Well Done Glenn Roeder and Staff

[YankeeCanary 0]

They are to be congratulated for what can only be regarded as a high level of astuteness at dragging us out of the mess we were in at the end of October. At that point, when we had 8 points from 13 games, I recall many of the well-respected posters on this forum believing relegation was all but certain. Indeed, many looked ahead and could not see where many points at all were going to come from in future games.

Since then, and following the unbeaten run we had, many then were critical because we did not push on from there when it appeared the opportunity was there to do so. Again, many were critical of Glenn playing some of the younger loanees when they did not appear from your accounts of some of their performances to justify it. I obviously have no right to comment on that because I do not see the games. What I will suggest, however, is that it is much easier to be a critic after the event. Glenn had to make his decisions in advance as to what to inject into the club to give us a chance to get out of trouble. Some of the regular players had to respond to that injection for whatever reason because we obviously stepped up a gear before falling back somewhat.

All in all, an admirable performance from Glenn and his staff to get the response they did. Since that disastrous start we earned 47 points from 32 games. To put some perspective to that, West Brom during the same period earned just 8 points more than us ( 55 points from 32 games ) and they are leading the division.  

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 I obviously have no right to comment on that because I do not see the games.

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[Carrowfortress 0]

Well said yankeecanary.

Glenn and the staff have sone a fantastic job getting us out of the mess that grants regime left us in.

Shame that alot of posters on here will not share your sentiments.

I for one think we have now got one of if not the best management team in the league and am looking forward to next season

 

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[quote user="Carrowfortress"]

 

Glenn and the staff have sone a fantastic job getting us out of the mess that grants regime left us in.

I for one think we have now got one of if not the best management team in the league and am looking forward to next season

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Well said Carrowfortress

[YankeeCanary 0]

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 I obviously have no right to comment on that because I do not see the games.

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Canary Nut, it obviously bothers you that I feel free to comment on the club ( not the matches ) while I am not attending games at Carrow Road, while you obviously do. Why don''t you try another angle of approach. Given that you attend matches why don''t you try to make it your objective to articulate that advantage you enjoy into more intelligent comments on this forum. Study the way I write, for example. I''ll be happy to be your mentor. 

[Crafty Canary 547]

[quote user="YankeeCanary"][quote user="Canary Nut"][quote user="YankeeCanary"]

 I obviously have no right to comment on that because I do not see the games.

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Canary Nut, it obviously bothers you that I feel free to comment on the club ( not the matches ) while I am not attending games at Carrow Road, while you obviously do. Why don''t you try another angle of approach. Given that you attend matches why don''t you try to make it your objective to articulate that advantage you enjoy into more intelligent comments on this forum. Study the way I write, for example. I''ll be happy to be your mentor. 

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Perhaps if you didn''t feel fit to make comments such as people being elitist because they dare to criticise the board (having personally witnessed the standard of football being played over a long period of time) they wouldn''t seek opportunities to have a go at you.

Your posts exude an arrogance that your non-atendance at games doesn''t merit, albeit you have every right to comment in more generalised ways on the progress of our club.

[lucky green trainers 0]

i agree that a big thankyou is in order to glen and his staff for their great fightback from the edge of oblivion.  not once, but twice, having got clear of the sinking ship - the signing of 4 young loanees rocked the lifeboat to such an extent, yet another determined effort was needed to escape the relegation whirlpool!!!lets hope next season we see a credible push for promotion - certainly, roedy and his boys seem capable if resourced properly...

[YankeeCanary 0]

[quote user="crafty canary"][quote user="YankeeCanary"][quote user="Canary Nut"][quote user="YankeeCanary"]

 I obviously have no right to comment on that because I do not see the games.

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Canary Nut, it obviously bothers you that I feel free to comment on the club ( not the matches ) while I am not attending games at Carrow Road, while you obviously do. Why don''t you try another angle of approach. Given that you attend matches why don''t you try to make it your objective to articulate that advantage you enjoy into more intelligent comments on this forum. Study the way I write, for example. I''ll be happy to be your mentor. 

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Perhaps if you didn''t feel fit to make comments such as people being elitist because they dare to criticise the board (having personally witnessed the standard of football being played over a long period of time) they wouldn''t seek opportunities to have a go at you.

Your posts exude an arrogance that your non-atendance at games doesn''t merit, albeit you have every right to comment in more generalised ways on the progress of our club.

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On the contrary, that''s exactly the area I feel qualified to comment on. People who set themselves up as experts on the shortcomings of others, who have not only demonstrated success in life but have their money on the line in a business where it''s very difficult to keep your head above water, deserve to have their views challenged as being "experts" on what''s required to run a football club.

[Crafty Canary 547]

but not by someone who never witnesses the performances your ''experts'' are holding the board to account for. After all the decision makers are the board as they appoint the manager and make the funds available or not. No-one else. Shareholders have every right to hold the directors of the business to account for their actions.

[ricky knight 0]

well done great result today guys, stayed up by the skin of our teeth, terrific job, cant wait for next season.

[Graham Humphrey 13]

I detect irony [;)]

[ricky knight 0]

no, just reality [:D]

[YankeeCanary 0]

[quote user="crafty canary"]but not by someone who never witnesses the performances your ''experts'' are holding the board to account for. After all the decision makers are the board as they appoint the manager and make the funds available or not. No-one else. Shareholders have every right to hold the directors of the business to account for their actions.[/quote]

You''re making the same mistake Crafty that a lot of others engage in.....you''re mixing different issues and allowing that to affect your logic.

Shareholders do have the right to hold the directors of a business to account. They have the right to vote their beliefs. They also have the right, if they have the means, to acquire or try to acquire a greater number of shares to increase their influence. They also have the right to go public with their opinions, either in the newspaper, on the radio or on a forum such as this. That''s one issue.

What I take issue with is the posters who, for a number of seasons, post virtually every day the SAME negative messages against the club/Board on this forum. They have the right to do this because it is a public forum, but their incessant attacks go beyond anything that is considered appropriate behaviour for a shareholder ( or supporter ) of any business, let alone a football club that they claim to love and support. I also have a history with NCFC and, when I see this extreme behaviour and, because this is a public forum, I will react to it. I fully appreciate that you consider my opinion on this matter to hold less sway than some. I''m also sure there''s more than a few that agree with you. My answer to that is, that''s tough!

[Faded Jaded Semi Plastic SOB 1,223]

I agree that surviving relegation feels great, that siad I sincerely hope us long suffering fans do not have to go through the agony of worrying if we wil go down next season. Lets also not forget that all the good work was nearly undone, we went from flirting with the play off places to a relegation dogfight in the space of 15 games...why, particularly pertinent given that Crystal Palace manged to sustain their form such that they wen from 2nd bottom to a play off place. I think the back slapping and self congratulation has to stop now, a 4-1 defeat at Hillsborough tells us that all is still not well, some will say that there was "nothing to play for" try telling that to the 4000+  loyal fans that travelled north in the hope that our season finished on a high. I personally believe that it will be tougher next season and that GR needs to start sorting out the wheat from the chaff now. I am not suggesting that we have to just spend big in the transfer market as I recognise it is going to be difficult for us to compete in that market, at a personal level I would be happy to see us secure the services of Betrand, Evans, Pearce and Gibbs again, even if it is only on season long loans.

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[quote user="Sons of Boadicea"]Iat a personal level I would be happy to see us secure the services of Betrand, Evans, Pearce and Gibbs again, even if it is only on season long loans.[/quote]

I agree with all of your post SOB but would just like to add that we hadn''t got a clue about those four players until Roeder brought them in. It seems he really does have an eye for a good players and really has got the ability to bring in players better than those we have. So if he can''t secure the services of those four I wpuld be happy for him to find four others.

 

[Trent Canary 0]

Indeed, to think how far adrift we were at one stage.

I know people will point to this recent poor run, but im sure if we had the poor run first, then the 13 match unbeaten run second peoples views would be altered about Roeder.

I for one am just happy to be in this division, its upto the board to get us out of this horrible position.

[corbs 0]

Roeder has done his Job and kept us up, and the Board have done theirs by appointing him. We all know next season is going to be important, as we all know that Roeder is no messiah, but he looks to be a decent Manager. His main task is to bring good players in, on a budget, as it is fairly clear we do not have alot of money. Therefore his football judgement is going to be crucial. Personally I think the Board will be fairly generous yet again, but obviously this will not appease the Anti-Board reactionaries. I hope to see us consolidate in mid table next year. To some this smacks of lack of ambition but as I have said before, I would really like us to have a Cup run for a change, but that''s the romantic in me. Maybe mid-table is bit optimistic, but that''s football, it brings out the hope in us. Well done to the loyalists who went up North yesterday. I feel that the Team have let us down, and it was important that we got a result for Dion. Clearly things are not right on the pitch, and the work starts now.   

[Nice and Peaceful 0]

Reflecting on a season that has seen us doomed in November, play-off possibles in March, yet ending up one game and three points safe from relegation suggests one thing to me: the difference between a bottom six team and a top six team is paper-thin. Yes the squad needs considerable rebuilding, but GR seems to know how to source, persuade and get the best from new players. All of the players that have played since he signed them have had an impact. As such, I look to the close season with interest, and next season with anticipation.

 

Having said that I''ve been optimistic for the past 3 close seasons, si what do I know......

[Smudger 0]

[quote user="Trent Canary"]

Indeed, to think how far adrift we were at one stage.

I know people will point to this recent poor run, but im sure if we had the poor run first, then the 13 match unbeaten run second peoples views would be altered about Roeder.

I for one am just happy to be in this division, its upto the board to get us out of this horrible position.

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I very much doubt it Trent...

If we had the poor run first (remembering how far we were cut adrift at the time) do you really think that we could of recovered from that?

Roeder has done a fantastic job, but he can''t work miracles for ever... the board need to dig deep and find some serious money for this guy to spend over the coming months otherwise another long hard season is in store.

[Trent Canary 0]

Well we recovered from bottom of the league with a 13 match unbeaten run, so not much of a difference in either scenario.

But yes he needs to be given the money, hes shown he can do a good job by keeping us up, now lets push on.

[lappinitup 629]

[quote user="Smudger"][quote user="Trent Canary"]

Indeed, to think how far adrift we were at one stage.

I know people will point to this recent poor run, but im sure if we had the poor run first, then the 13 match unbeaten run second peoples views would be altered about Roeder.

I for one am just happy to be in this division, its upto the board to get us out of this horrible position.

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I very much doubt it Trent...

If we had the poor run first (remembering how far we were cut adrift at the time) do you really think that we could of recovered from that?

Roeder has done a fantastic job, but he can''t work miracles for ever... the board need to dig deep and find some serious money for this guy to spend over the coming months otherwise another long hard season is in store.

[/quote]Finding serious money didn''t exactly help your hometown team (Leicester) much did it smudge ?

And the scum were in a play-off position at Christmas with £12m to spend in Jan so the extra money didn''t help them much either did it ?

Of course money is necessary but money alone is not the answer.