Why would I want to raise funds for FONCY?

[SuperWesIrishWizard 0]

To help produce the next Ryan Jarvis or Ian Henderson? or to actually help produce a few average players but to see them leave without a chance (Sinclair + Hayes). To fund one of the most unsuccessful youth systems in English foortball of the last ten years?

No thanks.

 

[Graham Humphrey 13]

Thanks for your invaluable contribution.

[newyorkcanary 14]

Then you''re just part of the problem.  Obviously, with your reasoning, things magically improve with the snap of a finger and no funding.  You are foolish, go crawl back into your cave.

 

[YankeeCanary 0]

[quote user="ryank"]

To help produce the next Ryan Jarvis or Ian Henderson? or to actually help produce a few average players but to see them leave without a chance (Sinclair + Hayes). To fund one of the most unsuccessful youth systems in English foortball of the last ten years?

No thanks.

[/quote]

I''m disappointed, with views like this, that it comes from oneone with a "yank" in their name. 

[Inch High aka Inchy.. 417]

Congratulations on winning this seasons most pointless and stupid post award.[:#]

[YankeeCanary 0]

...and how did I manage to type "oneone" out of "someone?''

[scott 0]

[quote user="ryank"]

To help produce the next Ryan Jarvis or Ian Henderson? or to actually help produce a few average players but to see them leave without a chance (Sinclair + Hayes). To fund one of the most unsuccessful youth systems in English foortball of the last ten years?

No thanks.

 

[/quote]

 

I can see the point but hopefully the club would of learned from its mistakes and has got a manager in Glen Roeder with much experience of youth Academy set ups and we might start going in the right direction, so don''t give up hope! 

[Ivana_rubyatitz 6]

[quote user="ryank"]

To help produce the next Ryan Jarvis or Ian Henderson? or to actually help produce a few average players but to see them leave without a chance (Sinclair + Hayes). To fund one of the most unsuccessful youth systems in English foortball of the last ten years?

No thanks.

 

[/quote]

Oh dear....such foresight.

[arrdee 2]

[quote user="ryank"]

To help produce the next Ryan Jarvis or Ian Henderson? or to actually help produce a few average players but to see them leave without a chance (Sinclair + Hayes). To fund one of the most unsuccessful youth systems in English foortball of the last ten years?

No thanks.

 

[/quote]

Now do you know "ryank" This has been bugging me all season , I keep asking myself why doesnt "ryank" make a selection on the Free Bet . I have discussed this for hrs with Nutty Nigel and we are both at a loss to understand why "rank" wont make a selection .

Perhaps in the future you will start to love our club again and try to help it as much as you can . Always remember you are more than welcome to come on the Raise funds for Foncy thread "rank" Cheers ...arrdee.[;)]

[norfolkchance1 0]

Incorrect, Shackell, Green, Bellamy, Russell, Cureton are all examples of players who have been part of the Norwich City youth academy over recent years. Youth development is not an exact science there are times when a club will produce several at once i.e. Middlesbrough or not many it just depends on how talent develops and the paths people take.

To create a thread denouncing something that costs nothing but yet has produced a little amount to try and improve the fortunes of the youth setup at Norwich is pretty depressing.

[lappinitup 629]

Surely a true supporter would want to support all things NCFC. To knock any initiative that''s trying to help our club (and this isn''t the only one) makes me wonder at the real agenda of these so called fans.

Supporter?   Hardly !

 

[Buncey 1]

[quote user="arrdee"][quote user="ryank"]

To help produce the next Ryan Jarvis or Ian Henderson? or to actually help produce a few average players but to see them leave without a chance (Sinclair + Hayes). To fund one of the most unsuccessful youth systems in English foortball of the last ten years?

No thanks.

 

[/quote]

Now do you know "ryank" This has been bugging me all season , I keep asking myself why doesnt "ryank" make a selection on the Free Bet . I have discussed this for hrs with Nutty Nigel and we are both at a loss to understand why "rank" wont make a selection .

Perhaps in the future you will start to love our club again and try to help it as much as you can . Always remember you are more than welcome to come on the Raise funds for Foncy thread "rank" Cheers ...arrdee.[;)]

[/quote]Ardee you love ol'' boy, you are a real gem [:)]

[SuperWesIrishWizard 0]

[quote user="norfolkchance1"]

Incorrect, Shackell, Green, Bellamy, Russell, Cureton are all examples of players who have been part of the Norwich City youth academy over recent years. Youth development is not an exact science there are times when a club will produce several at once i.e. Middlesbrough or not many it just depends on how talent develops and the paths people take.

To create a thread denouncing something that costs nothing but yet has produced a little amount to try and improve the fortunes of the youth setup at Norwich is pretty depressing.

[/quote]

I think you will find that I said "in the last ten years since Bellamy and Green". Shackell is the only player since 1998 to graduate from the YTS system into the first team, this is not short sighted of me, If you totalled up the amount spent on academy coaches, big indoor pitches, players wages, housing+feeding+accommodation YTS players, pitch maitenence at colney, you could buy five or six Jason Shackells with the amount that we spend.

All im trying to say is that if the one and a half hour rule is really that restricting (and all except Shackell that you stated were from over an hour and a half away), and that the best players we could find from East Anglia were Ryan Jarvis and Ian Henderson in that ten years, then should we really being investing that kind if money into a system that doesnt look like giving us more Keith O''neills, Darren Eadies, Chris Suttons, Ruel Fox''s, Danny Mill''s, Robert Greens.

Im just saying that there is no return on the investment, if i was to donate money to the club then i would rather support a transfer pot for the first team, other than that i would rather donate my money to the starving in africa then for the club to produce players like Ryan Jarvis and Ian Henderson and then pay them £2000 a week each for 5years  (and that is factual) when they should have released those players at 18 and could have invested the 600k that they saved into the academy themselves, instead of expecting the working classes to pay for their unsuccessful schemes themselves.

Take Portsmouth, one of the lowest investments into youth policy in all four of the professional leagues, and they are in the premiership. If you buy property to rent out and it doesnt make you any money in ten years then you withdraw your investment and look at other yeilds, investment into the first team is more likely to produce dividends, especially with the league one standard squad that we have now.

And I truly do believe that I am right.

[Graham Humphrey 13]

Classic!

[Buncey 1]

Superb! [Y]

[ca 1]

Think they said they raised over £3000 yesterday with their auction of signed shirts, pictures etc which is a great achievement. Can''t remember what he said their total raised was but think it was something like £300,000 maybe someone who was there could confirm thats right.

[we8wba 0]

what an idiot!

youth teams dont product talent after talent they go through batches, i.e you''ll find this years crop you may have 2-4players emerge squad players or first teamers, whilst the next years none may make the grade!

to moan at norwichs youth is pretty bad to be honest! think of the money generated from it! even when you consider say lewis move p''boro got you around 500k

look at other clubs in the league how many youth do you see coming through likes of

wba? sheffutd? in the last year or two

 

to moan at people trying to help raise money for youth team shows us how even big a MUG you are!

[nutty nigel 7,902]

Why was my post removed from this thread?

 

[ca 1]

My post about how much they raised on Open Day has been removed too.

[we8wba 0]

[;)]probably contained some terrorism activity as stated in the rules

[nutty nigel 7,902]

I don''t think so we8 m8. It was just a post about how I thought the Academy was funded and how it was a good idea to continue with it. I have more terrorist activity posted in my direction arthur daly. I guess there''s a cry baby[:''(] looooose aboooot thussss hoooooose!

 

[arrdee 2]

[quote user="nutty nigel"]

Why was my post removed from this thread?

 

[/quote]

And my post as well , that has now embarrassed Graham H and Fellas posts .

[YankeeCanary 0]

Your posts are being removed because you are providing deep, meaningful input. You have to resort to trivia like I do with, " ...and how did I manage to type "oneone" out of "someone?'' Now that I come to think of it, "someone" is a very strange word...."some" being more than one but then adding "some" to "one" to create a reference to one. I kind of think my "oneone" makes just as much sense. Certainly there can be no doubt that my intention is clearly to "one". Which brings me to "nobody" ( I''m on a roll now ). People are often running around, loose at the lip, saying things like "nobody is saying this" or "nobody is saying that". Well, if "no body" is saying these things then it must be coming from some higher power or an alien that does not have to provide visible form. Speaking of aliens, there was a green and yellow saucer flying over my house last night. Just about scared the whole community out of it''s wits. American households are filled with guns, so a local army was assembled in no time flat to defend ourselves, to no avail. This thing hovered forever. Finally, a divorced member of the poultry family ( a chicken ) who was having a bad night started to "Cluck...cluck....cluck, CLUCK,CLUCK,CLUCK!!!", and this green and yellow saucer took off like a bat out of hell. Speaking of bats.......

[lappinitup 629]

LOL.   [:D]

 

[Buncey 1]

[quote user="arrdee"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

Why was my post removed from this thread?

 

[/quote]

And my post as well , that has now embarrassed Graham H and Fellas posts .

[/quote]Now it looks like I''m agree-ing with "rank". I''d like to confirm my support of Ardee in these matters and to say that the above post by YC made me chuckle (that is, if the post still exists this time tommorow)

[arrdee 2]

[quote user="nutty nigel"]

I don''t think so we8 m8. It was just a post about how I thought the Academy was funded and how it was a good idea to continue with it. I have more terrorist activity posted in my direction arthur daly. I guess there''s a cry baby[:''(] looooose aboooot thussss hoooooose!

 

[/quote]

Now Mods this is not working is it ? If someone wants to play in the big boys playground and tries to take the pee out of arrdee he must accept all he gets , not become a cry baby and run to the Mods for help , there will only ever be one winner in the pee taking .arrdee.

[ca 1]

My post is there now so maybe I didn''t just see it.

[nutty nigel 7,902]

Well mine isn''t and I don''t really see why it should be removed without explaination.

 

[norfolkchance1 0]

[quote user="ryank"][quote user="norfolkchance1"]

Incorrect, Shackell, Green, Bellamy, Russell, Cureton are all examples of players who have been part of the Norwich City youth academy over recent years. Youth development is not an exact science there are times when a club will produce several at once i.e. Middlesbrough or not many it just depends on how talent develops and the paths people take.

To create a thread denouncing something that costs nothing but yet has produced a little amount to try and improve the fortunes of the youth setup at Norwich is pretty depressing.

[/quote]

I think you will find that I said "in the last ten years since Bellamy and Green". Shackell is the only player since 1998 to graduate from the YTS system into the first team, this is not short sighted of me, If you totalled up the amount spent on academy coaches, big indoor pitches, players wages, housing+feeding+accommodation YTS players, pitch maitenence at colney, you could buy five or six Jason Shackells with the amount that we spend.

All im trying to say is that if the one and a half hour rule is really that restricting (and all except Shackell that you stated were from over an hour and a half away), and that the best players we could find from East Anglia were Ryan Jarvis and Ian Henderson in that ten years, then should we really being investing that kind if money into a system that doesnt look like giving us more Keith O''neills, Darren Eadies, Chris Suttons, Ruel Fox''s, Danny Mill''s, Robert Greens.

Im just saying that there is no return on the investment, if i was to donate money to the club then i would rather support a transfer pot for the first team, other than that i would rather donate my money to the starving in africa then for the club to produce players like Ryan Jarvis and Ian Henderson and then pay them £2000 a week each for 5years  (and that is factual) when they should have released those players at 18 and could have invested the 600k that they saved into the academy themselves, instead of expecting the working classes to pay for their unsuccessful schemes themselves.

Take Portsmouth, one of the lowest investments into youth policy in all four of the professional leagues, and they are in the premiership. If you buy property to rent out and it doesnt make you any money in ten years then you withdraw your investment and look at other yeilds, investment into the first team is more likely to produce dividends, especially with the league one standard squad that we have now.

And I truly do believe that I am right.

[/quote]

The line typed in red is mentioned nowhere on this thread, but that is beside the point, I have some agreement that the 90 minute rule is restricting but the suggestion to put the funds towards transfers has little credibility. Agents get so much of transfer fees and I for one would not like to give any agents any of our winnings if at all possible. The whole point of raising money for FONCY is to try and improve the youth setup and give youngsters the encouragement to break into the Norwich first team and I believe it should stay this way.

I also see you''ve declined to comment on my view about Middlesbrough as a positive on what can be achieved with a thriving youth setup where they would like nothing else but to have 11 homegrown players from Middlesbrough and the surrounding area playing for them and which I may say they are not far away from achieving. Furthermore everyone knows about Lee Catermole crying and showing how much he cared when they lost, I''d much rather have a team in the future with several players in  this ilk.

Lastly Portsmouth have one of the best wheeler dealers in Harry Redknapp who scours the transfer market to bring in the best players it is also noted that  in the last few years they have had a lot of money to spend due to wealthy owners to get good technical foreign players in.

 

[Graham Humphrey 13]

[quote user="arrdee"][quote user="nutty nigel"]

Why was my post removed from this thread?

 

[/quote]

And my post as well , that has now embarrassed Graham H and Fellas posts .

[/quote]

Actually I would like my post removed now seeing as it has been taken out of context. Can''t believe it was left in considering it was a direct reply to your post.