barclay_canary 0 Posted July 29, 2008 Im curious to know what you guys and gals would put out as your starting 11 for the start of the season?? take a look at what we have already and the maybe players we think might sign soon. I wonder how similar you all wll be in your choices. I would Go for, Cureton Lupoli Hoolahan Fotheringham Clingan Croft Bertrand Shackell Stefanovic Otsemobor Marshall.Bench: Omuzusi, Russell, Martin, Chadwick, Amoebe(if we get him) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JG27 0 Posted July 29, 2008 [quote user="up_barc_canary"]Im curious to know what you guys and gals would put out as your starting 11 for the start of the season?? take a look at what we have already and the maybe players we think might sign soon. I wonder how similar you all wll be in your choices. I would Go for, Cureton Lupoli Hoolahan Fotheringham Clingan Croft Bertrand Shackell Stefanovic Otsemobor Marshall.Bench: Omuzusi, Russell, Martin, Chadwick, Amoebe(if we get him)[/quote]If we signed Ameobi, he would surely start instead of Cureton??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DOGGER 0 Posted July 29, 2008 Pretty much what i''m thinking by going with the squad we have, may change formation slightly and play hools behind the lone striker and have Bell on wing for away games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scrimmage 0 Posted July 29, 2008 Mine would be MarshallOtsemobor Stefanovic Shacks BertrandBell Clingan Fozzy Hoolahan Lupoli New big striker Subs: Koteles (if we get him), Cureton, Russel, Croft, Doc (when fit) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardhouse44 261 Posted July 29, 2008 [quote user="up_barc_canary"]Im curious to know what you guys and gals would put out as your starting 11 for the start of the season?? take a look at what we have already and the maybe players we think might sign soon. I wonder how similar you all wll be in your choices. I would Go for, Cureton Lupoli Hoolahan Fotheringham Clingan Croft Bertrand Shackell Stefanovic Otsemobor Marshall.Bench: Omuzusi, Russell, Martin, Chadwick, Amoebe(if we get him)[/quote] So you think we would sign Ameobe and then put him on the bench. If we sign him he will probably cost more than all the other signing put together and you think he''ll start on the bench. He would be the only target man at the club and you''d have him on the bench. I''m not in favour of signing they guy. Over priced and over rated but trust me if we get him he won''t be on the bench! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary_on_the Trent 0 Posted July 29, 2008 how did last night not tell you we need somebody fairly big up top?MarshallOmozusi, Kennedy, Stefanovic, BertrandBell, Clingan, Fotheringham, HoolahanCureton, new striker i really rate Lupoli but Cureton has looked sharp in pre-season and confident again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Bump 0 Posted July 29, 2008 I don''t like the idea of Marshall lone striker upfront. Why do we need two keepers for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lincs CR 0 Posted July 29, 2008 Based on what we have so far, would have to be... Cureton Lupoli Hoolahan Russell Fotheringham Bell Bertrand Stefanovic Omozusi Otsemobor Marshall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lincs CR 0 Posted July 29, 2008 Not sure why that post went wrong... 4 3 1 2 with Hoolahan in the CAM role would be my starting 11 :)Once we get a big solid striker such as Shola... then we can resort to 4 4 2 and whip in crosses from the flanks for Lupoli and SholaAt the minute... playing crosses in for headers is a no go with two short players so it needs to be threaded balls through and attacking runs from Hoolahan... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SAFU2007 0 Posted July 29, 2008 Ameobi Lupoli Hoolahan Fotheringham Clingan Bell Bertrand Kennedy Stefanovic Omozusi Marshall.I''m obviously relying on a striker that we don''t yet have, but whoever we get, Ameobi,Rasiak,Howard would automatically get in my 4-4-2 with Cureton as sub, or preferably sell him. Sorry to those who like him but I think he''s had more than enough time to prove himself, he does talk well but how many times can a striker be forgiven for missing the preverbial barn door? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Bates 9 Posted July 29, 2008 [quote user="SAFU2007"] Ameobi Lupoli Hoolahan Fotheringham Clingan Bell Bertrand Kennedy Stefanovic Omozusi Marshall.I''m obviously relying on a striker that we don''t yet have, but whoever we get, Ameobi,Rasiak,Howard would automatically get in my 4-4-2 with Cureton as sub, or preferably sell him. Sorry to those who like him but I think he''s had more than enough time to prove himself, he does talk well but how many times can a striker be forgiven for missing the preverbial barn door?[/quote]Thats y side id put out also... However i would play stefanovic on the left sided CB as he is left footed and Kennedy the other side cos he is right footed... Then i would play russel instead of fotheringham... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DOGGER 0 Posted July 29, 2008 No way Bell over Croft Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canary_on_the Trent 0 Posted July 29, 2008 [quote user="Dogger Slipraid"]No way Bell over Croft[/quote]what use is a winger who has no composure? can''t cross, pass or shoot when in the final third Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DOGGER 0 Posted July 29, 2008 [quote user="ncfc_chris"][quote user="Dogger Slipraid"]No way Bell over Croft[/quote]what use is a winger who has no composure? can''t cross, pass or shoot when in the final third[/quote]Rather have a player that has prem experience than a player who has div 1 experience Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Monkey 52 Posted July 29, 2008 [quote user="Dogger Slipraid"][quote user="ncfc_chris"][quote user="Dogger Slipraid"]No way Bell over Croft[/quote]what use is a winger who has no composure? can''t cross, pass or shoot when in the final third[/quote]Rather have a player that has prem experience than a player who has div 1 experience[/quote]So in our Prem season we should have bought Michael Ricketts instead of Dean Ashton? Serious question... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DOGGER 0 Posted July 29, 2008 [quote user="Evil Monkey"][quote user="Dogger Slipraid"][quote user="ncfc_chris"] [quote user="Dogger Slipraid"]No way Bell over Croft[/quote]what use is a winger who has no composure? can''t cross, pass or shoot when in the final third[/quote]Rather have a player that has prem experience than a player who has div 1 experience[/quote]So in our Prem season we should have bought Michael Ricketts instead of Dean Ashton? Serious question...[/quote]Yes[:P] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Monkey 52 Posted July 29, 2008 [quote user="Dogger Slipraid"]Yes[:P][/quote]That told me... [:P] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DOGGER 0 Posted July 29, 2008 I wanted a blowing raspberries smiley but there isn''t any!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Monkey 52 Posted July 29, 2008 I wish there was a "slap-hand-against-forehead" smiley, myself, would come in handy from time to time.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy_Bones 441 Posted July 29, 2008 [quote user="ncfc_chris"]how did last night not tell you we need somebody fairly big up top?[/quote]Simple really, I felt we were playing the wrong type of football for the players we had out.If you''re going to play long balls over the top then you really should have a target man, we weren''t so what''s the excuse for those type of balls being played constantly?WE DON''T NEED A TARGET MAN, we instead need to concentrate on playing passing football in the vein of teams like Arsenal, and in the manner that put us into Europe regularly in the 80''s/90''s (apart from the hassle over Heysel)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3canaries 0 Posted July 29, 2008 The Alternative Team.......... Martin Renton Lappin Pattison Chadwick Croft Drury Shackell Spillane Omozusi Nelson Subs: Marshall, Bell, Hoolahoop, Stefanavic, Clingan, Cureton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeelansGlove 0 Posted July 29, 2008 Err yes we do and may I remind you that we had probably the best one we ever had during our heyday in the 80s a certain Mr C Sutton ??.We have nobody to hold the ball up and bring other in , playing the way you suggest with our current squad would result in one thing relegation. thank got Roeder is the manager not you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert N. LiM 4,350 Posted July 29, 2008 4-4-1-1 MarshallSemmy Shackell Stefanovic DruryChadwick Clingan Fozzy Bertrand Hoolahan Mythical Massive Striker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Slob 0 Posted July 29, 2008 you must be taking the mick, playing drury and chadwick and otsemobor ahead of omuzusi MarshallOmuzusi Kennerdy Stefanovic BertrandBell Clingan Fozzy Hoolahan Lupoli Some big man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron obvious 1,502 Posted July 29, 2008 Croft has one huge advantage over Bell:he isn''t injured Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy_Bones 441 Posted July 29, 2008 [quote user="KeelansGlove"]Err yes we do and may I remind you that we had probably the best one we ever had during our heyday in the 80s a certain Mr C Sutton ??.[/quote]Despite Sutton not appearing for the first team until the 91-92 season...Our strongest league performances in general were between 1983-1993, of which Sutton only really contributed to that final season of that period. Have you forgotten about our regular qualification for Europe before Sutton even got near the first team?During that time, Deehan wasn''t a target man, neither were Drinkell, Fleck, Robins (just gets in) or Biggins. The main target man we had during that period was arguably Rosario, and he was not a great player, and most of the time we succeeded despite him playing! We had a much better standard of TEAM performance, with players like Sherwood, Townsend, Allen etc, all contributing. This was what we acheived playing PASSING football and not relying on a lump upfront to hold the ball up...[quote]We have nobody to hold the ball up and bring other in , playing the way you suggest with our current squad would result in one thing relegation. thank got Roeder is the manager not you.[/quote]I see, so Argentina have a target man holding the ball up? I''m sure Tevez does a similar job for Man Utd...Arsenal have played without a specific target man for the last 6-7 years, and despite current first choice striker Adebayor''s strength and balance, we don''t see them lumping endless long balls forward.I guess West Ham are screwed with Ashton and Bellamy then, as neither of them are big ''target men''.Spurs weren''t playing long balls over the top to Darren Bent, or relying on him to hold the ball up, and despite this obvious error by Ramos, Bent put 4 past us, yet you seem to feel that a team can''t manage to score goals without playing a big man upfront.The majority of teams DO play a target man purely because they don''t look to play short, passing, possession football, and therefore need to have a player of this mould upfront to complement their style of play.If we are looking to focus on a close passing game (again something Roeder has alluded towards), then we don''t need a target man. If anything, it would just help to encourage the players to start punting hopeful balls forward, instead of concentrating on possession and being patient for a good chance.We have the players to play a shorter passing game, Roeder seems to feel the same otherwise he wouldn''t have signed half of them and stated he wanted to play better, passing football.Still, it''s easy to mock others when your own vision is limited... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mason 47 1,379 Posted July 29, 2008 MarshallOtsemobor Kennedy Stefanovic Bertrand Bell Clingan Fotheringham Hoolahan Cureton or Loopy Argos TargetmanOtsemobor... I dont think Omozusi is as good really. Sorry. Anyway, Kennedy I dont think has come without the promise of games, and Stefanovic I think will be fairly important to us this season. Bell is there- yes I am aware hes tooootally injured, but this is an ideal one formation. Apart from that I guess the team picks itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
londoncanary 0 Posted July 29, 2008 [quote user="ncfc_chris"][quote user="Dogger Slipraid"]No way Bell over Croft[/quote]what use is a winger who has no composure? can''t cross, pass or shoot when in the final third[/quote] Totally agree!!! Croft is an absolute liability! Has failed to produce any type of form this since we signed him, and his goal scoring record for an "attacking" player is laughable! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indy_Bones 441 Posted July 29, 2008 [quote user="londoncanary"]Totally agree!!! Croft is an absoluteliability! Has failed to produce any type of form this since we signedhim, and his goal scoring record for an "attacking" player islaughable![/quote]Really,Croft scored a single league goal last season, not a great return admittedly...However...Perhapsthen you feel that players such as Emmanuel Eboue, Anderson, (0 leaguegoals last season), Paul Scholes (1 league goal last season), ShaunWright-Phillips, Aaron Lennon (2 league goals last season), Ryan Giggs,Nani, and Benayoun (3 league goals last season), were ALL alsolaughable players last season due to their poor goal scoring record???We''retalking about some of the most established or promising younger playersin the league here, and in most cases they only managed a goal or twomore than Croft did, which is particularly intruiging considering thequality of players around them compared to Croft.Croft CAN passa ball, his crossing is not great, but so what? Who on earth is heaiming for? The height of players like Curo, Martin or Lupoli??? Croftcan do a very good job if he concentrates on keeping the ball on thedeck and running at the defenders, and being fair, many wingers aren''tthe best shots in the game, if they were, chances are they''d be upfront.Givethe guy a break, as if we were actually getting him to play to hisstrengths you''d see far more fans realise the quality he does possess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites