!) have to be traced back to the gaffer.  It''s inexcusable, and for the wonderful talent Roeder has brought in both on loans and permanents, there is no way we should be where we are.  Look at ''arry at Spurs and tell me a proper manager doesn''t make a difference if the talent is there.  We''re no Spurs, of course, but our roster (until January, at least) should be a top half of the table club, and I blame Roeder for the fact that we are not. 

 

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Spot on NYC. I have to agree with you about all of that. Roeder knows a player when he sees one. Most of his signings to date have been good, and most of his permanent signings this season have done us well. I don''t think his man management skills are upto scratch either. Alot of players seem to be unhappy under him and he is always the one with the last say. That''s fine from a manager, got to show discipline. but his arrogance takes it''s toll. Just look at the Chadwick situation. Not rated at all by Roeder but Chadwick is doing brillant for MK Dons. I know he''s it''s League One but he was good when he was playing for us! I can understand that if they don''t do well in training, you won''t make it into the first team, but this is really going to effect the morale and confidence of those who aren''t getting picked. He should at least make sure that even though everyone isn''t getting a game, talk to them positvely and tell them why they aren''t getting a game. He just seems to be negative towards players.

[Thecanaryfan 0]

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[quote user="Eggy"]New manager needed but I fear it will cost us too much money. What a shame and what a shambles Norwich City is at the moment.
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what are you on about

roeder has not had enough money to buy a full squad, and were now talking about how david bell is a quality player !

roeders perminant signingers..........

bell-looks a class act

hoolahan- was awsome at blackpool, needs time to get back to how he was

clingan-looks to be bossing midfield

hes tried to get other players in but we just dont have the funds

hes a good manager !

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Hoolahan cant dribble, he cant cross and he cant score, all the time in the universe wont change that. You''re right about Cligan and Bell though. Apart from Hoolahan and Pattison Roeders permanents have been good. I hope he signs Kennedy on a permanent, at last a CB that chips in with goals!!!

Signing quality players doesnt make a good manager!!!

[Blofield Canary 12]

Roeder is without question one of the worst managers we have ever had, What budget he has had this season has been wasted on some very average loan players, half of which don''t get near the firstteam.

Stick with Roader and its straight down to Division 1

[Canary Pirate 0]

You''ve answered your own question. We can not afford one, end of !

[The Great Wall Of Tettey 0]

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[quote user="Eggy"]New manager needed but I fear it will cost us too much money. What a shame and what a shambles Norwich City is at the moment.
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what are you on about

roeder has not had enough money to buy a full squad, and were now talking about how david bell is a quality player !

roeders perminant signingers..........

bell-looks a class act

hoolahan- was awsome at blackpool, needs time to get back to how he was

clingan-looks to be bossing midfield

hes tried to get other players in but we just dont have the funds

hes a good manager !

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Hoolahan cant dribble, he cant cross and he cant score, all the time in the universe wont change that. You''re right about Cligan and Bell though. Apart from Hoolahan and Pattison Roeders permanents have been good. I hope he signs Kennedy on a permanent, at last a CB that chips in with goals!!!

Signing quality players doesnt make a good manager!!!

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if you cant get good signings, your not going to have a brilliant side !!

hoolahan was on fire at blackpool, it takes time !

[cuckoo in the nest 0]

Yes you have to ask what Barnsley, Blackpool  and Bristol City to name but 3 have got what we haven''t -it''s not more money -it''s a half decent manager

[Arthur Whittle 0]

Roeder has had to assemble more or less a brand new squad on a pathetic budget. Roeders not the problem, look higher up!

[Ivan Easter 0]

I agree with that. If we have the "Quality" players that some people say we have and as some people say "Roeder is a good manager"Why are we near the foot of the table ? money is not the only problem.

[First Wizard 0]

Even with money, even bags of it, Roeder has ducked up wherever he''s been, don''t let ''lack of cash'' blind you to that fact!

[Dr. Bunsen 0]

get delia out get some money in and then see what happens when we can actually spend a bit of money on the squad!!!

delia needs to go NOW

[bringbackterraces 0]

We need a new board because they have gone stale and haven''t or don''t want to invest more inot the club!

 

With Glen Roeder in charge we''ll at best just scrape relegation this season!

 

YES their is a cash shortage but he cannot keep using that as a get out card. Pattison whos good for nothing more than a squad player cost £500K, Eagle whos never going to make it was resigned, Koroma was a waste of time cause he isn''t good enough, we have bid £2Million for a number of players in the last 2 years and how many clubs have got money in this League? - about 5-6 at the most!

 

Roeder has favourites, why hasn''t Lupoli been given another chance afterall hes one of our top scorers, why didn''t Chadwick have a chance this season particularly after looking one of our best players in pre season, why was our best attacking force Hucks released, playing inept loanees like Gibbs, Henry and playing Omarzussi when he clearly isn''t as good as Croft.

 

Yesterdays game against a Preston side who offered no attacking structure for most of the game just playing hit and hope, should of been a home banker yet Preston looked more likely to win than us at the end. The teams confidence has gone and this has gone through most of the few good players we had!

 

Roeder will pass the buck till the end which I hope is soon!

[Barclay_Boy 0]

[quote user="Eggy"]New manager needed but I fear it will cost us too much money. What a shame and what a shambles Norwich City is at the moment.
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more importantly New Board (with some money) needed.

[Blofield Canary 12]

I live in hope that new investors with money are forthcoming. I have an even bigger hope that Roeder is not still around to spend any of it. What a disaster that would be. Imagine getting some decent money and allowing Roeder to waste it. I wouldn''t trust him to "spend a penny"

[Rethinking the future 0]

In order to replace Roeder, it will cost approx £1m.

I base this estimate on the fact it cost £600K to replace Worthy who was on a 1 year rolling contract whereas Roeder has over 18 months left on his contract.

If a new owner comes in, they will probably want to bring in their own manager which effectively means it is a waste of money sacking Roeder now. History also indicates that teams that keep their manager the longest also perform best over that same time period.

Is it worth paying him off or are we better to to keep him?