Relegation then Administration

[Green and Yellow 0]

Relegation then Administration, who believed that this is now a serious possibility?.

[WeAreYellows49 0]

Sadly I do, with no hope of new players in January unless we sell assets, no new investment, only getting the odd win is relegation material to me.

We need to get a string of 6 or so wins and that is more rare than rocking horse s**t.  Also a miracle investor from somewhere so we can buy more players when the loans go back.

[chicken 0]

I am not so sure. I think that when you look at it we will be ok. Maybe not a lot better than ok but I think that is about right.Bertrand is likely to stay and if he doesnt we have Drury. Doc and Stef.What is the situation with the youngsters at Luton? Can we recall them if needed? It may get a bit shady at times but I think we have the players to stay safe. Eagle is still around. And I am sure there are a couple of other youngsters from the accademy aged 16+ that can make the step up if needs be.I am certainly not going to concede defeat this easily.

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There are 6 or 8 really dire teams in this league - Without confidence we could be sucked in.  But I think we''ll get our best 11 out there for a run of a  few games this season, and win enough to get us safe before the final game.

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[quote user="Titanic"]Relegation then Administration, who believed that this is now a serious possibility?.[/quote]

Absolutely...but I suspect Peter Cullum will step in at the last moment to pick up his bargain...and duly humiliate Smith.

It''s almost worth going down for.

[The Fish Seller 0]

[quote user="blahblahblah"]There are 6 or 8 really dire teams in this league - .[/quote]This is correct but there are also twenty three other teams in this league whose fans would put Norwich amongst those ''6 or 8 really dire teams'' and based on performance can you argue we''re not?

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[quote user="The Prisoner"][quote user="blahblahblah"]There are 6 or 8 really dire teams in this league - .[/quote]

This is correct but there are also twenty three other teams in this league whose fans would put Norwich amongst those ''6 or 8 really dire teams'' and based on performance can you argue we''re not?
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Actually, I''d argue that we are one of the better teams on performance, but one of the worse teams on results.  On current results and news, I think it will be Donny, Forest and one of Watford, Charlton, or Southampton who drop.

[KeelansGlove 0]

I think its probably about 50/50 at the moment, without Lita who will score the goals to get us the wins we need. if we lose a couple of the loanees at xmas with no money to strengthen I think we are more likely than Watford Charlton or Southampton.

If we do survive , without new investment next season id say we would be certs for the drop

[Show Me What You Gooot! 0]

[quote user="Neil Cluckcaster"]

[quote user="Titanic"]Relegation then Administration, who believed that this is now a serious possibility?.[/quote]

Absolutely...but I suspect Peter Cullum will step in at the last moment to pick up his bargain...and duly humiliate Smith.

It''s almost worth going down for.

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Yep. Probably likely in the next 2-3 years (if we really don''t find anyone else suitable in the meantime)

If Harris has been given the "Norfolk Roots" criteria crap from Delia for out future investor/owner then theres only one man on that list he can speak to. That is unless Delia has opened up to the idea of having ANYONE own the club?

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[quote user="Paint Me Yellow"][quote user="Neil Cluckcaster"]

[quote user="Titanic"]Relegation then Administration, who believed that this is now a serious possibility?.[/quote]

Absolutely...but I suspect Peter Cullum will step in at the last moment to pick up his bargain...and duly humiliate Smith.

It''s almost worth going down for.

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Yep. Probably likely in the next 2-3 years (if we really don''t find anyone else suitable in the meantime)

If Harris has been given the "Norfolk Roots" criteria crap from Delia for out future investor/owner then theres only one man on that list he can speak to. That is unless Delia has opened up to the idea of having ANYONE own the club?

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According to Neil Doncasters'' article, there are no pre-conditions attached.

[Beauseant 0]

[quote user="blahblahblah"][quote user="Paint Me Yellow"][quote user="Neil Cluckcaster"]

[quote user="Titanic"]Relegation then Administration, who believed that this is now a serious possibility?.[/quote]

Absolutely...but I suspect Peter Cullum will step in at the last moment to pick up his bargain...and duly humiliate Smith.

It''s almost worth going down for.

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Yep. Probably likely in the next 2-3 years (if we really don''t find anyone else suitable in the meantime)

If Harris has been given the "Norfolk Roots" criteria crap from Delia for out future investor/owner then theres only one man on that list he can speak to. That is unless Delia has opened up to the idea of having ANYONE own the club?

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According to Neil Doncasters'' article, there are no pre-conditions attached.

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As it doesn''t fit Cluck''s agenda that will obviously be a "lie", Blah[:D]

[Here We Go 0]

 

We wont go donw and admin is a million miles away, people should jsut keep the faith instead of being a bunch of moaning idiots that just want to see the worse happen to are club, so they can say i told you so to the board.

[WeAreYellows49 0]

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We wont go donw and admin is a million miles away, people should jsut keep the faith instead of being a bunch of moaning idiots that just want to see the worse happen to are club, so they can say i told you so to the board.

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If you think the vast majority of the fans would want NCFC to be relegated and go into administration then you have to be delussional.

The other side of the coin is, we don''t get many more wins away or home, we get lots of draws and losses and we may end up in a relegation battle, it could happen.  We only need results to go against us with regard to other clubs, and if we are struggling too then the worst could happen. 

It almost happened last season, and IMHO we don''t look that much better off under GR than we did under PG.

[Coelho 0]

[quote user="Belaugh Yellow"]

 

We wont go donw and admin is a million miles away, people should jsut keep the faith instead of being a bunch of moaning idiots that just want to see the worse happen to are club, so they can say i told you so to the board.

[/quote]There are very few of us who genuinely want the worst to happen to this club. With debts of £18m and no money to spend on players, plus the very real possibility of Stef being out for the season, Sib and Lita going back to their parent clubs, plus Roeder''s growing arrogance and his career record for screwing things up in his second season, I''d say it''s rather presumptuous to say we won''t go down. And if we do go down, with much less TV money, dwindling attendances plus a smattering of players on Championship wages, would we be a million miles from administration then?I''m not a fervent Delia-outer who''s just looking for a stick to beat the board with, I''m just a fan with genuine concerns. I''d be quite happy for Delia and Michael to stay on as directors, but without fresh investment soon we are on a fast-track to the unthinkable.

[Lazza 0]

Not sure about administration but relegation is a real possibility.Leicester, Forest, Leeds, Man C, Sheff W etc all thought they were too good to drop 2 divisions. And of those only Man C bounced straight back out again which should be a BIG warning to the board.To be honest, I doubt the income in Div 1 is much less than it is in the Championship whereas the costs are a lot less. I hate to say this but maybe being relegated, selling off any players with any real value (are there any?) and rebuilding a squad with real desire at vastly reduced cost for a push back up the leagues might not be a such bad thing. I don''t want to see that happen, just saying that it might actually be a good thing in the long term.

[Yellow Rider 0]

[quote user="Belaugh Yellow"]

 

We wont go donw and admin is a million miles away, people should jsut keep the faith instead of being a bunch of moaning idiots that just want to see the worse happen to are club, so they can say i told you so to the board.

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You''re confident so please give your reasons.

I have heard that the club are ''losing £50k per week'' - now that may or may not be true but it certainly would''nt surprise me!  As someone else on this post as said there are plenty of reasons to be pessimistic what with tumbling gates, potentially three or so loanees going back in January and NO MONEY to spend on replacements. That coupled with Lita''s disappearance on December 8th and the growing rebellion and impotent atmosphere at Carrow Road, I would say we are ripe for administration. Might not be this month or even this season but the momentum is all heading one direction and that''s as sure as hell ain''t upwards!

[First Wizard 0]

[quote user="Titanic"]Relegation then Administration, who believed that this is now a serious possibility?.[/quote]

My balls foretold this weeks ago............its going to happen and nothing can stop it!

[Coelho 0]

[quote user="Lazza"]Not sure about administration but relegation is a real possibility.Leicester, Forest, Leeds, Man C, Sheff W etc all thought they were too good to drop 2 divisions. And of those only Man C bounced straight back out again which should be a BIG warning to the board.To be honest, I doubt the income in Div 1 is much less than it is in the Championship whereas the costs are a lot less. I hate to say this but maybe being relegated, selling off any players with any real value (are there any?) and rebuilding a squad with real desire at vastly reduced cost for a push back up the leagues might not be a such bad thing. I don''t want to see that happen, just saying that it might actually be a good thing in the long term.[/quote]That''s probably what Leeds and Forest thought, though. I think going down would be an absolute unmitigated disaster. Wouldn''t it be better to rebuild the squad in this division? I''d settle for finishing in 21st for two years running rather than get sucked down into League One. I fear we''d end up like Bradford.

[Show Me What You Gooot! 0]

[quote user="Belaugh Yellow"]

 

We wont go donw and admin is a million miles away, people should jsut keep the faith instead of being a bunch of moaning idiots that just want to see the worse happen to are club, so they can say i told you so to the board.

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Yeah, and Barack Obama won''t have an assassination attempt against him either....

[nutty nigel 7,902]

I don''t believe we would go into administration even if we were relegated. I hope I don''t have to find out though.

 

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[quote user="nutty nigel"]

I don''t believe we would go into administration even if we were relegated. I hope I don''t have to find out though.

 

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As we usually play "opposites" with your views Nutcakenobbynacks...that means we''re definately buggered then.....

Down and out just like most of the Deliarite Lalalanders on here.

[nutty nigel 7,902]

[quote user="Neil Cluckcaster"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

I don''t believe we would go into administration even if we were relegated. I hope I don''t have to find out though.

 

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As we usually play "opposites" with your views Nutcakenobbynacks...that means we''re definately buggered then.....

Down and out just like most of the Deliarite Lalalanders on here.

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Well, well, well! Before I was just too old you never talked to me... Suddenly, look who comes to old Grampa for a chat… wait!... Don’t go…. Where are you going?.. Come back... I''ll tell you about when we lost old Bly…. He was right under my nose the whole time…. He lives in my retirement home... His name is Lalaaarndoner…. How did I track him down?? … Good question.. On one of my frequent trips to the ground I noticed Lala wore sneakers, for sneaking.... My next clue came just last Tuesday at the AGM... We felt slighted by Roeders fan bashing and started home.... Lala said, ''I''ll catch up with you…..Ah , there''s an interesting story behind this…. In 1957 I remember it was... I got up in the morning and made myself a piece of toast... I set the toaster to three, medium brown….I couldn''t quite put my finger on it... There was something strange about the way he talked...  much more confused than usual….  and finally, Lala, unlike most retired people, has the world''s largest crock pot full of pigs fry on his table… Anyway, about my washtub... I just used it that morning to wash my turkey...which in those days was known as a walking bird... We''d always have walking bird on Boxing Day with all the trimmings: cranberries, zombie eyes, and sheep stuffed with chipolatas and honey…. Then we''d all watch football... which in those days was a mans game played by local farmers girls from good Norfolk stock….

Never mind, you wouldn''t understand… I''m going.... It''s cold and my head hurts…

[8]Maybe it''s because he''s Lalaaarrrndoner.... 

 

[gazzathegreat 0]

Well I don''t mind saying that I am worried, presented with evidence on the pitch that even now (after more than a few games now) we still are unsure of our best team and consequently don''t know either the best 11 personnel or what tactics are best for them to employ.

Thus we win one here, lost two there, scrape a draw and win/lose in lucky/unlucky fashion......So for me we will (with Lita or similar striker) just about escape relegation, though going on current form this season I am keeping my fingers crossed. I have not even thought about adding in other likely factors, such as losing a couple of players to injury for long periods of the season. Or having to sell Marshall, Croft, Bell or whoever.....

So, will we escape... who knows, we have to hope that either in the coming 10 games or so we gel as a team, find a pattern that suits and we can score more goals, instill confidence and then go away from home and hold our own and convert any chances into goals. In January we need to supplement our meagre squad with decent replacements and hope they all work.

And then there''s the stuff going on off the pitch, the sight of the Board asking the assembled shareholders for ideas for the way forward in the way of a strategy (answer to a question about what strategy the board had for the immediate future), doesn''t fill me with confidence, it fills me with dread first and anger second. Why have they left everything too late? Investing in new players, getting rid of failing managers, and now looking for investment.

Not looking good and I am no more optimistic about our survival then I was last season. Can only hope that something happens re investment before January to give us a fighting chance, and that we can start to see some confidence in the team on the pitch, allowing them to play football without fear, thus creating and scoring more goals.